Who is your Cowboys biggest draft bust of the decade?

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CowboyMcCoy;3153611 said:
I'm not saying you want it. I'm saying that's the reality of it. Some of Brett Favre's best games were when he was hopped up on vicodin. Players have vices just like everyone else. I'm sure it's a lot having to deal with the pressures of the game, the expectations of the fans; not to mention the pressure you put on yourself to win.

That was many years into his career. Unlike Dallas, Atlanta didn't draft a QB they knew to be a recreational drug user.

I'd wager, if the truth could be actually known, that more QBs are potheads than you think. I don't smoke it anymore, but I don't think it would hurt as much as others think. But you can never know unless you've been a regular user of it. I'm not anymore, but I do disagree with you in that it would depend on the particular player and how they perform while under the influence of thc.

I don't think you can ignore the importance of the position he plays. I don't want my QB, the public face of the franchise, getting stoned or habitually drunk. Big difference between Stepnoski (a notorious toker) and Aikman, in that regard.
 

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bbgun;3153628 said:
That was many years into his career. Unlike Dallas, Atlanta didn't draft a QB they knew to be a recreational drug user.



I don't think you can ignore the importance of the position he plays. I don't want my QB, the public face of the franchise, getting stoned or habitually drunk. Big difference between Stepnoski (a notorious toker) and Aikman, in that regard.

that trash Vick got drafted #1 overall...tells you what owners think of having a pothead as the face of your organization

I think everyone knew that turd has HUGE issues when he came out, and it was ignored.
 

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dbair1967;3153631 said:
that trash Vick got drafted #1 overall...tells you what owners think of having a pothead as the face of your organization

I think everyone knew that turd has HUGE issues when he came out, and it was ignored.

Oh, absolutely. Some people never learn.
 

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Sorry, I need a recap...

We took JuJo over Steven Jackson? We could have taken him ? Is that right? If thats right, why are we still talking?
 

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bbgun;3153592 said:
Nobody in their right mind would want their quarterback, the de facto team leader, to be an active or reformed pothead.

i know he wasn't qb, but stepnoski had a great career and actively smoked.

people that just go totally absolute just don't understand, just... go absolute.
 

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iceberg;3153658 said:
i know he wasn't qb, but stepnoski had a great career and actively smoked.

people that just go totally absolute just don't understand, just... go absolute.

Fine, I don't want a "functioning" alcoholic as my qb, either.
 

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bbgun;3153628 said:
That was many years into his career. Unlike Dallas, Atlanta didn't draft a QB they knew to be a recreational drug user.

Fair enough. But no one truly knows when he started using. He may have been in Atlanta or he may not have been. I don't know. I do know denial is a big part of addiction so he may have lied and it wouldn't have been good on the PR front to say he's been using all along.



I don't think you can ignore the importance of the position he plays. I don't want my QB, the public face of the franchise, getting stoned or habitually drunk. Big difference between Stepnoski (a notorious toker) and Aikman, in that regard.

So you're saying Aikman never toked? I would venture to say otherwise. However, I can't be sure. But the company he kept in those days weren't exactly walking a straight and narrow line. Irvin was notorious for getting high on crack and patronizing hookers. Yet he wasn't the quarterback; I understand. I just don't think Aikman was Mr. Sober back in those days. In any case, I don't want to start an argument over using being cool or a good thing. I'm just saying it's part of the reality in the NFL.
 

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dbair1967;3153631 said:
that trash Vick got drafted #1 overall...tells you what owners think of having a pothead as the face of your organization

I think everyone knew that turd has HUGE issues when he came out, and it was ignored.

I've got Bingo!
 

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iceberg;3151016 said:
what about 'em?

if YOU feel they're the biggest bust, just say so but why fixate on people who don't pick who you do?

:hammer:

Well played sir
 

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CowboyMcCoy;3153676 said:
So you're saying Aikman never toked? I would venture to say otherwise. However, I can't be sure.

I wouldn't accuse him of toking any more than I'd accuse him of being gay (thanks, Skip). AFAIK, he didn't have a drug problem at UCLA, didn't enter the league on probation, and didn't indulge as an NFL QB.

But the company he kept in those days weren't exactly walking a straight and narrow line. Irvin was notorious for getting high on crack and patronizing hookers. Yet he wasn't the quarterback; I understand. I just don't think Aikman was Mr. Sober back in those days. In any case, I don't want to start an argument over using being cool or a good thing. I'm just saying it's part of the reality in the NFL.

Not a big fan of guilt by association. Tom Landry spent a lot of time around Hollywood Henderson. Was he a cokehead too?
 

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bbgun;3153723 said:
Not a big fan of guilt by association. Tom Landry spent a lot of time around Hollywood Henderson. Was he a cokehead too?

Landry: "Whew! This is some good stuff."
 

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Lacewell said at the time that they heard a bunch of "rumors" and checked into Quincy more than any other player they've ever researched. He said they found most of it to be untrue.

A total crap draft.

Was that the same investigative team that found Pacman not guilty at the Joule?

And I'll go with Bobby Carp. Number 18 overall and can't play a lick. At least Rogers was a lower second rounder where players routinely don't make it.

Yeah, he's BC is our nickel backer, but plenty of guys off the street could do the same job. I expect Jason Williams to be far superior at it next year, if he isn't starting.
 

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bbgun;3153723 said:
I wouldn't accuse him of toking any more than I'd accuse him of being gay (thanks, Skip). AFAIK, he didn't have a drug problem at UCLA, didn't enter the league on probation, and didn't indulge as an NFL QB.



Not a big fan of guilt by association. Tom Landry spent a lot of time around Hollywood Henderson. Was he a cokehead too?

I'm not fan either. I was saying we don't know. But we do know they had a party house and things were going on there. That's a fact. I agree, though, LT didn't make Parcells a cokehead, although if he were he probably wouldn't have size D breasts.
 

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How anyone could vote for anyone other than Goodrich is beyond me. That guy never gave us anything. According to Pro football reference he gave us 8 tackles from 2000- 2002. Then he killed two people and went to prison. Quincy led us to the playoffs, Carpenter is playing in the nickle. As bad as those two were and are they at least contributed more than Goodrich.
 

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quincy carter definitely because he set back the search for a real quarterback for so long. That guy couldn't even throw a good spiral when he came to the NFL.
 

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Jason Peters.

Why?

Because our failures acquiring an offensive tackle in the draft has hurt us til this day.

Choosing Quincy Carter has not since we were able to get Drew Bledsoe and acquired Tony Romo via free agency.

And I don't get the Barbie hate. He's currently playing and doing fairly well. And his career isn't over. Peters didn't even get started.
 
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