Which Team Defense impressed you the most this year out of these 3?

How do you feel about it now that Nix is out?
Hoping Denver can pull an upset. In Denver, and their defense is good. Maybe looks good, but has not faced a tough defense. Until Houston. I think if Stroud did not have such a horrible game, they could have won.

How good can Payton be to put together a good plan for his offense. Even though NE defense is also pretty good.

Basically though it seems as if NE has been handed another trip to the SB.
 
Denver (Leonhard)
Minnesota (D. Jones)
Philly (Parker)

These 3, along with Gannon appear to be on their short-list of DC candidates. Something of note, Jones was their first zoom interview and is going to be their 1st in person interview, he might be the leader of the pack.

Leonhard-comes from that Vance/Rex Ryan tree (3-4)
D. Jones-Zimmer/Flores (4-3)
Parker-Fangio (3-4)

They are all considered rising stars in coaching circles and would be excellent hires.
Parker for sure hands down
 
That's ironic you say that and and well I agree there are other franchises that's not owned by the Jerry Jones family that actually keeps pieces of their old staff and rumor has it that Kevin Stefanski is going over to Atlanta as a new head coach but keeping the entire defensive coaching staff and the DC isn't that something so I bet if this was in Cowboy's land they 'd say he was being forced on him and that it was about money and they didn't want to fire him and eat the contract and blah blah blah it it's kind of odd that when the Cowboys do it it's because it's old Jerry Jones being cheap and set in his ways when other teams do it it's just business...
Kevin Stefanski may have believed in the defense that was in place in Atlanta, I have no Idea about that situation. Ol Jerry should have let Brian Schottenheimer pick his entire coaching staff, but what Ol Jerry did was hire Eberflus before he hired Schottenheimer. I don't think this ever works because Schottenheimer may have had a much better coach in mind to run his defense last season. Schottenheimer has been coaching in this league for a long time, and he knows a lot of coaches and their philosophies. I just think hiring the defensive coordinator, before you hire your head coach is like putting your cart in front of your horse. I don't have a thing personal against Ol Jerry, he is a good owner, but he is a terrible GM. I think Ol Jerry should have hired a great football mind to run his number one in the world sports franchise, because it is evident he is not GM material period. I wish Ol Jerry would have just stayed in the oil business, a man has got to know his limitations.
 
Kevin Stefanski may have believed in the defense that was in place in Atlanta, I have no Idea about that situation. Ol Jerry should have let Brian Schottenheimer pick his entire coaching staff, but what Ol Jerry did was hire Eberflus before he hired Schottenheimer. I don't think this ever works because Schottenheimer may have had a much better coach in mind to run his defense last season. Schottenheimer has been coaching in this league for a long time, and he knows a lot of coaches and their philosophies. I just think hiring the defensive coordinator, before you hire your head coach is like putting your cart in front of your horse. I don't have a thing personal against Ol Jerry, he is a good owner, but he is a terrible GM. I think Ol Jerry should have hired a great football mind to run his number one in the world sports franchise, because it is evident he is not GM material period. I wish Ol Jerry would have just stayed in the oil business, a man has got to know his limitations.
Exactly,

see that's the point you don't really know what goes on here as well somebody said Mike Mccarthy didn't want Kellen moore, but other people said he called Kellen Moore to keep him here, because he had a job opening in college, I think it was a head coaching job he asked him to turn it down, and come back,

So what do you believe? I bet you'll believe whatever you think fits your narrative without knowing the truth you're choosing the fact that Jerry forces these coaches onto his HC, And I'm saying I have enough information to say that's not always true.

Same thing,

We don't know what went on behind the scenes just because Matt Eberfles was Jerry's choice, that second interview that he had with Schottenheimer,

I guarantee this subject came up and he asked him how he felt about Matt Eberfluus and that he probably gave him a strong opinion, i'm talking about Jerry, that he would prefer Matt to be the DC here, but I guarantee that somewhere along the line Schottenheimer did at least give a head nod to the fact that he would be OK with it, all of us not knowing how bad it really was going to be even if you didn't like the guy at the hiring day.. At this point as much as I heard him trying to make excuses for Matt and even there at the end giving him a vote of confidence that they could get it straight with Matt it was more of a roster issue I think that he may not have been Brian's choice, but I guarantee he said he was OK with it to Jerry, because if he'd have really fought it, maybe Matt would have not been here and maybe that's the redo we're about to get,

we'll get Brian's true choice..


Just trying to wake you all up you all don't know anything even here with all the information we have, you are not sitting in on meetings, phone calls ,you're not reading emails are you??

I mean you guys have like a spyware on Jerrys computer, because we don't know what's going on,

but I'm telling you this goes on at other places but that's what you're going to do you're going to explain it away to make the Jones family look different and yet there we are A new head coach is being hired and he's going to keep the entire defensive staff

Was it his choice or was it forced on him??

we'll never know will we we do not know things just because the Internet tells us lots of things,

I realize it's more real time than it used to be it's more open than it used to be but there are things we do not know because we are not living inside those meeting rooms on those phone calls etcetera.

No one truly knows what went on here or in Atlanta or anywhere else,

unless they allow us to know these things...
 
Kevin Stefanski may have believed in the defense that was in place in Atlanta, I have no Idea about that situation. Ol Jerry should have let Brian Schottenheimer pick his entire coaching staff, but what Ol Jerry did was hire Eberflus before he hired Schottenheimer. I don't think this ever works because Schottenheimer may have had a much better coach in mind to run his defense last season. Schottenheimer has been coaching in this league for a long time, and he knows a lot of coaches and their philosophies. I just think hiring the defensive coordinator, before you hire your head coach is like putting your cart in front of your horse. I don't have a thing personal against Ol Jerry, he is a good owner, but he is a terrible GM. I think Ol Jerry should have hired a great football mind to run his number one in the world sports franchise, because it is evident he is not GM material period. I wish Ol Jerry would have just stayed in the oil business, a man has got to know his limitations.
First of all let me explain what retreads are that everybody hates around here I think Stafanski Coming from a losing organization and being hired that quickly was stupid It makes me think that Atlanta is just as bad as Dallas and they hired him and told him they wanted to keep the old defensive staff and he agreed to it but why they make a decision so fast why is the Titans interviewing Jason Garrett mike Mccarthy mike Mccarthy is going to get a interview with Pittsburgh and then they turn around and the Titans hire another retread who was a loser and yet these other teams are firing really successful head coaches and replacing them with worse ones I mean the Titans why did they let go of Vrabel.??!!

I don't think there is a perfect blueprint here it's very strange the things have been going on and somehow the Jones get all this flak but I'm telling you the rest of the league got problems look at the Giants last three head coaches None of them I would have hired for the Cowboys or been on board with but now they're being pat on the back for doing the right thing that the Cowboys never do seriously that that they hired Harbaugh but their last three choices were horrible how is that any different than the Jones family mike Mccarthy has the same resume as Harbaugh and we hired him I think this is a league wide issue there is no blueprint or guarantees and they're just doing the best they can to find something that fits their team.

Nobody has powers to see the future That is why all these things have to just play themselves out for us to truly judge what's going on and that will include whoever our DC choice happens to be....
 
All 3 were very good but none of these guys were the DC and dont have any nfl experience at DC so I dont know how much that'll translate at all.
 
Denver probably dominated the Cowboys the most out of the 3.

Followed by the Vikings.

Someone already mentioned the fact that Philly is a division opponent and the familiarity factor but Parker would still be an excellent choice.

They are pretty close when weighing all the factors I guess.

I'll flip a coin and go with Leonhard.
 
Exactly,

see that's the point you don't really know what goes on here as well somebody said Mike Mccarthy didn't want Kellen moore, but other people said he called Kellen Moore to keep him here, because he had a job opening in college, I think it was a head coaching job he asked him to turn it down, and come back,

So what do you believe? I bet you'll believe whatever you think fits your narrative without knowing the truth you're choosing the fact that Jerry forces these coaches onto his HC, And I'm saying I have enough information to say that's not always true.

Same thing,

We don't know what went on behind the scenes just because Matt Eberfles was Jerry's choice, that second interview that he had with Schottenheimer,

I guarantee this subject came up and he asked him how he felt about Matt Eberfluus and that he probably gave him a strong opinion, i'm talking about Jerry, that he would prefer Matt to be the DC here, but I guarantee that somewhere along the line Schottenheimer did at least give a head nod to the fact that he would be OK with it, all of us not knowing how bad it really was going to be even if you didn't like the guy at the hiring day.. At this point as much as I heard him trying to make excuses for Matt and even there at the end giving him a vote of confidence that they could get it straight with Matt it was more of a roster issue I think that he may not have been Brian's choice, but I guarantee he said he was OK with it to Jerry, because if he'd have really fought it, maybe Matt would have not been here and maybe that's the redo we're about to get,

we'll get Brian's true choice..


Just trying to wake you all up you all don't know anything even here with all the information we have, you are not sitting in on meetings, phone calls ,you're not reading emails are you??

I mean you guys have like a spyware on Jerrys computer, because we don't know what's going on,

but I'm telling you this goes on at other places but that's what you're going to do you're going to explain it away to make the Jones family look different and yet there we are A new head coach is being hired and he's going to keep the entire defensive staff

Was it his choice or was it forced on him??

we'll never know will we we do not know things just because the Internet tells us lots of things,

I realize it's more real time than it used to be it's more open than it used to be but there are things we do not know because we are not living inside those meeting rooms on those phone calls etcetera.

No one truly knows what went on here or in Atlanta or anywhere else,

unless they allow us to know these things...
Good post blueblood70, I would say that Brian Schottenheimer had to agree with Ol Jerry, on this Eberflus hire to get the head coaching job with Dallas. I am in wait and see mode meaning, it feels like Ol Jerry may be giving Brian Schottenheimer the choice this time around on the new defensive coordinator hire and this is very good to see. I would say you are right that some GMs hire their head coach and he does end up keeping the complete defensive, as well as some or all of the offensive coaching staff intact as well. I am looking forward to seeing who gets hired as the new defensive coordinator and what the new hire can get out of this defense after free agency and the draft. I feel that Dallas needs 4 or 5 new starters on the defensive side of the football, next season to really compete at a high-level. I look for this new coordinator to help in completely rebuilding the safety position, and bring in new players at these positions MLB, EDGE, and Nickel corner. Dallas needs a lot on defense, and they must hit big on these players, I think they can through free agency and the draft. Keep this offense intact and build around Q, Clark and Osa. The Cowboys need a right tackle on offense to replace Steel, but they cannot afford to draft one in the first round come April.
 
First of all let me explain what retreads are that everybody hates around here I think Stafanski Coming from a losing organization and being hired that quickly was stupid It makes me think that Atlanta is just as bad as Dallas and they hired him and told him they wanted to keep the old defensive staff and he agreed to it but why they make a decision so fast why is the Titans interviewing Jason Garrett mike Mccarthy mike Mccarthy is going to get a interview with Pittsburgh and then they turn around and the Titans hire another retread who was a loser and yet these other teams are firing really successful head coaches and replacing them with worse ones I mean the Titans why did they let go of Vrabel.??!!

I don't think there is a perfect blueprint here it's very strange the things have been going on and somehow the Jones get all this flak but I'm telling you the rest of the league got problems look at the Giants last three head coaches None of them I would have hired for the Cowboys or been on board with but now they're being pat on the back for doing the right thing that the Cowboys never do seriously that that they hired Harbaugh but their last three choices were horrible how is that any different than the Jones family mike Mccarthy has the same resume as Harbaugh and we hired him I think this is a league wide issue there is no blueprint or guarantees and they're just doing the best they can to find something that fits their team.

Nobody has powers to see the future That is why all these things have to just play themselves out for us to truly judge what's going on and that will include whoever our DC choice happens to be....
It would appear that the Falcons and Titans are struggling franchises and yes, I totally agree with you letting Vrabel go was foolish by the Titans. I wanted Vrabel as head coach here; the guy brings discipline to a football team and that is needed here in Dallas. Good players make good coaches, and Vrabel was and is both.
 
It would appear that the Falcons and Titans are struggling franchises and yes, I totally agree with you letting Vrabel go was foolish by the Titans. I wanted Vrabel as head coach here; the guy brings discipline to a football team and that is needed here in Dallas. Good players make good coaches, and Vrabel was and is both.
Yeah but unfortunately even though the narratives try to steer you the other way Ben Johnson and Mike Vrabel were not coming to Dallas they both only had one team targeted And those teams felt the same way they were not going anywhere but the two teams they went to they were not even an option for the Cowboys even though people want to claim that on the Internet that the Cowboys didn't waste their time interviewing somebody who was not going to take the job..

People can spread false narratives around all they want but people like me who follow every single thing said about the NFL good bad and different whether it's inaccurate or not I know this for a fact ben Johnson was going to the Bears and he was not looking anywhere else no matter how much money he threw at him he knew that was a perfect situation for him And the same thing mike Vrabel was going home as they say and he wasn't going anywhere else those guys were off the table..

And we saw how some of it worked out for everyone else I mean if anyone thinks that Cohen could have done a better job than Schottenheimer they need to remember that Cohen didn't get Matt Eberfus forced on him he didn't have to go through all the same injury nonsense and have some of the free agents totally just poop the bed literally one of our players died I mean the things that our new head coach who's also the offensive coordinator play caller game playing play designing very busy coach I don't think anybody else could have done a better job definitely wasn't going to be Aaron Glenn or Pete Carroll...

I still think the Cowboys made the right choice given better circumstances brian Schottenheimer would have been more successful I think despite the bad circumstances I thought he did a pretty damn good job there was so much distraction and too many fires to put out for a first year head coach that also has plenty of other duties and distractions that he's responsible for..
 
Denver (Leonhard)
Minnesota (D. Jones)
Philly (Parker)

These 3, along with Gannon appear to be on their short-list of DC candidates. Something of note, Jones was their first zoom interview and is going to be their 1st in person interview, he might be the leader of the pack.

Leonhard-comes from that Vance/Rex Ryan tree (3-4)
D. Jones-Zimmer/Flores (4-3)
Parker-Fangio (3-4)

They are all considered rising stars in coaching circles and would be excellent hires.
Viking with Flores are using a 3-4.
 
Denver (Leonhard)
Minnesota (D. Jones)
Philly (Parker)

These 3, along with Gannon appear to be on their short-list of DC candidates. Something of note, Jones was their first zoom interview and is going to be their 1st in person interview, he might be the leader of the pack.

Leonhard-comes from that Vance/Rex Ryan tree (3-4)
D. Jones-Zimmer/Flores (4-3)
Parker-Fangio (3-4)

They are all considered rising stars in coaching circles and would be excellent hires.
Seattle
 
This is about who we interviewing and where they have come from
I'm starting to think maybe we should forget about Leonhard and make Jones or Parker offers they can't refuse. There are too many openings out there. We could find ourselves left with Gannon or retreads.
 
I'm starting to think maybe we should forget about Leonhard and make Jones or Parker offers they can't refuse. There are too many openings out there. We could find ourselves left with Gannon or retreads.
It is possible to lose out but keep in mind there are still a ton of jobs that haven’t been filled and we are further along the process then most.
 
Yeah but unfortunately even though the narratives try to steer you the other way Ben Johnson and Mike Vrabel were not coming to Dallas they both only had one team targeted And those teams felt the same way they were not going anywhere but the two teams they went to they were not even an option for the Cowboys even though people want to claim that on the Internet that the Cowboys didn't waste their time interviewing somebody who was not going to take the job..

People can spread false narratives around all they want but people like me who follow every single thing said about the NFL good bad and different whether it's inaccurate or not I know this for a fact ben Johnson was going to the Bears and he was not looking anywhere else no matter how much money he threw at him he knew that was a perfect situation for him And the same thing mike Vrabel was going home as they say and he wasn't going anywhere else those guys were off the table..

And we saw how some of it worked out for everyone else I mean if anyone thinks that Cohen could have done a better job than Schottenheimer they need to remember that Cohen didn't get Matt Eberfus forced on him he didn't have to go through all the same injury nonsense and have some of the free agents totally just poop the bed literally one of our players died I mean the things that our new head coach who's also the offensive coordinator play caller game playing play designing very busy coach I don't think anybody else could have done a better job definitely wasn't going to be Aaron Glenn or Pete Carroll...

I still think the Cowboys made the right choice given better circumstances brian Schottenheimer would have been more successful I think despite the bad circumstances I thought he did a pretty damn good job there was so much distraction and too many fires to put out for a first year head coach that also has plenty of other duties and distractions that he's responsible for..
Exactly, Ol Jerry made it hard on his first-year head coach, this GM is a major distraction to this football team. Another contract failure with Parsons was a major distraction before the season even got started. This was years in the making, as they all are. Forcing Eberflus on Schottenheimer and not signing the right players to match his terrible zone coverage scheme, killed Schottenheimers chances at a good start to the season as well. The signing of these 2 players were also terrible signings, cb Elam and lb Murray, these 2 players should have never been signed to this football team, they both were miserably bad. Add in the failure of safety Donavon Wilson, left game after game in deep coverage by Eberflus, when he simply cannot cover deep was baffling as well. I will say that Donavon Wilson when playing near the line of scrimmage is a different cat, he will hit and tackle. But a JV football coaching mind should have been able to see Wilson's lack of speed made him an absolute liability in deep coverage. Hooker at safety has lost a step and his ball skills are lacking as well. The distractions and bad decisions brought on by, a man that for some reason, just has to remain as GM, when it is obvious he is over his head, is really frustrating to this fanbase year after year. The only hope that this football team has going forward is, can McClay, Schottenheimer, the scouts and the coaching staff make sound decisions, and can we keep this Owner who stinks at all football related matters at GM, OUT OF THE WAY.
 
Kevin Stefanski may have believed in the defense that was in place in Atlanta, I have no Idea about that situation. Ol Jerry should have let Brian Schottenheimer pick his entire coaching staff, but what Ol Jerry did was hire Eberflus before he hired Schottenheimer. I don't think this ever works because Schottenheimer may have had a much better coach in mind to run his defense last season. Schottenheimer has been coaching in this league for a long time, and he knows a lot of coaches and their philosophies. I just think hiring the defensive coordinator, before you hire your head coach is like putting your cart in front of your horse. I don't have a thing personal against Ol Jerry, he is a good owner, but he is a terrible GM. I think Ol Jerry should have hired a great football mind to run his number one in the world sports franchise, because it is evident he is not GM material period. I wish Ol Jerry would have just stayed in the oil business, a man has got to know his limitations.
Jerry will leave behind a legacy where Cowboys fans resent him, while rival teams and their fans celebrate him. Teams that hate the Cowboys should honor him as their 12th man whenever they play Dallas.
 
Jerry will leave behind a legacy where Cowboys fans resent him, while rival teams and their fans celebrate him. Teams that hate the Cowboys should honor him as their 12th man whenever they play Dallas.
I know you are right, Ol Jerry could have hired a real GM and he would have been looked at in a different light. But the the way Ol Jerry runs this show is beyond belief, he will be remembered as a foolish GM
 

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