Who is our weakest Link?

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Who is our weakest link?

On Offense I guess it would be Kyle Kosier.
Truthfully though I thought he was pretty solid last year.

WR= Exceptional
TE= Exceptional
RB= Good
QB=Good
LT= Solid to Good
RT= Solid to Good
C = Good
RG = ??? but I think a motivated Davis is a better prospect than Kosier
LG =Solid


On Defense, of course FS comes to mind even though Hamlin makes this spot better.
But I also think we need more from or DE.

DE = Fair to Solid
NT = Solid to Good
OLB = Good to Exceptional
ILB = Solid
RCB = Solid
LCB = Exceptional
SS = Solid to Good
FS = ??? I would hope Hamlin is solid
 

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Offense: On the line, I'd say center is the weakest link. On the offense as a whole, if Julius is starting, he's our weakest link.

Defense: Where to begin? There are so many question marks. The ends have pretty much sucked it up since they've been here, though they may improve under Wade. Bradie James was one of the worst players in the league last season, but he's dumped 20 pounds in hopes of not being slower than Larry Allen. Henry had his knee problem that seemed to really hurt his play. Or was it the knee injury -- maybe he just sucks. Hamlin's also a giant question mark. Pre-injury Hamlin should make the Pro Bowl, but post-injury Hamlin might have us scrambling for a high draft pick FS.
 

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To me our weakest link is that we do not have an emotional leader on the team that everyone rallies around. They're all quiet, even tempered, good guys and decent players, but no one is in everyone's face demanding more.

We haven't had a true team leader since Darren Woodson retired.
 

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Hostile;1548762 said:
To me our weakest link is that we do not have an emotional leader on the team that everyone rallies around. They're all quiet, even tempered, good guys and decent players, but no one is in everyone's face demanding more.

We haven't had a true team leader since Darren Woodson retired.

T.O. will step up in that department this year.especially if he is having an "i luvs me sum me" year,which i am hoping for.
 

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Hostile;1548762 said:
They're all quiet, even tempered, good guys and decent players, but no one is in everyone's face demanding more.

We had a head coach doing that but apparently he was too demanding and made everyone miserable.
 

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I would say the defensive interior lineman. Spears, Canty and Ferguson
 

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Alexander;1548770 said:
We had a head coach doing that but apparently he was too demanding and made everyone miserable.
I don't think this is what he was doing at all. I'm talking about someone like Michael Irvin who asked every player who was going to work harder than him that day and if someone said they were going to he challenged them even more.

There's a huge chasm between that and "don't put him in Canton yet."
 

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juckie;1548765 said:
T.O. will step up in that department this year.especially if he is having an "i luvs me sum me" year,which i am hoping for.
I knew this repsonse was coming. He's never been a leader. I look for Romo to do this on offense. I keep hoping Roy will on defense. I think Burnett or Carpenter could, similar to Ray Lewis in B-more.

Owens? I seriously doubt it. Too focused on himself to put team first.
 

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Hostile;1548775 said:
I knew this repsonse was coming. He's never been a leader. I look for Romo to do this on offense. I keep hoping Roy will on defense. I think Burnett or Carpenter could, similar to Ray Lewis in B-more.

Owens? I seriously doubt it. Too focused on himself to put team first.

the only time he gets emotional is when he thinks he's not getting the ball enough.
 

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Hostile;1548774 said:
I don't think this is what he was doing at all. I'm talking about someone like Michael Irvin who asked every player who was going to work harder than him that day and if someone said they were going to he challenged them even more.

There's a huge chasm between that and "don't put him in Canton yet."

You do not believe Coach Parcells pushed these players? It is clear he did. They like the "laid-back" and "soft-spoken" approach. He rode them and they obviously did not respond.

I understand your point about Irvin. That is one leadership aspect that we do not have. We have talkers. Not doers. Not players that are the best and demand others follow their lead. We have hard workers, nice people and underachievers. We have talent, I just question desire.

We just do not have players who are scared to death to lose like Irvin was. He literally played like every game was life or death. I do not see that in any player we have had since, even Woodson, who was a cut above our tepid leadership now.
 

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cowboyfreak;1548735 said:
RG = ??? but I think a motivated Davis is a better prospect than Kosier

Kosier doesn't play RG.

I don't know why everyone is so down on him and wants him replaced. Rivera was the biggest problem on the inside. You can win with play like we received from Kosier last year. That's far from our weak link.
 

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I agree there is an emotional intangible missing on this team that is our biggest flaw. I could be called many different things, but I call it lacking street toughness. The team is too easily prone to getting into funks when adversity shows itself.
 

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Alexander;1548782 said:
Kosier doesn't play RG.

I don't know why everyone is so down on him and wants him replaced. Rivera was the biggest problem on the inside. You can win with play like we received from Kosier last year. That's far from our weak link.

Kosier and Gurode were our only bright spots on the oline last year and I would be surprised if anyone beats him out in TC.
 

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Alexander;1548780 said:
You do not believe Coach Parcells pushed these players? It is clear he did. They like the "laid-back" and "soft-spoken" approach. He rode them and they obviously did not respond.

I understand your point about Irvin. That is one leadership aspect that we do not have. We have talkers. Not doers. Not players that are the best and demand others follow their lead. We have hard workers, nice people and underachievers. We have talent, I just question desire.

We just do not have players who are scared to death to lose like Irvin was. He literally played like every game was life or death. I do not see that in any player we have had since, even Woodson, who was a cut above our tepid leadership now.
Yes, he pushed them, but it's not the kind of emotional leader I'm talking about. His methods can work or backfire.

He pushed their buttons. It is debatable whether he fired them up or not.

There is no doubt Irvin did, and in truth I think a guy on the field doing it goes over better. You hit on exactly what I meant when you said afraid to lose. I'm looking for a guy who is so sickened by losing that he doesn't accept going through the motions.

That is what this team lacks. George Teague defended the star when Owens did his thing. I think Cliff Harris would have sent Owens out prone on a stretcher in his day. Roy has that capacity to do that, but he lets stuff go. Owens stood right on the star in the endzone helmet when he was with the Eagles right next to Roy. I think once again Cliff Harris would have leveled him.

Mike Furrey threw a football into one of the stars and broke it. No one made Mike Furrey pay. I believe someone like a Harvey Martin or Charles Haley would have knocked his head off, or since they didn't line up against WRs would have crushed his QB. No disrespect is meant to any of our players over this, but they don't enforce themselves.

I miss that. That's what I am talking about as our weakest link. Aeneas Williams trash talks Michael Irvin and all Irvin does is burn him for 200+ yards and 3 scores.

Attitude on the field is missing. I am hopeful the new Defensive scheme brings some.
 

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InmanRoshi;1548786 said:
I agree there is an emotional intangible missing on this team that is our biggest flaw. I could be called many different things, but I call it lacking street toughness. The team is too easily prone to getting into funks when adversity shows itself.
I couldn't have said it any better, and certinaly not as briefly.
 

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Yeagermeister;1548787 said:
Kosier and Gurode were our only bright spots on the oline last year and I would be surprised if anyone beats him out in TC.
Colombo > Gurode
 

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Alexander;1548770 said:
We had a head coach doing that but apparently he was too demanding and made everyone miserable.

I don't know if players were miserable -- they've bad mouthed him a little since he's gone but that happens whenever someone leaves. Recall that before he left guys like Newman were saying stuff like "I sure hope he stays"

Yeah, he was a highly critical and demanding coach - whenever you replace someone like that there is an immediate honeymoon period where everything is great. Then the pendulum swings the other way and guys start complaining about a lack of discipline. We have seen this before.

To me, the leadership problem came from a handful of areas. First, Woodson got hurt and it wasn't clear if he'd be back or not -- when he went on the PuP it created the impression that he'd be back in 6 weeks -- so other players didn't step up and try to fill the void. Second, Ellis started whining. Third, Bledsoe really stunk it up in 2006. He was the offensive captain and had established himself as a real leader. Fourth, losing Keyshawn. Many on the board didn't like him but he was a real heart and soul guy. Fifth, since drafting stank for years, we've now got a very young team - young guys are far less likely to step up as leaders.
 

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Hostile;1548762 said:
To me our weakest link is that we do not have an emotional leader on the team that everyone rallies around. They're all quiet, even tempered, good guys and decent players, but no one is in everyone's face demanding more.

We haven't had a true team leader since Darren Woodson retired.

I emailed this question to DC.com radio last year prior to player interviews. They did not have a definitive answer so they asked Aaron Glenn. He did not have a definitive answer either, but mentioned Bradie and Ellis. They are a far cry from Norton Jr. and Haley. I think Ware has the potential because he is a playmaker. I've noticed he is more vocal and emotional as he gains experience. Someone needs to step up.
 
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