Who do you want as GM?

[EPL0c0]

if we're playing the "In a Jerry-less world" game, I'd have to go with Bill Belichick. The guy's not just a heck of a coach, but he has a knack for finding talent where others have passed.

 

[Fredd]

to the OP, I have said in many a thread that I would love to see Roger Staubach as GM...great business sense, terrific football mind, has the obvious cowboys connection, not afraid to speak his mind

 

[Fletch]

Jerry!!!!!!!!

 

[perrykemp]

Eliot Wolf

Ever look at his Bio and Background? Pretty incredible.

I suspect he has already been promised the Packer GM gig -- Thompson has hinted he is nearing retirement.

 

[junk]

Great thread idea. Refreshing to discuss solutions to problems instead of pretending they don't exist. Most of the time we can't get past the "Jerry isn't a problem", "Dallas is no different than any other team in the league", "Garrett is in charge....or maybe Ciskowski", "You're hung up on titles" type of discussions.

Of course there is no guarantee that bringing in a GM will be an immediate success. Like coaches, you may have to work through them to find a fit. Teams do it in the league all the time. However, to achieve (and maintain) long term success, you need the correct organizational structure in place. Dallas does not currently have that. A GM would be much more than a "middle man" to Jerry.

A few of the qualifications I'd look for:

1. A former scout
2. Someone who has spent time in an NFL front office under a successful NFL GM
3. Preferably someone who has coached
4. Preferably someone who has played at least college football (would take a pretty special resume to have not played at least at that level)

For purposes of this discussion, I'm not going to consider any current NFL GMs would I'd take in a heartbeat here: John Schneider, Ozzie Newsome, Ted Thompson, Trent Baalke, etc.

A couple of good candidates have been mentioned already.
1. Eric DeCosta (in general, Ozzie's 20/20 club would be a great place to look for candidates)
2. Joel Patten - extensive scouting background and has spent a good chunk of his career with Baalke. Former NFL player
3. Eliot Wolf - generally not a fan of NFL nepotism, but he has plenty of experience under some good NFL GMs
4. Vincent Newsome - Another 20/20 club member. Former NFL player. Tutored by Ozzie Newsome
5. Brian Gutekunst - Played and coached. Has worked under Ron Wolf and Ted Thompson.

A couple of things on a couple other guys that were suggested in this thread:
1. Pioli - Ran the KC drafts from 2009-2011 - I think the only Pro Bowlers he drafted were Eric Berry (top 5) and Justin Houston. KC killed the 2008 draft before Pioli took over
2. McCloughan - Think he only ran 2 drafts in SF, I think. 2008 and 2009 which weren't great. Crabtree was about it. Drafts picked up once Baalke moved in.

 

[Next Years Champ]

Nearly in every post, message board or Cowboys site the only thing yall talk about is how Jerry needs to step down as GM. So my question is who do you want? As Jerry said if he did get one they would answer to him so what's the point? But with that said who is this miracle man that yall feel is our there's?

Scott P. Ex patriots GM failed in Kansas City

Mike Holmgren failed in Cleveland

No successful GM from another team is going to leave their contending team to come to Dallas (this isn't coaching)

So who do you think Is gonna "save" this team?

I wish Troy Aikman to take a shot at it.

What I see Troy doing is becoming a part-owner of a team at some point like John Elway did in Denver.

..being a GM would be invaluable experience if that's a correct assumption.

 

[perrykemp]

Great thread idea. Refreshing to discuss solutions to problems instead of pretending they don't exist. Most of the time we can't get past the "Jerry isn't a problem", "Dallas is no different than any other team in the league", "Garrett is in charge....or maybe Ciskowski", "You're hung up on titles" type of discussions.

Of course there is no guarantee that bringing in a GM will be an immediate success. Like coaches, you may have to work through them to find a fit. Teams do it in the league all the time. However, to achieve (and maintain) long term success, you need the correct organizational structure in place. Dallas does not currently have that. A GM would be much more than a "middle man" to Jerry.

A few of the qualifications I'd look for:

1. A former scout
2. Someone who has spent time in an NFL front office under a successful NFL GM
3. Preferably someone who has coached
4. Preferably someone who has played at least college football (would take a pretty special resume to have not played at least at that level)

For purposes of this discussion, I'm not going to consider any current NFL GMs would I'd take in a heartbeat here: John Schneider, Ozzie Newsome, Ted Thompson, Trent Baalke, etc.

A couple of good candidates have been mentioned already.
1. Eric DeCosta (in general, Ozzie's 20/20 club would be a great place to look for candidates)
2. Joel Patten - extensive scouting background and has spent a good chunk of his career with Baalke. Former NFL player
3. Eliot Wolf - generally not a fan of NFL nepotism, but he has plenty of experience under some good NFL GMs
4. Vincent Newsome - Another 20/20 club member. Former NFL player. Tutored by Ozzie Newsome
5. Brian Gutekunst - Played and coached. Has worked under Ron Wolf and Ted Thompson.

A couple of things on a couple other guys that were suggested in this thread:
1. Pioli - Ran the KC drafts from 2009-2011 - I think the only Pro Bowlers he drafted were Eric Berry (top 5) and Justin Houston. KC killed the 2008 draft before Pioli took over
2. McCloughan - Think he only ran 2 drafts in SF, I think. 2008 and 2009 which weren't great. Crabtree was about it. Drafts picked up once Baalke moved in.

Real nice list.

 

[Wood]

So everyone want s a GM. Wants Jerry to step down. Are all of you so sure it will work. A GM other than Jerry can make this team win, just because he now the GM.
Give the guy a title of GM...instant path to the SB...

And what happens if we go 8-8 for the next 3 years. What will you say. Oh, give him time, he needs to rebuild. Something your not willing to say about JJ the GM and JG the coach.
Or will you say, he can't succeed because JJ was meddling.
It will never end, and the haters of JJ will never give him credit. That's your choice, but if a GM is brought in, and they do win, will you then say it was all the GM, or will you give JJ some credit for doing this.

If JJ stays the GM, and for some reason, and yes it can happen [see Rams when they won the SB] will you then give JJ credit. I doubt most will.
Sometimes people aren't happy unless they have something to whine about.

I think your missing the point almost entirely. Its more about holding the new/next GM accountable (like every other credible team) and if he was unfortunate to perform on same level as Jerry...he would get fired. Hopefully he performs well and you start to establish sustainable success on field.

 

[crashintonickdm]

id take mickey mouse at this point

 

[FLCowboyFan]

Nearly in every post, message board or Cowboys site the only thing yall talk about is how Jerry needs to step down as GM. So my question is who do you want? As Jerry said if he did get one they would answer to him so what's the point? But with that said who is this miracle man that yall feel is our there's?

Scott P. Ex patriots GM failed in Kansas City

Mike Holmgren failed in Cleveland

No successful GM from another team is going to leave their contending team to come to Dallas (this isn't coaching)

So who do you think Is gonna "save" this team?

Not Jerry! That's who I want

 

[dcstands4]

I've always wondered why roger isn't in "football" so to speak

to the OP, I have said in many a thread that I would love to see Roger Staubach as GM...great business sense, terrific football mind, has the obvious cowboys connection, not afraid to speak his mind

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[Common Sense]

Everyone is talking about scouting, but what about someone who can manage a salary cap? That's really when things really started to go south for Jerry.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Great thread idea. Refreshing to discuss solutions to problems instead of pretending they don't exist. Most of the time we can't get past the "Jerry isn't a problem", "Dallas is no different than any other team in the league", "Garrett is in charge....or maybe Ciskowski", "You're hung up on titles" type of discussions.

Of course there is no guarantee that bringing in a GM will be an immediate success. Like coaches, you may have to work through them to find a fit. Teams do it in the league all the time. However, to achieve (and maintain) long term success, you need the correct organizational structure in place. Dallas does not currently have that. A GM would be much more than a "middle man" to Jerry.

A few of the qualifications I'd look for:

1. A former scout
2. Someone who has spent time in an NFL front office under a successful NFL GM
3. Preferably someone who has coached
4. Preferably someone who has played at least college football (would take a pretty special resume to have not played at least at that level)

For purposes of this discussion, I'm not going to consider any current NFL GMs would I'd take in a heartbeat here: John Schneider, Ozzie Newsome, Ted Thompson, Trent Baalke, etc.

A couple of good candidates have been mentioned already.
1. Eric DeCosta (in general, Ozzie's 20/20 club would be a great place to look for candidates)
2. Joel Patten - extensive scouting background and has spent a good chunk of his career with Baalke. Former NFL player
3. Eliot Wolf - generally not a fan of NFL nepotism, but he has plenty of experience under some good NFL GMs
4. Vincent Newsome - Another 20/20 club member. Former NFL player. Tutored by Ozzie Newsome
5. Brian Gutekunst - Played and coached. Has worked under Ron Wolf and Ted Thompson.

A couple of things on a couple other guys that were suggested in this thread:
1. Pioli - Ran the KC drafts from 2009-2011 - I think the only Pro Bowlers he drafted were Eric Berry (top 5) and Justin Houston. KC killed the 2008 draft before Pioli took over
2. McCloughan - Think he only ran 2 drafts in SF, I think. 2008 and 2009 which weren't great. Crabtree was about it. Drafts picked up once Baalke moved in.

I going to throw out a name that may be way out in left field but I think he would be great GM. Troy Aikman.

I think Troy knows what it takes to win and would have the patience and foresight to look into the future. The only problem, however, is that I don't think he would ever work for Jerry.

 

[Direwolf63]

I would consider Scot McCloughan, current Seahawks Senior Personnel Executive, and former 49ers GM. He is responsible for a lot of the talent on the current 49ers roster. Plus, he's spent over a year learning under Trent Kirchner/Pete Carroll, who have been killing it from a personnel level lately.

I would be on board with this. But unless the entire executive structure changes to reflect a more traditional/sane one, it would be useless. Jerry won't do it. And even if he did, most won't sign up unless it's written in his contract that he has teh final say in personnel matters. And that simply won't happen in Dallas.