Which Team Defense impressed you the most this year out of these 3?

[blueblood70]

Sadly Denver is done with Nix. This is a cruel game. Kids played his heart out and to get injured like that is so sad

Or he can go on a Nick Foles run,

if they can establish a run game blocking the chances and play great defense quarterbacks have an easy time with it I mean look at Sam Darnold That dude just needed to show up They could have played Wildcat and had no quarterback last night and won, that defense is like Legion of Boom2 ,the trenches are blocking like crazy, they have a strong run game, great coaching staff, they don't need a great quarterback..

we've already seen this in the past the Trent Dilfers the Nick Foles the Brad Johnson's so don't say they're out just because Nicks is out hell and I know it's puffing but even Sean Payton said he believes there isn't a that big a drop off that he strongly believes Stidham can keep this going..

I believe Denver is got a deep team like that I know I mentioned Seattle didn't need to but I'm just saying the quarterback isn't always the key as long as they don't make the big mistake those bus drivers they've been known to win a Super Bowl we've seen it we sing Nick Foles get on a run when they lost their starter...

What is the difference between teams we've seen built like say in Dallas who have been strong in some areas but have always had a weakness some of these teams don't look like they have a weakness They're built to cover up an injury like that he may be a little bit of a drop off but Bo being missing does not end their chances...

 

[Pass2Run]

No Arizona games with Gannon?

Gannon would be a silly hire.

So, if course, Jerry gets it done.

 

[blueblood70]

I would say Denver but they have the horses. Whoever built that roster deserves a lot of credit. If Leonard was part of that then kudos to him.

But I think Minnesota did mmore with less. They are nowhere near as good as Denver on defense, but they were pretty good.

The question is, given the Cowboys roster on defense, can anyone really do much? They need a serious infusion of talent with the exception of DT where they are loaded right now - assuming Jerry keeps everyone. To me the defense is a multi-year project. It would be best to hire a really good talent evaluator.

 

[kskboys]

I really believe 1 more major move is coming

Since we need like 5, won't matter.

 

[kskboys]

Dc’s always have had power in picking players in the draft with the cowboys, problem is they give them too much control and not trust their scouts more

Yeah, in the 7th round.

 

[Cowboyny]

Yeah, in the 7th round.

Really, Tristen hill? Taco over Watt?

 

[ConstantReboot]

Dc’s always have had power in picking players in the draft with the cowboys, problem is they give them too much control and not trust their scouts more

They do. However, sometimes Jerry would override them, or he simply doesn’t know enough about football to care.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Really, Tristen hill? Taco over Watt?

Those were Marinelli picks. Guess who picked Marinelli as DC?

 

[Cowboyny]

They do. However, sometimes Jerry would override them, or he simply doesn’t know enough about football to care.

I disagree, gives them a heavy stick in the draft room over his scouts. Scouts loved Watt but Marinelli said he couldn’t play with his hand in the dirt and chose taco over him. Wouldn’t take that by that the Vikings drafted cause he didn’t fit his fefense

 

[Cowboyny]

Those were Marinelli picks. Guess who picked Marinelli as DC?

Quinn wanted Both Mazi and Sam Williams

 

[ConstantReboot]

Quinn wanted Both Mazi and Sam Williams

I don't think he wanted Mazi. I think he was looking for someone who fit the role he wanted, like a Mazi. The same applies to Sam Williams.

It's up to the front office to identify and acquire players who truly fit that role.

Both picks felt like reaches and likely could have been made in later rounds. This is what happens when there is a lack of clarity and discipline in evaluating defensive talent, which falls under the responsibility of the front office.

 

[deerhunter11]

Can't go wrong with Leonhard. After watching more Denver games lately, I like what I see.

Yes Sir, Leonhard is my favorite as well. What can Leonhard do with this defensive tackle group of Q, Clark, and Osa, and a new and improved front 7. With his 3-4 and 4-3 background, I look for Dallas to get some much-needed talent built around this group and to be much improved under Jim Leonhard.

 

[deerhunter11]

While he might be top of their list but it are we the top of his list you always have to have multiple choices just in case they can't put all their eggs in the JIML basket...

Good point, I want Jim Leonhard, mainly because the way he can disguise the blitz and his 3-4 and 4-3 scheme knowledge, the guy is a winner for sure. Both Parker and Jones come from good coaching trees, Fangio and Flores, so things look promising to improve the defensive coordinator position. I want who ever Dallas hires to be able to connect with the scouts and McClay and Schottenheimer and help in the acquisition of the right kind of players for the new system. Also, the new defensive coordinator needs to put his own staff together, I hope coaches are not forced on the new hire.

 

[Cowboyny]

I don't think he wanted Mazi. I think he was looking for someone who fit the role he wanted, like a Mazi. The same applies to Sam Williams.

It's up to the front office to identify and acquire players who truly fit that role.

Both picks felt like reaches and likely could have been made in later rounds. This is what happens when there is a lack of clarity and discipline in evaluating defensive talent, which falls under the responsibility of the front office.

No, he was pushing hard for them to take Mazi

 

[blueblood70]

Good point, I want Jim Leonhard, mainly because the way he can disguise the blitz and his 3-4 and 4-3 scheme knowledge, the guy is a winner for sure. Both Parker and Jones come from good coaching trees, Fangio and Flores, so things look promising to improve the defensive coordinator position. I want who ever Dallas hires to be able to connect with the scouts and McClay and Schottenheimer and help in the acquisition of the right kind of players for the new system. Also, the new defensive coordinator needs to put his own staff together, I hope coaches are not forced on the new hire.

That's ironic you say that and and well I agree there are other franchises that's not owned by the Jerry Jones family that actually keeps pieces of their old staff and rumor has it that Kevin Stefanski is going over to Atlanta as a new head coach but keeping the entire defensive coaching staff and the DC isn't that something so I bet if this was in Cowboy's land they 'd say he was being forced on him and that it was about money and they didn't want to fire him and eat the contract and blah blah blah it it's kind of odd that when the Cowboys do it it's because it's old Jerry Jones being cheap and set in his ways when other teams do it it's just business...

 

[blueblood70]

No, he was pushing hard for them to take Mazi

Yeah I know people don't wanna agree and not that I wanna stick up for the Joneses I try not to do that They do listen to the coaching staff the scouts and Will Mcclay a lot they don't know most of these names these names are being brought to them and yes they have the final say but when they're trusting the people they hire they're delegating these responsibilities to them then they're asking for players that's just why we also know Matt Eberflus influence the front office to get him Murray Sanborn and move up and draft James and yet they gonna blame Jerry for all of it but last I checked you have to trust your staff to bring solid information to you and they say hey this guy's fit this defense go get him and then why would he not go get him wouldn't that be impeding more by refusing to give them guys they want?

We get it jerry Jones the Jones family ultimately has the final say and yes they should be held responsible but also just like we're on that other thread about Will Mcclay at some point they might need to change out him and the whole scouting department because they're the ones that are also been around for almost 25 years under Jerry in some capacity moving up the board he leans on them for proper advice..

 

[Cowboyny]

Yeah I know people don't wanna agree and not that I wanna stick up for the Joneses I try not to do that They do listen to the coaching staff the scouts and Will Mcclay a lot they don't know most of these names these names are being brought to them and yes they have the final say but when they're trusting the people they hire they're delegating these responsibilities to them then they're asking for players that's just why we also know Matt Eberflus influence the front office to get him Murray Sanborn and move up and draft James and yet they gonna blame Jerry for all of it but last I checked you have to trust your staff to bring solid information to you and they say hey this guy's fit this defense go get him and then why would he not go get him wouldn't that be impeding more by refusing to give them guys they want?

We get it jerry Jones the Jones family ultimately has the final say and yes they should be held responsible but also just like we're on that other thread about Will Mcclay at some point they might need to change out him and the whole scouting department because they're the ones that are also been around for almost 25 years under Jerry in some capacity moving up the board he leans on them for proper advice..

They need to tighten up their decision makers to McClay/HC with Jerry/Stephen as the tie breakers. Let the coaches coach and pick their players

 

[blueblood70]

They need to tighten up their decision makers to McClay/HC with Jerry/Stephen as the tie breakers. Let the coaches coach and pick their players

I'm almost pretty sure that's what we're discussing here I think that is the way they do it We have no proof or anything this is just hyperbole but sometimes the coaches make mistakes we all know and people can try to dismiss it but Mike Mccarthy wanted to call plays he did not want Kellen more and yet Kellen Moore was Jerry's guy and he was a better coordinator as far as an offensive mind also Mike Nolan that was Mike Mccarthy's choice dan Quinn was Jerry's choice..

so sometimes Jerry and Stephen make better decisions than the coaches that also comes to players as well...

who knows how that process works up there,

but they're just trying to give these coaches what they want to an extent I'm sure every coach would want all the top free agents and the best strap picks but you can't always have that..

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

That is my problem, As much as I want Denver to lose. I think it is the best chance for a team to knock off the Patriots, since they would have HFA.

Unless Houston can go into NE and beat them.

How do you feel about it now that Nix is out?

 

[blueblood70]

They need to tighten up their decision makers to McClay/HC with Jerry/Stephen as the tie breakers. Let the coaches coach and pick their players

I think my point is though at some point just like teams let go of good coaches lately Mike Tomlin Sean McDermott and Harbaugh all very good coaches, but they wore thin waiting for championship so they fired really good coaches well at some point Jerry needs to get rid of his advisers that are below him..

we know Will Mcclay's been around there for about 20 to 25 years in some capacity, he's moved his way up ,but he's Jerry's confidant his scouting department are the ones making the most influence on what Jerry's doing,

i'm pretty confident in that and as good as Will Mcclay might be we know the Jones family isn't going anyway.

So, what change can you make to change what's been going on and that would be the advisors that would be Will Mcclay in his scouting department needs to go if you want to see some change that's where it needs to be.

It's not like I have a hate for Will Mcclay and wanna see him go but we all know that Jones family is not selling so if you wanna make the biggest change that would be who's whispering in his ear the most that would be Will Mcclay and those scouts in my opinion he is the acting GM I know this he may not do all the GM duties but Jerry just has the title and the mouthpiece but Will Mcclay is probably the closest thing we have to A standard GM..

Well, that's the only place I can see that would make the quickest and easiest change and I don't know why Jerry hasn't considered, it he's too close and too loyal to his people.

I wonder if he looks around now and seeing teams willing to get rid of a guy like I mentioned above head coaches like that are winning and yet they're fired.. Maybe this gives Jerry the idea that maybe he needs to make some changes as well like in his front office structure not give up the GM title we all know that's not happening but actually get rid of Will Mcclay his counting department and get whatever title you want to give him but has the capacity as A GM.

They can make up whatever day they want for the title but I think that's what's been going on and that's just my opinion I know it doesn't have any weight.