Who do you want as GM?

[TwoDeep3]

Eliot Wolf

 

[TwoDeep3]

Very true...but this thread will get answers of GM's already under contract, or retread GM's. I'm sure there will be a few bring in Jimmy Johnson answers too.
then there will be Jason Garrett can't manage the game clock comment too.

Is there anyone out there that could be a GM, someone on a team that could be brought in. I have no idea. Even though I agree, it's irrelevent, but the thread is asking a question, even though hypothetical. It's the off season...for us anyway...

More than Deion in 1994, injuries is what caused the team to fail that year. And even then, without Deion, and with a horrid non-call on Deion against Irvin, Dallas was close to beating the 9ers anyway.

 

[Alexander]

with 32 teams in NFL....there would be no shortage of GM you could hire. Your good GM are often previously Director of Pro Scouting.

Here is Albert Breer top future GM candidates:

Chris Ballard, director of player personnel, Kansas CityChiefs
Nick Caserio, director of player personnel, New EnglandPatriots
Eric DeCosta, assistant general manager, BaltimoreRavens
Brian Gaine, assistant general manager, Miami Dolphins
Tom Gamble, vice president of player personnel, Philadelphia Eagles
Jason Licht, vice president of player personnel, Arizona Cardinals
Ryan Pace, director of player personnel, New Orleans Saints
George Paton, assistant general manager, Minnesota Vikings
Jimmy Raye, vice president of football operations, Indianapolis Colts
Duke Tobin, director of player personnel, Cincinnati Bengals
Lionel Vital, director of player personnel, AtlantaFalcons

I like Vital. He has paid his dues for a long time. Gaine was once here, but had to get out of Dallas on the Egg Shell Express with Ireland.

 

[dcstands4]

It was a horrific decision that stood no chance to succeed.

The 2012 draft class is one of the worst of the Jerry era. That entire offseason was an abortion.

I swear you say that about every post about every draft class...

 

[Risen Star]

I swear you say that about every post about every draft class...

No, just the ones where it applies. Like in 2012.

 

[dcstands4]

It is called "talent evaluation"
Read up on it and ask uncle Jerry to do the same when u get done cleaning his glasses next time

Mo wasn't hurt in College and played great there was absolutely NO SIGNS that what is happening to him would have happen.

 

[DallasEast]

Nearly in every post, message board or Cowboys site the only thing yall talk about is how Jerry needs to step down as GM. So my question is who do you want? As Jerry said if he did get one they would answer to him so what's the point? But with that said who is this miracle man that yall feel is our there's?

Scott P. Ex patriots GM failed in Kansas City

Mike Holmgren failed in Cleveland

No successful GM from another team is going to leave their contending team to come to Dallas (this isn't coaching)

So who do you think Is gonna "save" this team?

Baltimore's Eric DeCosta.

He, along with any other general manager hire, would report to Jerry Jones. He could be successful. He could fail. Utterly. He could enjoy a mixture of both. Overall results cannot be determined unless someone is given the opportunity to create them.

Personally, I would hope that Jones would strive towards an amicable working relationship with anyone he would bring in from outside the organization. That is the most any observer could hope for since no one outside a business environment directly controls every action or decision made by those within it.

Change is sometimes good. Nothing is guaranteed. There are general manager candidates that are worse than Jones. Additionally, there are general manager candidates that are better than him. He should give serious thought to whether change can benefit his franchise.

Unfortunately, the business philosophy, we discern from Jones, is that changing the management structure of his own franchise is not optional. Risk is an essential element of successful business practices. Jones is a known risk taker. Narcissism aside, his intractable stance on the subject is not logical.

 

[KingintheNorth]

I would consider Scot McCloughan, current Seahawks Senior Personnel Executive, and former 49ers GM. He is responsible for a lot of the talent on the current 49ers roster. Plus, he's spent over a year learning under Trent Kirchner/Pete Carroll, who have been killing it from a personnel level lately.

 

[visionary]

I would consider Scot McCloughan, current Seahawks Senior Personnel Executive, and former 49ers GM. He is responsible for a lot of the talent on the current 49ers roster. Plus, he's spent over a year learning under Trent Kirchner/Pete Carroll, who have been killing it from a personnel level lately.

sounds good to me

 

[IrishAnto]

Mo wasn't hurt in College and played great there was absolutely NO SIGNS that what is happening to him would have happen.

However he did have a score of 6 in the wonderlic test.


He said he didn't bother doing it as it wasn't directly about football or maybe he's just dumb as at the very least he should have realised it was part of his job interview.


That to me was a red flag.


Physical ability will only get you so far in the NFL.


Smarts are an integral part especially if you want a long career.


If you spend a 1st and 2nd on a guy, he'd better hit the ground running.

 

[BringBackThatOleTimeBoys]

If you could hire the Cowboy's GM that suggests you are the new owner.

So if tomorrow I magically find myself as Owner and President of the Dallas Cowboys what would I do?

Assemble a football brain trust IMMEDIATELY!!! I'd phone and pick the minds of owners like Rooney, Kraft - idle/retired coaches like Cowher, Gruden, Parcells, Reeves, etc. Now I have more opinions than the WalMart inventory, but at least it's from experts with a history of success. Now for the hard part - which one of these football Einsteins do I listen to? I'd lean towards recent success. Would have to pick my philosophy: West Coast offense or Three Yards and a cloud of dust?

I would consider Scott Pioli as he is definitely better than the current Cowboy's GM and he did place talent on the Kansas City Chiefs, even if he did get fired...not saying he would be my pick.

The hardest part is the offseason for 22 teams is NOW - do I blow up the Cowboys or wait? That depends on how fast my football brain trust can move. I'd rather blow the team up now, but I have to stick with a plan.

 

[Risen Star]

Nope.

It's never ANYBODY'S fault when things don't work out around here.

Any that's why nothing ever changes.

As to the original question asked, I think Scot McCloughan would be a good candidate for starters.

Hey, its not the GM's fault he picked a bad player! He couldn't have known! Gosh!

 

[Alexander]

Nope.

It's never ANYBODY'S fault when things don't work out around here.

Any that's why nothing ever changes.

As to the original question asked, I think Scot McCloughan would be a good candidate for starters.

Wrong.

The man in the mirror gets a real stern talking to.

 

[jday]

Nearly in every post, message board or Cowboys site the only thing yall talk about is how Jerry needs to step down as GM. So my question is who do you want? As Jerry said if he did get one they would answer to him so what's the point? But with that said who is this miracle man that yall feel is our there's?

Scott P. Ex patriots GM failed in Kansas City

Mike Holmgren failed in Cleveland

No successful GM from another team is going to leave their contending team to come to Dallas (this isn't coaching)

So who do you think Is gonna "save" this team?

Jimmy Johnson! Why not hand the reigns over to the guy who got us the last 3 Super Bowls?

 

[jazzcat22]

So everyone want s a GM. Wants Jerry to step down. Are all of you so sure it will work. A GM other than Jerry can make this team win, just because he now the GM.
Give the guy a title of GM...instant path to the SB...

And what happens if we go 8-8 for the next 3 years. What will you say. Oh, give him time, he needs to rebuild. Something your not willing to say about JJ the GM and JG the coach.
Or will you say, he can't succeed because JJ was meddling.
It will never end, and the haters of JJ will never give him credit. That's your choice, but if a GM is brought in, and they do win, will you then say it was all the GM, or will you give JJ some credit for doing this.

If JJ stays the GM, and for some reason, and yes it can happen [see Rams when they won the SB] will you then give JJ credit. I doubt most will.
Sometimes people aren't happy unless they have something to whine about.

 

[BHendri5]

Nearly in every post, message board or Cowboys site the only thing yall talk about is how Jerry needs to step down as GM. So my question is who do you want? As Jerry said if he did get one they would answer to him so what's the point? But with that said who is this miracle man that yall feel is our there's?

Scott P. Ex patriots GM failed in Kansas City

Mike Holmgren failed in Cleveland

No successful GM from another team is going to leave their contending team to come to Dallas (this isn't coaching)

So who do you think Is gonna "save" this team?

I want Jerry Jones. there is no need to change. Changing GM will not fix what all of these knuckleheads believe is wrong. 1. If we did hire a GM, he would have to go to Jerry to get things done, and the next thing people will be crying about is that we need a new Owner. 2. the GM is not a scout, he does not go out and find talent, that is the scouts job, which the HC.DC and OC agree that they would like to have that player on the team. 3. Just leave the HC alone and let him continue with the job he is doing, cleaning house, aquiring the RKGs and helping him to add the right coaches to his staff.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

So everyone want s a GM. Wants Jerry to step down. Are all of you so sure it will work. A GM other than Jerry can make this team win, just because he now the GM.
Give the guy a title of GM...instant path to the SB...

And what happens if we go 8-8 for the next 3 years. What will you say. Oh, give him time, he needs to rebuild. Something your not willing to say about JJ the GM and JG the coach.
Or will you say, he can't succeed because JJ was meddling.
It will never end, and the haters of JJ will never give him credit. That's your choice, but if a GM is brought in, and they do win, will you then say it was all the GM, or will you give JJ some credit for doing this.

If JJ stays the GM, and for some reason, and yes it can happen [see Rams when they won the SB] will you then give JJ credit. I doubt most will.
Sometimes people aren't happy unless they have something to whine about.

If Jerry Jones was available as a NFL GM he'd be unemployed.


Jerruh has had his turn for 18 years and counting ...Jones as GM has proven to be a lose/lose for the entire Organization, JJ has nose dived in the Draft way too many times to be accepted in any other NFL arena.

 

[Risen Star]

So everyone want s a GM. Wants Jerry to step down. Are all of you so sure it will work. A GM other than Jerry can make this team win, just because he now the GM.
Give the guy a title of GM...instant path to the SB...

And what happens if we go 8-8 for the next 3 years. What will you say.

Fire the GM. Get another. Hold the guy running the football operations accountable for the results on the field.

I know it's a wacky idea but it's worked before in this league.

 

[jazzcat22]

If Jerry Jones was available as a NFL GM he'd be unemployed.


Jerruh has had his turn for 18 years and counting ...Jones as GM has proven to be a lose/lose for the entire Organization, JJ has nose dived in the Draft way too many times to be accepted in any other NFL arena.

Guess you missed my point...or made my point on the last line.

 

[KingintheNorth]

I want Jerry Jones. there is no need to change. Changing GM will not fix what all of these knuckleheads believe is wrong. 1. If we did hire a GM, he would have to go to Jerry to get things done, and the next thing people will be crying about is that we need a new Owner. 2. the GM is not a scout, he does not go out and find talent, that is the scouts job, which the HC.DC and OC agree that they would like to have that player on the team. 3. Just leave the HC alone and let him continue with the job he is doing, cleaning house, aquiring the RKGs and helping him to add the right coaches to his staff.

Wow. I often wonder how anyone can still support Jerry Jones and then I see someone regurgitating his words. You have bought into Jerry's nonsense hook, line, and sinker.

Having a GM who is accountable for his decisions is how 95% of professional sports team operate. The past 18 Super Bowl champions all had one. This system that Jerry has created has proven to be a failure for almost two decades, unless your only goal is to make money. It's time to evolve.