Where's this going?

[CCBoy]

Slowly but surely, Mike Zimmer's defense has made strides as his players get more comfortable in the scheme. It was evident last week with five sacks and two turnovers, but there's still work to be done to meet Zimmer's expectations.

"He keeps his players motivated and expects his players to come in wanting to learn more and wanting to do better," Overshown said. I think when you've got that as a coach and as a leader you never can get too far down, you never can feel like you can't get back up from what y'all just faced."

Although there have been a lot of down points for the Cowboys defense this year, Overshown prides himself on giving his all every snap for veteran players like Eric Kendricks, who are nearing the tail-end of their careers, hoping that his effort can carry long-term effects for the defense's production and his teammates' appreciation.

https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/demarvion-overshown-is-completely-healthy-and-wreaking-havoc


The past three weeks the element for leadership and motivation was missing from the coaching staff. Well, that element showed up again on the defensive side.

Zimmer is the man. Linebackers are the fiber that connects a defense, from crashing in on the linebacker to the secondary behind. This group of 'backers' are battle proven now. That and they are good.

Micah Parsons, DeMarvion Overton, and Eric Kendricks are a strong and talented trio. Damone Clark, and Marist Liufau provide a good depth.

I'm watching this group provide speed and intensity.

The other two groups will be growing strongly.

 

[visionary]

Sign Zimmer for 5 more years

 

[big dog cowboy]

 

[gtb1943]

The D line is a joke
Kendricks is old
our Safeties are average AT BEST
so this D is not going to be much no matter how many homers claim it will

 

[KingCorcoran]

Slowly but surely, Mike Zimmer's defense has made strides as his players get more comfortable in the scheme. It was evident last week with five sacks and two turnovers, but there's still work to be done to meet Zimmer's expectations.

"He keeps his players motivated and expects his players to come in wanting to learn more and wanting to do better," Overshown said. I think when you've got that as a coach and as a leader you never can get too far down, you never can feel like you can't get back up from what y'all just faced."

Although there have been a lot of down points for the Cowboys defense this year, Overshown prides himself on giving his all every snap for veteran players like Eric Kendricks, who are nearing the tail-end of their careers, hoping that his effort can carry long-term effects for the defense's production and his teammates' appreciation.

https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/demarvion-overshown-is-completely-healthy-and-wreaking-havoc


The past three weeks the element for leadership and motivation was missing from the coaching staff. Well, that element showed up again on the defensive side.

Zimmer is the man. Linebackers are the fiber that connects a defense, from crashing in on the linebacker to the secondary behind. This group of 'backers' are battle proven now. That and they are good.

Micah Parsons, DeMarvion Overton, and Eric Kendricks are a strong and talented trio. Damone Clark, and Marist Liufau provide a good depth.

I'm watching this group provide speed and intensity.

The other two groups will be growing strongly.

What, exactly, is Zimmer’s “scheme”? What are his expectations? Fans spew words like scheme and have no idea what they’re talking about. Zimmer’s ideas of defense can probably be found etched on cave walls by primitive peoples. He’s as gone as McCarthy when this season is mercifully over. Zimmer is not “the man”. Kendricks is not talented and will not be in the NFL next season. I suggest a more realistic perception for anyone intending to remain a fan. Ask Washington fans. It’s a long trek and idiotic nonsense about “speed and intensity” won’t make anything happen any faster.

 

[CCBoy]

The D line is a joke
Kendricks is old
our Safeties are average AT BEST
so this D is not going to be much no matter how many homers claim it will

This is when active personal things get forging and not squeeling like stuck hogs. I like the Defensive Coordinator even if you have lost control of self control.

This has now become a good group of linebackers for real. When healthy, the team will have 3 strong corners shortly as well as the best pair of defensive ends available.

Forged In fire, not sucking on a fire...

My football started out in 1957, in Bishop, Texas. Ronnie Bull rushed for 2,451 yards in 12 games and led the Nation in scoring at 225 points. He went onto to Baylor for All American for 1960 and 1961.

I started up for the 8th grade football team in Bishop, and we were unscored upon that whole season, in 1964. I was a defensive end and called plays for the offense as a tight end. My family moved onto Kingsville and I played 3 years in High School and was All District at linebacker. Played from 1966-1968. This is where I started as a player.

Ronnie was Rookie of the year and was halfback in 1963, until Gayle Sayers was drafted in 1965. Pat Summerall said he looked the part of his bull name. Ronnie then became the Bear's fullback. He helped the Bears win the team title.

Sid Blanks was the first black player to play for the Lone Star Conference for Gil Steinke at A & I University at Kingsville. In 1964 he became the first draft pick for the then Houston Oilers.

Quarterback Randy Johnson was drafted from A&I in 1966, with 1967 Eugene Upshaw, Randy led the Giants to a Championship game and Eugene went to the Hall of Fame in Oakland and was President of the Union Accociation.

Myself, I played a year at the Air Force Academy 1969, and then a year in 1970 at A&I. I hurt my leg that next season and was not able to then play. I was a linebacker/defensive end. I played with the following players.

From A&I, Dwight Harrison, Eldridge Small, and Levi Johnson were secondary drafted players from 1971 to 1973. Also tight end David Hill. All were Pro Bowl during their carreers. They were joined by 1st round drafted DE Ernest Price and 1975 Houston drafted running back Don Hardemon.

QB Karl Douglas was drafted in the 3rd round by the Baltimore Colts in 1971. The year that Johnny Unitas and Earl Morrill left.

The Bishop and Kingsville area were the center of a lot of football development for the NFL under Gil Steinke and then, Texas A&I.

It was a hot bed then...wake up now. Not all were prima donas...on site.

 

[Rayman70]

Zimmer with mouth agape, MM with mouth agape, look lost. Getting blown off the line of scrimmage by 5 yards all the time in run defense doesn't make me excited about the team or Zimmer.

 

[CCBoy]

Ever seen someone forged in fire, not fall from grace. You and your buddy run along now. The starting talent is there were they started out, except the quarterback.

 

[CCBoy]

Zimmer with mouth agape, MM with mouth agape, look lost. Getting blown off the line of scrimmage by 5 yards all the time in run defense doesn't make me excited about the team or Zimmer.

He is still a competent coach of linebackers. That holds a defense together. They are there.

 

[Tractor1]

This is when active personal things get forging and not squeeling like stuck hogs. I like the Defensive Coordinator even if you have lost control of self control.

This has now become a good group of linebackers for real. When healthy, the team will have 3 strong corners shortly as well as the best pair of defensive ends available.

Forged In fire, not sucking on a fire...

My football started out in 1957, in Bishop, Texas. Ronnie Bull rushed for 2,451 yards in 12 games and led the Nation in scoring at 225 points. He went onto to Baylor for All American for 1960 and 1961.

I started up for the 8th grade football team in Bishop, and we were unscored upon that whole season, in 1964. I was a defensive end and called plays for the offense as a tight end. My family moved onto Kingsville and I played 3 years in High School and was All District at linebacker. Played from 1966-1968. This is where I started as a player.

Ronnie was Rookie of the year and was halfback in 1963, until Gayle Sayers was drafted in 1965. Pat Summerall said he looked the part of his bull name. Ronnie then became the Bear's fullback. He helped the Bears win the team title.

Sid Blanks was the first black player to play for the Lone Star Conference for Gil Steinke at A & I University at Kingsville. In 1964 he became the first draft pick for the then Houston Oilers.

Quarterback Randy Johnson was drafted from A&I in 1966, with 1967 Eugene Upshaw, Randy led the Giants to a Championship game and Eugene went to the Hall of Fame in Oakland and was President of the Union Accociation.

Myself, I played a year at the Air Force Academy 1969, and then a year in 1970 at A&I. I hurt my leg that next season and was not able to then play. I was a linebacker/defensive end. I played with the following players.

From A&I, Dwight Harrison, Eldridge Small, and Levi Johnson were secondary drafted players from 1971 to 1973. Also tight end David Hill. All were Pro Bowl during their carreers. They were joined by 1st round drafted DE Ernest Price and 1975 Houston drafted running back Don Hardemon.

QB Karl Douglas was drafted in the 3rd round by the Baltimore Colts in 1971. The year that Johnny Unitas and Earl Morrill left.

The Bishop and Kingsville area were the center of a lot of football development for the NFL under Gil Steinke and then, Texas A&I.

It was a hot bed then...wake up now. Not all were prima donas...on site.

My sister went to A&I in 70 and 71. I was privileged to watch Dwight Harrison. The Javalinas had some explosive teams.

 

[CCBoy]

Sign Zimmer for 5 more years

You want a smiley face...you clown acts go to a circus. The linebackers are already a difference maker.

 

[CCBoy]

What, exactly, is Zimmer’s “scheme”? What are his expectations? Fans spew words like scheme and have no idea what they’re talking about. Zimmer’s ideas of defense can probably be found etched on cave walls by primitive peoples. He’s as gone as McCarthy when this season is mercifully over. Zimmer is not “the man”. Kendricks is not talented and will not be in the NFL next season. I suggest a more realistic perception for anyone intending to remain a fan. Ask Washington fans. It’s a long trek and idiotic nonsense about “speed and intensity” won’t make anything happen any faster.

You are stuck on complaining and doubt. I started my experience and you were instead just insultve. So be it with your driving scared through the season,

My opening comment was about the linebackers and what is affecting that group. No more than you are contributing here and name calling, figure it out yourself.

Zimmer did show leadership through this past game and you saw nothing and understand even less about a growing section,

The linebackers improved, did better at tackling, and added speed to formations along with pressure on the quarterback.

Reread the opening quote and pay attention it showed plenty of linebacker end results and development. Sacks definitely mean something and always do. Two linebackers had four sacks for Dallas. That took the defensive side to present and develop up.

Give respect where it is actually earned.

You might also have enough insight beyond crying and label shuffling to see good work also.

If there were an offense right now, things might improve more on the defensive side.

Your crying routine is so name calling in nature, one might also notice that one of the two top defensive ends were not even there yet with the sacks. That and one strong cornerback isn't quite back yet.

You now EXPLAIN WHY the linebackers are all bad. the topic that I presented.

 

[CCBoy]

You are stuck on complaining and doubt. I started my experience and you were instead just insultve. So be it with your driving scared through the season,

My opening comment was about the linebackers and what is affecting that group. No more than you are contributing here and name calling, figure it out yourself.

Zimmer did show leadership through this past game and you saw nothing and understand even less about a growing section,

The linebackers improved, did better at tackling, and added speed to formations along with pressure on the quarterback.

Reread the opening quote and pay attention it showed plenty of linebacker end results and development. Sacks definitely mean something and always do. Two linebackers had four sacks for Dallas. That took the defensive side to present and develop up.

Give respect where it is actually earned.

You might also have enough insight beyond crying and label shuffling to see good work also.

If there were an offense right now, things might improve more on the defensive side.

Your crying routine is so name calling in nature, one might also notice that one of the two top defensive ends were not even there yet with the sacks. That and one strong cornerback isn't quite back yet.

You now EXPLAIN WHY the linebackers are all bad. the topic that I presented.

Even here, Rush can have a turn-around game. He still has some talent and there is another young pair of quarterbacks. They do know about offense.

Or that they copped five takeaways, or that they held the Cowboys' two quarterbacks to all of 66 yards passing. Nah, too reasonable.

What does this have to do with a linebacker:

no care given to each of three successive plays from a first-and-goal at the Eagles' 6 that the Cowboys missed a block, disrupting a potential touchdown...and a window.

 

[CCBoy]

Does this make more sense...better get to know names like Asim Richards, T.J. Bass, Israel Mukuamu, Josh Butler, and don't be surprised if a No. 81 walks out onto the field. That's recently acquired receiver Jonathan Mingo, who McCarthy says, "Should be available this week?" But on the offensive side.

https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/spagnola-what-a-bizarre-week-this-has-been

 

[CCBoy]

Nick: Yeah, I definitely think they have the right kind of players for the overall roster. But Mike Zimmer has never been able to utilize that fully. If you've got a pair of good cover corners, there's a lot you can do. This team has started a rookie at cornerback from Week 1. I still think a healthy combination of DaRon Bland and Trevon Diggs would've changed things from the jump, especially with a steady pass rush. So it's really hard for me to say Mike Zimmer doesn't have the right players for his scheme when he's literally lost four defensive ends - two of which are Pro Bowlers - and an All-Pro cornerback at the same time. I get it, injuries are part of the game and the Lions and Dan Campbell have dealt with that as well. But I don't think we've really gotten to see the full body of work with this defense. Maybe we will at some point this year but time is running out, considering some of the key players missing are still out for a little bit.

Just give me one game this year with D-Law, Parsons, Kendricks, Overshown, Bland and Diggs. Give me those six guys together and I'd like to think we'd see a pretty good performance.


Patrik: I've always subscribed to the mantra of players > scheme, and I'll proudly die on that hill. When you flip it the other way, what you get is a Taco Charlton > TJ Watt equation and we all know how that ended. Teams, in my opinion, should never make decisions based solely on scheme, which is to say if push comes to shove, make the scheme fit the players and never, ever, try to make the players fit the scheme. Be open to revamping the entire scheme if necessary, even if it's early in a season when things clearly begin going wrong, because that's better than simply riding a train destined for a cliff. This isn't specific to Mike Zimmer's scheme in Dallas...

https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/mailbag-right-players-for-defensive-scheme

 

[CCBoy]

Now you 'fraidy' cats, this is a linebacker:

DeMarvion Overshown claims Cowboys, not Texans, run the state - Randy Gurzi, Sports Illustrated​

The former third-round pick put out some bulletin board material.

Heading into Week 11, the 3-6 Dallas Cowboys are set to host the 6-4 Houston Texans on Monday Night Football.
Houston is favored in this one, which is fair considering the records. Throw in the absence of Dak Prescott, and it’s even more understandable that the home team isn’t expected to win.
That’s not the way DeMarvion Overshown sees it though. The second-year linebacker said the Cowboys are still the “big brother” and run the state of Texas. He admits Houston is playing well but knows anything can happen on the field, especially with the right mind set.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...-rush-micah-parsons-injury-report-troy-aikman

 

[b0xZZ]

I haven't see one thing that gives me hope on defense and I don't even think the players play that hard for him.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Yep, unfortunately, we need to get worse before it hits Jerry that he needs to stand down. The three years of 12-5 were Fool's Gold that Jerry bought by restructuring heavily (knowing that he'd be resigning Dak, hopefully to a career ending contract).

This is low, on: Ownership, coaching, CAP and talent (based around two poor drafts). Getting another Yes Man HC and trying to get to 9-8 and One And Done in the play-offs just to appease Jerry's bank balance and a lesser kick of having a contender (well for a week).

The unpalatable truth is we'll have to get worse.....

 

[CyberB0b]

This is one of the worst defenses in the league. Keep fighting the good fight.

 

[CCBoy]

I haven't see one thing that gives me hope on defense and I don't even think the players play that hard for him.

You keep on waiting on that crying booth to show up...or have your eyes checked by an optomotrist.