Who are your top 3 QBs in this draft?

[egn22]

2 months ago the top 2 QBs in this draft were Paxton Lynch and Jared Goff. You were either in the Goff camp or the Lynch camp. And there was a group of Wentz fans that were all infatuated with the idea of trading back and picking Wentz late Rd 1.

Since then, Goff tore it up in his final bowl game, Lynch played poorly in his bowl game, and Wentz played average in the Senior Bowl, however his stock has soared, and I'm beginning to believe he will be the first QB taken in 2016.

And now, this board has the QBs ranked:
#1 - Carson Wentz
#2 - Jared Goff
#3 - Paxton Lynch

My question is why does it seem as though Lynch has been completely removed from consideration at the 4th pick?

And assuming that Cleveland selects Wentz, I actually prefer Lynch over Goff because Romo affords us the ability to develop a QB with great tools to be his successor. I believe Lynch has a higher ceiling than Goff and won't be required to start immediately as a rookie which is what seems to give Goff the edge in the draft pundits eyes.

Lynch is bigger, faster, more elusive, has bigger hands, has a stronger arm, and has openly stated that he'd welcome the opportunity to develop behind a QB like Romo. For all of these reasons, I'm leaning toward Lynch.

Who do you like, and why?

 

[egn22]

Probably should've titled this thread "A case for Lynch at 4"

 

[silver]

1) Lynch
2) Wentz
3) Goff

Lynch has all the tangibles and really liked the way he played all season. I'm biased towards him because he's from San Antonio and followed him all season. Wentz is also a great athlete and could be a franchise player, only saw him play in his bowl game and the senior bowl. Goff could either be the next Tom Brady or the next Brian Hoyer. He did put some great numbers but I'm not completely sold on him. He looks a bit frail.

 

[Risen Star]

Do I have to adopt your genius of Wentz playing average at the Senior Bowl to play along with this thread?

 

[egn22]

Do I have to adopt your genius of Wentz playing average at the Senior Bowl to play along with this thread?

I want you to play along regardless

Wentz senior bowl stats:
6-10 for 50 yds no TDs 1 sack and a fumble

 

[Risen Star]

I want you to play along regardless

Wentz senior bowl stats:
6-10 for 50 yds no TDs 1 sack and a fumble

If I was lazy and just looked at the stats I would agree.

But I watched the game. So I know better.

 

[IrishAnto]

2 months ago the top 2 QBs in this draft were Paxton Lynch and Jared Goff. You were either in the Goff camp or the Lynch camp. And there was a group of Wentz fans that were all infatuated with the idea of trading back and picking Wentz late Rd 1.

Since then, Goff tore it up in his final bowl game, Lynch played poorly in his bowl game, and Wentz played average in the Senior Bowl, however his stock has soared, and I'm beginning to believe he will be the first QB taken in 2016.

And now, this board has the QBs ranked:
#1 - Carson Wentz
#2 - Jared Goff
#3 - Paxton Lynch

My question is why does it seem as though Lynch has been completely removed from consideration at the 4th pick?

And assuming that Cleveland selects Wentz, I actually prefer Lynch over Goff because Romo affords us the ability to develop a QB with great tools to be his successor. I believe Lynch has a higher ceiling than Goff and won't be required to start immediately as a rookie which is what seems to give Goff the edge in the draft pundits eyes.

Lynch is bigger, faster, more elusive, has bigger hands, has a stronger arm, and has openly stated that he'd welcome the opportunity to develop behind a QB like Romo. For all of these reasons, I'm leaning toward Lynch.

Who do you like, and why?

I think Lynch has the highest celling of the three and if we act now we should have 2-3 years to get him ready (although I think he'll get the chance to start a few games before Romo hangs them up for good).

 

[egn22]

If I was lazy and just looked at the stats I would agree.

But I watched the game. So I know better.

Does your tireless work as a senior bowl observer preclude you from "playing along with this thread"?

I appreciate any opinions on the subject.

 

[Stash]

2 months ago the top 2 QBs in this draft were Paxton Lynch and Jared Goff. You were either in the Goff camp or the Lynch camp. And there was a group of Wentz fans that were all infatuated with the idea of trading back and picking Wentz late Rd 1.

Since then, Goff tore it up in his final bowl game, Lynch played poorly in his bowl game, and Wentz played average in the Senior Bowl, however his stock has soared, and I'm beginning to believe he will be the first QB taken in 2016.

And now, this board has the QBs ranked:
#1 - Carson Wentz
#2 - Jared Goff
#3 - Paxton Lynch

My question is why does it seem as though Lynch has been completely removed from consideration at the 4th pick?

And assuming that Cleveland selects Wentz, I actually prefer Lynch over Goff because Romo affords us the ability to develop a QB with great tools to be his successor. I believe Lynch has a higher ceiling than Goff and won't be required to start immediately as a rookie which is what seems to give Goff the edge in the draft pundits eyes.

Lynch is bigger, faster, more elusive, has bigger hands, has a stronger arm, and has openly stated that he'd welcome the opportunity to develop behind a QB like Romo. For all of these reasons, I'm leaning toward Lynch.

Who do you like, and why?

Lynch is my least favorite candidate, but it's not because I don't like him. It's because I don't trust this staff to be able to coach up a still-developing player who needs it.

 

[InDakWeTrust]

This draft reminds me of the 2004 draft.
Eli=Goff
Rivers=Wentz
Big Ben=Lynch

That is all.

 

[egn22]

Lynch is my least favorite candidate, but it's not because I don't like him. It's because I don't trust this staff to be able to coach up a still-developing player who needs it.

Fair enough, I'm not a Garrett fan either. But I'd think the combination of Garrett's staff, Romo's direction, and overall experience and growth on Lynch's end would be enough to get him ready.

 

[IrishAnto]

Lynch is my least favorite candidate, but it's not because I don't like him. It's because I don't trust this staff to be able to coach up a still-developing player who needs it.

If that's true, then we'll be in trouble whoever we take, as they all need developing (although not the same amount of development).

 

[Risen Star]

Does your tireless work as a senior bowl observer preclude you from "playing along with this thread"?

I appreciate any opinions on the subject.

No. My tireless work as a viewer of games rather than the simplistic reader of stats precludes me from making incorrect assumptions.

 

[Stash]

Fair enough, I'm not a Garrett fan either. But I'd think the combination of Garrett's staff, Romo's direction, and overall experience and growth on Lynch's end would be enough to get him ready.

The only one I have any measure of faith in from the entire group would be Romo himself. But even then, he would be so focused on preparing himself with little to no help, how much time and energy could he devote to coaching up the young guy?

 

[Stash]

If that's true, then we'll be in trouble whoever we take, as they all need developing (although not the same amount of development).

I think we are in trouble as we're currently staffed, the proof is in the pudding concerning the well-documented results. But the less work these guys have to do, and the less a young guy needs, the better our chances are.

 

[Direwolf63]

I predict Lynch starts to climb again after the Combine. He will show that he has all the tools required to succeed. And the smarts.

Regardless, he will be drafted in the top half of the first. Maybe top 10.

 

[egn22]

No. My tireless work as a viewer of games rather than the simplistic reader of stats precludes me from making incorrect assumptions.

I appreciate any opinions on the subject. Its unfortunate you're fixated on the Wentz senior bowl comment. I normally like your input.

 

[AzorAhai]

If I was lazy and just looked at the stats I would agree.

But I watched the game. So I know better.

Its been awhile, but didn't his recievers have a couple of drops on what should have been easily caught balls? 3 if I'm remembering right.

 

[texbumthelife]

2 months ago the top 2 QBs in this draft were Paxton Lynch and Jared Goff. You were either in the Goff camp or the Lynch camp. And there was a group of Wentz fans that were all infatuated with the idea of trading back and picking Wentz late Rd 1.

Since then, Goff tore it up in his final bowl game, Lynch played poorly in his bowl game, and Wentz played average in the Senior Bowl, however his stock has soared, and I'm beginning to believe he will be the first QB taken in 2016.

And now, this board has the QBs ranked:
#1 - Carson Wentz
#2 - Jared Goff
#3 - Paxton Lynch

My question is why does it seem as though Lynch has been completely removed from consideration at the 4th pick?

And assuming that Cleveland selects Wentz, I actually prefer Lynch over Goff because Romo affords us the ability to develop a QB with great tools to be his successor. I believe Lynch has a higher ceiling than Goff and won't be required to start immediately as a rookie which is what seems to give Goff the edge in the draft pundits eyes.

Lynch is bigger, faster, more elusive, has bigger hands, has a stronger arm, and has openly stated that he'd welcome the opportunity to develop behind a QB like Romo. For all of these reasons, I'm leaning toward Lynch.

Who do you like, and why?

I think Lynch is the best long-term prospect of the bunch. As much pub as Wentz get's for his athleticism and size, I think Lynch is even more athletic and has a stronger arm. Lynch, however, has a long wind-up that will need correction and is the least accurate of the three QB's. He also faces similar questions to Goff moving from a spread/shotgun oriented offense, into a more pro-style attack, without the gaudy numbers Goff has. Lynch has more sustained success and experience than Wentz against somewhat superior talent, but hasn't been as big in big games as regularly. To me, the early pub on Lynch hurt him. People love to root for the outlier so they can look back and say, "see I told you so." Because of that, many hitched their trains to Wentz and continue to ride the high as his fame grows.

Goff is clearly the safest pick, if you can call any of these QB's that. He is not without his questions marks, but when the biggest issue facing a QB is lack of weight, I think you're really nitpicking.

Wentz has the most to prove. He's got limited experience and tape while also playing against inferior competition. However, Wentz has prototypical size and is unusually athletic for someone his size. He's got some timing issues but is relatively accurate in the short and intermediate. Long ball needs a lot of work though.

Lynch has to battle against a poor showing in his final outing and the runaway Wentz hype train. He needs to ace the combine and blow up his work outs to get back into the discussion. Lynch does, however, have the strongest arm of the bunch and a gorgeous deep ball. He throws beautifully on the move, though his accuracy is a little erratic. He too has some timing issues and of course, the aforementioned elongated throwing motion.

As far as immediate success, I rank them

1.Goff
2.Wentz
3.Lynch

As far as long term potential, I would put them

1.Lynch
2.Wentz
3.Goff

I haven't been a fan of taking a QB at 4, and I remain against it based on my feeling that none are top-10 worthy QB's. They all need too much work. However, in a trade back scenario where we add a good back-up, I would love to get Lynch.

 

[texbumthelife]

Its been awhile, but didn't his recievers have a couple of drops on what should have been easily caught balls? 3 if I'm remembering right.

His guys did have some drops and the scheme was pretty vanilla, but Wentz didn't look like anything special in the game. Then again, as everyone in the Wentz fan club will point out, the practices are more important than the games.