Vertigo_17
Well-Known Member
- Messages
- 2,278
- Reaction score
- 56
Hostile;3150954 said:
right on. how parcell's was able to scheme/disguise us to winning season with QC at the helm still amazes me
Who is your Cowboys biggest draft bust of the decade?
- Thread starter viman96
- Start date
right on. how parcell's was able to scheme/disguise us to winning season with QC at the helm still amazes me
DFWJC
Well-Known Member
- Messages
- 59,982
- Reaction score
- 48,729
1st one i always thnk of is Sherman Williams, but he predates the daced.
Anyone picked (even as high as the 1st two rounds) that gets significant playing time, imo, would come out ahead of someone picked even as low as the forth if the latter gets cut within a year. So without any research I'd assume Barbie and Quincy would not win this award.
Anyone picked (even as high as the 1st two rounds) that gets significant playing time, imo, would come out ahead of someone picked even as low as the forth if the latter gets cut within a year. So without any research I'd assume Barbie and Quincy would not win this award.
DFWJC
Well-Known Member
- Messages
- 59,982
- Reaction score
- 48,729
Yeah...good timing for sure. That was the worst the NFC has ever been that I can recall. There was not a single great team and only a couple of good ones: Carolina and the Rams were two of them.JPM;3151603 said:
Sean Peyton as OC and Mike Zimmer as DC, along with Parcells was a good mix. Oddly, even that team lost 3 of its last 5 gaems (or 4 of 6 including the playoffs). This trend knows no boundaries.
TheMarathonContinues
Well-Known Member
- Messages
- 84,021
- Reaction score
- 76,726
You guys are getting on Quincy but imagine asking Romo to go out there every game with Troy Hambrick as his starting running back. Its by far Barbie Carpenter. Its hard for me to be let down by a quarterback in Quincy who was projected to go in the 4th-5th round. He exceeded my expectations by going to the playoffs. Was a good guy who just battled demons. Can't knock the guy for having drug problems. I don't know someone out there who does drugs just to do them.
Bob Sacamano
Benched
- Messages
- 57,084
- Reaction score
- 3
rocyaice;3151856 said:
were you born in a convent?
Vtwin
Safety third
- Messages
- 8,677
- Reaction score
- 12,160
rocyaice;3151856 said:
I agree with this (except for the drugs part).
QC might be the dumbest draft pick ever made by this franchise but he did not fail to reach the realistic expectations placed on him.
Who expected him to lead the Cowboys to ten winning seasons, many playoff wins and a championship or two?
Well, besides Jerry anyway...
wileedog
Well-Known Member
- Messages
- 11,356
- Reaction score
- 2,393
Vtwin;3151866 said:
I think the difference is its not like Carpenter was considered a reach though. Almost everyone had him going mid to late 1st round and thought he was going to be a stud at this level. There were very few who panned the pick (I'm sure a few people will raise their hands after this and proudly proclaim they knew he would suck, but I clearly remember a lot of people very happy with the pick).
Busts happen, its the nature of it and its bad luck.
Trading up to reach for a QB who just about no one thought was immediate NFL starting material (or maybe even developmental) is a whole other matter though.
Bob Sacamano
Benched
- Messages
- 57,084
- Reaction score
- 3
btw, the whole idea for Jerry trading up and reaching for Quincy in the 2nd round, was so that he could lock him up for 5 years
clearly the development failed, but you can't really pan a pick that was hinged on future performances
like wileedog said, it has to be Carpenter
he's fallen well short of expectations (he was supposed to be a fixture at SOLB in a 3-4 for 10 years)
clearly the development failed, but you can't really pan a pick that was hinged on future performances
like wileedog said, it has to be Carpenter
he's fallen well short of expectations (he was supposed to be a fixture at SOLB in a 3-4 for 10 years)
Vtwin
Safety third
- Messages
- 8,677
- Reaction score
- 12,160
utrunner07;3151307 said:
Well,
You do have to factor in that he really never got to play with Aikman due to injuries so it would be hard for me to call that a huge bust.
It was a gamble but Jerry saw one more chance to get one with that team and he went for it.
If we had got one I'd call it a good trade.
jterrell
Penguinite
- Messages
- 33,874
- Reaction score
- 15,971
1. Bobby Carpenter. Year 4 and a guy drafted 18th still can't get more than 20 snaps a game.
2. Dwayne Goodrich. We needed CB's bad so he was gifted a starting spot and then was immediately awful on and off the field. Horrid scouting.
3. Jacob Rogers. Another guy where we needed help badly but he had zero heart for the game.
4. Tony Dixon. Guy couldn't tackle and couldn't cover. How we drafted this guy who was benched for awful play his senior year in college is beyond me.
5. QCar. Best case he was a bus driver in the Vince Young mold but a combination of VY and "Pookie" from New Jack City doesn't give you much to work with.
2. Dwayne Goodrich. We needed CB's bad so he was gifted a starting spot and then was immediately awful on and off the field. Horrid scouting.
3. Jacob Rogers. Another guy where we needed help badly but he had zero heart for the game.
4. Tony Dixon. Guy couldn't tackle and couldn't cover. How we drafted this guy who was benched for awful play his senior year in college is beyond me.
5. QCar. Best case he was a bus driver in the Vince Young mold but a combination of VY and "Pookie" from New Jack City doesn't give you much to work with.
iceberg
rock music matters
- Messages
- 34,404
- Reaction score
- 7,932
Bob Sacamano;3151875 said:
and apparantly carter was supposed to be a qb for the next "x" number of years after we "developed" him. but since we started him so early in his career, i don't see how the long term committment can pan out to why he's not a bust.
you take a qb that high up to be your qb of the future. that didn't work out well either, did it?
Randy White
Well-Known Member
- Messages
- 6,167
- Reaction score
- 80
jterrell;3151879 said:
^^^^^
what he said..
Folks, read the question. Once again, it's not the biggest disappointment, or the most talented who didn't pan out ( there's a new threat material ), or the biggest off the field scumbag. It's who's the biggest draft bust of the decade.
Unless Barbie turns into an ALL PRO in the next 4 games, the Cowboys are not going to bring him back because he simply sucks. That automatically makes him the biggest one in this decade SO FAR.. and pray that's the case because otherwise, the next guys in line would be Felix Jones and Jenkins and certainly you don't want either of them to do worse than Barbie.
Big Country
Rolling Thunder
- Messages
- 3,761
- Reaction score
- 40
Jacob Rogers