Who are your top 3 QBs in this draft?

[Risen Star]

Its been awhile, but didn't his recievers have a couple of drops on what should have been easily caught balls? 3 if I'm remembering right.

Yep. They let him down in that game.

 

[tyke1doe]

I would go Goff for these reasons:

1. If you're taking a quarterback in the top 5, you're going to want to start him early. And if that's going to happen sooner rather than later, you'd want the quarterback who is more pro-ready, and that would be Goff.

2. Please name me one quarterback who was drafted top 5 who wasn't thrust into starting early who did okay or who had a career corresponding to where to where he was drafted? I can only think of one, maybe, two: Eli Manning and Phil Rivers. And Eli, really, has been more a quarterback who has excelled when he got the chances. I really feel if we draft one of these quarterbacks, he's going to get thrown to the fire sooner rather than later. And if that's the case give me Goff.

3. Goff has played against better competition than Wentz or Lynch.

4. In the NFL, it's less about having a big arm and size than it is about accuracy and escapability. I think Goff is better with these qualities than his contemporaries.

 

[Direwolf63]

I think Lynch is the best long-term prospect of the bunch. As much pub as Wentz get's for his athleticism and size, I think Lynch is even more athletic and has a stronger arm. Lynch, however, has a long wind-up that will need correction and is the least accurate of the three QB's. He also faces similar questions to Goff moving from a spread/shotgun oriented offense, into a more pro-style attack, without the gaudy numbers Goff has. Lynch has more sustained success and experience than Wentz against somewhat superior talent, but hasn't been as big in big games as regularly. To me, the early pub on Lynch hurt him. People love to root for the outlier so they can look back and say, "see I told you so." Because of that, many hitched their trains to Wentz and continue to ride the high as his fame grows.

Goff is clearly the safest pick, if you can call any of these QB's that. He is not without his questions marks, but when the biggest issue facing a QB is lack of weight, I think you're really nitpicking.

Wentz has the most to prove. He's got limited experience and tape while also playing against inferior competition. However, Wentz has prototypical size and is unusually athletic for somewhat his size. He's got some timing issues but is relatively accurate in the short and intermediate. Long ball needs a lot of work though.

Lynch has to battle against a poor showing in his final outing and the runaway Wentz hype train. He needs to ace the combine and blow up his work outs to get back into the discussion. Lynch does, however, have the strongest arm of the bunch and a gorgeous deep ball. He throws beautifully on the move, though his accuracy is a little erratic. He too has some timing issues and of course, the aforementioned elongated throwing motion.

As far as immediate success, I rank them

1.Goff
2.Wentz
3.Lynch

As far as long term potential, I would put them

1.Lynch
2.Wentz
3.Goff

I haven't been a fan of taking a QB at 4, and I remain against it based on my feeling that none are top-10 worthy QB's. They all need too much work. However, in a trade back scenario where we add a good back-up, I would love to get Lynch.

Thanks for the review. But the fact that they need work is not a negative to me. We don't need him (whoever it is) to play on day one. We aren't Cleveland. The reason to take one this year is to give him the time he requires to be ready when he is eventually needed.

 

[texbumthelife]

Thanks for the review. But the fact that they need work is not a negative to me. We don't need him (whoever it is) to play on day one. We aren't Cleveland. The reason to take one this year is to give him the time he requires to be ready when he is eventually needed.

Agreed and you'll notice I said that all need work so as not to single any single guy out. It's also not necessarily a negative, it's just an observation. However, when you compare where these QB's stand in the readiness with other guys who've gone in the top five, it's easy to see they'll need a little more grooming than a lot of those guys. No one in this class is Luck, for example.

FTR, Cleveland doesn't need an immediate starter either. They've neither stated it or alluded to it. They could just as easily pick up a good vet and draft a guy that needs more grooming.

 

[AzorAhai]

His guys did have some drops and the scheme was pretty vanilla, but Wentz didn't look like anything special in the game. Then again, as everyone in the Wentz fan club will point out, the practices are more important than the games.

Well the incredibly vanilla scheme makes a ton of sense after reading what our coaching staff did not handing out playbooks and doing it all off notes. Easy to see how that would make it difficult to do much more than vanilla with only a limited amount of time to work with together.

 

[texbumthelife]

Well the incredibly vanilla scheme makes a ton of sense after reading what our coaching staff did not handing out playbooks and doing it all off notes. Easy to see how that would make it difficult to do much more than vanilla with only a limited amount of time to work with together.

Agreed. Then again, we've been watching vanilla for years now so that shouldn't be anything new to us.

 

[AzorAhai]

Yep. They let him down in that game.

It's not everyday you get passes thrown to you by a messiah. Can you blame them?

 

[Direwolf63]

Agreed and you'll notice I said that all need work so as not to single any single guy out. It's also not necessarily a negative, it's just an observation. However, when you compare where these QB's stand in the readiness with other guys who've gone in the top five, it's easy to see they'll need a little more grooming than a lot of those guys. No one in this class is Luck, for example.

Agreed.

FTR, Cleveland doesn't need an immediate starter either. They've neither stated it or alluded to it. They could just as easily pick up a good vet and draft a guy that needs more grooming.

Perhaps. But the pressure to start their rookie will be very high. They don't have a Tony Romo to rely on to start. As soon as Hoyer (or whoever starts) throws a pick, the fans will get restless pretty quick.

Come to think of it, that might happen in Dallas too.

 

[texbumthelife]

Agreed.



Perhaps. But the pressure to start their rookie will be very high. They don't have a Tony Romo to rely on to start. As soon as Hoyer (or whoever starts) throws a pick, the fans will get restless pretty quick.

Come to think of it, that might happen in Dallas too.

Hoyer is in Houston. Cleveland will obviously be adding a veteran in free agency. I don't think they will expect a rookie to come in an start right away. I think they're finally looking to actually build a team. They may envision a kid who can start next season, but I'd say barring injuries or tremendous play, they wont hand the ball to a rook.

 

[egn22]

I think Lynch is the best long-term prospect of the bunch. As much pub as Wentz get's for his athleticism and size, I think Lynch is even more athletic and has a stronger arm. Lynch, however, has a long wind-up that will need correction and is the least accurate of the three QB's. He also faces similar questions to Goff moving from a spread/shotgun oriented offense, into a more pro-style attack, without the gaudy numbers Goff has. Lynch has more sustained success and experience than Wentz against somewhat superior talent, but hasn't been as big in big games as regularly. To me, the early pub on Lynch hurt him. People love to root for the outlier so they can look back and say, "see I told you so." Because of that, many hitched their trains to Wentz and continue to ride the high as his fame grows.

Goff is clearly the safest pick, if you can call any of these QB's that. He is not without his questions marks, but when the biggest issue facing a QB is lack of weight, I think you're really nitpicking.

Wentz has the most to prove. He's got limited experience and tape while also playing against inferior competition. However, Wentz has prototypical size and is unusually athletic for someone his size. He's got some timing issues but is relatively accurate in the short and intermediate. Long ball needs a lot of work though.

Lynch has to battle against a poor showing in his final outing and the runaway Wentz hype train. He needs to ace the combine and blow up his work outs to get back into the discussion. Lynch does, however, have the strongest arm of the bunch and a gorgeous deep ball. He throws beautifully on the move, though his accuracy is a little erratic. He too has some timing issues and of course, the aforementioned elongated throwing motion.

As far as immediate success, I rank them

1.Goff
2.Wentz
3.Lynch

As far as long term potential, I would put them

1.Lynch
2.Wentz
3.Goff

I haven't been a fan of taking a QB at 4, and I remain against it based on my feeling that none are top-10 worthy QB's. They all need too much work. However, in a trade back scenario where we add a good back-up, I would love to get Lynch.

Awesome post, thanks for all of the in depth analysis. Really like reading different peoples position on it.

 

[KingintheNorth]

1. Goff


















2a. Wentz
2b. Lynch

 

[pjtoadie]

Hoyer is in Houston. Cleveland will obviously be adding a veteran in free agency. I don't think they will expect a rookie to come in an start right away. I think they're finally looking to actually build a team. They may envision a kid who can start next season, but I'd say barring injuries or tremendous play, they wont hand the ball to a rook.

They'll probably just go with McCown as the day 1 starter imo.

 

[texbumthelife]

They'll probably just go with McCown as the day 1 starter imo.

Agreed. I think they'll try to ink him to a short extension, maybe make it a three year deal.

 

[reddyuta]

Goff
Wentz
Lynch.

 

[egn22]

Goff
Wentz
Lynch.

But why?

 

[Doomsday101]

But why?

For me they all have good size, mobility and can make the throws.

Lynch 6'07" 245
Wentz 6'05" 232
Goff 6'04" 205. Would like to see him put on more weight but I think he has the tools to be a very good QB

 

[TheFinisher]

Lynch/Wentz


Goff

All these young QBs need to be coached up and will have a learning curve. Give me the guy with more physical tools, you can have the physically limited prospect.

 

[reddyuta]

But why?

Goff because he can actually read a defense which the other 2 QBs rarely did.He looks very very good in the pocket which is an underrated part of being a QB in the NFL.

 

[KB1122]

Well, to start with, nobody completes 70 percent of his passes unless you are not throwing the ball downfield very much. So I watched some videos of all three qbs. Watching Lynch, I just thought he threw a lot of screens and to a lot of wide open guys. When he played teams that could cover his receivers, like Miss. St., he couldn't throw very accurately downfield and eventually everything got short as the game went on. I take it something similar happened at the bowl game, which is when his stock started dropping.

Lynch guys say that he runs well for his size. But I'm not sure he's fast enough to be an effective runner at the next level. And he's a stand-up-straight runner. When you watch Wentz, he runs low to the ground like a running back, and consequently he can make people miss. But Lynch runs very upright.

 

[jterrell]

1. Goff. The why is easy. Watch his games, look at his stats. He's a more accurate Derek Carr. Can play very quickly if the system is WCO or spread principles. i.e. 35% of the league. Timing based offenses might require a year or so. What separates him for me is decision-making. He has some Brady to his game where he sees it, lets it fly and uses the proper pass for the situation. He doesn't fire them all in or float them all out. And that football IQ really helps his completion percentages.

2. Wentz. ALL the measurables and upside potential is Hall of Fame. Athletic as anyone in the draft at the position. But very raw with little experience. Could be the next elite guy but you'd liker to Rodgers him with a couple seasons of clipboard duty as he adjusts to the speed of the game.

3. Lynch. Another measurables guy. Little better comp level then Wentz but same general concerns and a concern over accuracy. Has a lot Big Ben to his game. May fit best in a northern nasty outdoor climate.