Where's the Orton blame?

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He throws a pick at the end to end our season...

Lol, I actually applaud Orton. He played much better than I anticipated. What I am saying is, different QB, same result. Too many passes and not establishing a balance at the end with running the ball. Our offensive coaching is not playing to the situation of the game.
 
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I blame JJ for this mess, if he never would have hired Kiffin our D probably would not have suck so much until the end. Maybe we would have won 1 or 2 games in the stretch. JJ and his ego has to go.
 
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I won't blame him because he did what a backup is supposed to do. He got the team through the game in one piece. There's a reason why he's a backup.
 

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Orton sucks. He played fine (considering) in the position he was put in and I applaud that. But he's a backup for a reason and it's too much to ask a backup to drive the field and win the game in such a big matchup, with such stakes at hand. This team goofed too many times during the season in other ways- leading to that situation- and that's where the season was lost.


And hats off to Witten last night. He made an error, but he was giving his all to try to win that game and give Orton a dependable option. There are few pros like him.
 
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That was a risky pass in that situation. You have four downs to move the ball and he forced into tight coverage right off the bat. Not good, but nothing we haven't seen before.
 
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foofighters said:
He throws a pick at the end to end our season...

Lol, I actually applaud Orton. He played much better than I anticipated. What I am saying is, different QB, same result. Too many passes and not establishing a balance at the end with running the ball. Our offensive coaching is not playing to the situation of the game.
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I saw one media guy blaming Tony.

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Oh he deserves plenty of blame for BOTH interceptions... Two HORRIBLY thrown passes!
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Witten should have caught the first INT. That's on him.

The second one was just a bad thrown. Miles was open, but Orton made a poor throw.

I think for a backup QB he looked very good. He needed to get more air under his deep passes and some things like the knockdown by Barwin on 4th down and the timeout he took he probably would not have made if he had more playing time to knock off some of the in-game rust. But, he made some real world class throws out there as well about as good as any QB in the league. He just can't hit the deep ball and can't make those world class throws with consistency like Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady can.




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links18 said:
That was a risky pass in that situation. You have four downs to move the ball and he forced into tight coverage right off the bat. Not good, but nothing we haven't seen before.
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He ditto'd a page from Romo's Green By 4th quarter book
 
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I saw one media guy blaming Tony.

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The truth is that if Romo had thrown that INT there would be denizens of Romo supporters blaming Miles Austin. When that would not work, then they would go back to blaming Garrett and the defense. Finally it would end with 'Kyle Orton isn't going to do any better' and 'you're going to be sorry when Romo is gone.'

If anything, this game showed me that Romo is over-valued by the organization. He's better than Orton for sure, but he's not so much better that it justifies that much more money that he gets paid versus what Orton gets paid. I think for years we just saw that Romo was worlds better than Brad Johnson, Jon Kitna and Drew Bledsoe. That fooled the organization into thinking that we needed to make this past contract extension.






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Yakuza Rich said:
Witten should have caught the first INT. That's on him.

The second one was just a bad thrown. Miles was open, but Orton made a poor throw.

I think for a backup QB he looked very good. He needed to get more air under his deep passes and some things like the knockdown by Barwin on 4th down and the timeout he took he probably would not have made if he had more playing time to knock off some of the in-game rust. But, he made some real world class throws out there as well about as good as any QB in the league. He just can't hit the deep ball and can't make those world class throws with consistency like Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady can.




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I cannot blame a WR/TE for a ball thrown behind him when he's moving in game speed... Sorry.
 
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Yakuza Rich said:
The truth is that if Romo had thrown that INT there would be denizens of Romo supporters blaming Miles Austin.
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Just like people blaming the first INT on Witten. There is no difference between the two picks, both were passes thrown behind the receiver, much like the Romo GB pick to Austin. Same thing.

If anything, this game showed me that Romo is over-valued by the organization.
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This is complete bunk. You are making this grand statement based on one game at home against the 30th ranked defense.

Remember the TD to Dez against Washington last week? Orton gets his clock cleaned on that play and we don't score. There are about a dozen other plays this season Romo makes with his feet and pocket presence that Orton couldn't do in his dreams.

Orton had a clean pocket all game last night. Show me what he can do when that is breaking down like it has been for most of Romo's career and we can accurately compare the two.
 
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Probably not en vogue, but I will credit the Philly defense. They did what the Dallas Defense failed to do a lot this season, which is protect a lead in the 4th quarter.
 
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I know the OP's orginal comments were not really serious, but I'd have a hard time blaming Orton.

For him, that was a pretty good game.
He kept the chains moving and other than missing 2-3 long balls and throwing a couple of picks, the man played a solid game. At least he was healthy and had a rested arm. I think even before the final back issues, Romo was hrting much of the second half of this season. Especially toward the end, his long balls were expecially jag-like.

fwiw
Kyle Orton QB rating last night = 85.2
Kyle Orton career QB rating = 79.9

In the end, we once again threw it too much, imo.
 
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