Who thinks we franchise Spencer this weekend?

Jarv

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visionary;5013050 said:
i guess we can agree on something :)

tag spencer with the intention of trading him for a 2

if we cant find a trade partner, he plays on the tag

no long term deal for a soon to be 30 year old one year wonder

Pretty much agree with this (tag and trade), except if we don't get any bites maybe pull the tag or cut him before the season starts, if that is allowed?
 

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Assuming we restructure Ratliff, Scandrick, etc. and we have the short-term cap room,

I would tag Spencer for 1 more year.

Then, I continue to try and work out a longer term deal and also look to see if I can get something for him in a trade that makes sense.

I think if we restructure the guys discussed above, plus deal with Connor and Free, that choice will be available to us.

I wonder if the Cowboys have given Free an ultimatum similar to Connor?
 

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The only FAs I would spend any big money on are Andre Smith the OL in Cincy and Mike Wallace. Now that it appears Austin is staying, that eliminates Wallace.
 

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Spencers's replacement won't come from free agency
Its coming from this years draft as probably their #1 draft pick.
 

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Frozen700;5013030 said:
Ware, Carter, Lee, and Carr are better than Spencer.....so please, just stop

Yeah, why didn't you read the entire thread????? So please, just STOP... The thing is I see franchising him as a way of putting a band-aid on at least 1 position for the year so it allows you to focus in on addressing areas such as DT/S/G/T in the draft. 2012 Spencer was the best player on defense & came through in the clutch time after time down the stretch & had a solid 2011 season as well. Spencer is durable and you can count on him being out there down after down & he has proven to play his butt off the past 2 years on a 1 year deal.
 

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UncFelix28;5012938 said:
I think it is pretty doable if we cut Connor, & restructure Scandrick/Ratliff.. Do you want your best defensive player back next year again on a 1 year deal, or are you ready to move on as a fan?
there is another option. you could sign him which is much cheaper
 

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Jarv;5013068 said:
Pretty much agree with this (tag and trade), except if we don't get any bites maybe pull the tag or cut him before the season starts, if that is allowed?

I am in total agreement for the tag and trade, we can't let valuable assets walk with no compensation...
 

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LittleD;5013061 said:
There are viable alternatives to Spencer that might cost a lot less while providing the help we need at DE.

My choice, if he indeed hits the market, is Israel Idonije from the Bears...
The coaches will know a great deal about how to use this DE in our new scheme and he can sack as well as Spencer. My guess is that he can be had for half the money Spencer is going to demand.

Just shake the trees, no need to pile on more wasted dollars on 1 year wonders....
if the [position was only about sacks. the do have about the same number of sacks over the last 3 year, not so close over their careers.l but a ton less tackles. is tackles not important also? i mean you give up over half the tackles form the position
 

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conner01;5013119 said:
if the [position was only about sacks. the do have about the same number of sacks over the last 3 year, not so close over their careers.l but a ton less tackles. is tackles not important also? i mean you give up over half the tackles form the position

The bears defense was 3 times better than ours. Marrinelli can coach him up and we don't have to spend ourselves into bankruptcy. We can't afford to have all pros at every position. The LB's will make the tackles in the 4-3 so lets just get him and let Spencer go. If he goes we will probaly get a 3rd round pick for him depending on contract he gets.
 

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Hardline;5013088 said:
Spencers's replacement won't come from free agency
Its coming from this years draft as probably their #1 draft pick.

What about Crawford?
 

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TheRomoSexual;5013048 said:
I'm still hoping for the franchise-trade scenario. I do like Spencer, but for a second, I'd certainly part with him.

Bingo...we have a winner....this is an area the Cowboys truly SUCK at....and need to improve at...Jerry Jones has no poker face when it comes to trading players...the entire NFL knows the Cowboys cant afford Spencer or will release other players....while other teams IE the Bengals, Patriots are able to get high draft picks for aging players..ALA Carson Palmer, Richard Seymore and others.... Yes the Cowboys will trade but they are always on the losing end....ALA Roy Williams or Joey Gallaway trades.....

Need to get the GM busy making deals for old worn out players instead of releasing them for nothing....

Bottom line: the GM gets to attached to his players, loyalty is great but Championships are BETTER
 

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He's 29 and about to head downhill. It's happening rapidly with Ware, too. Ratliff's big contract that Jerry gave him at an advanced age.

Just don't commit years to him. Franchise, trade, or let him walk...I'm fine with it.
 

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Rather have Michael Johnson from the Bengals. If we are going to spend big money on an DE, it might as well be on a legit 4-3 DE.
 

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TheRat;5013158 said:
Rather have Michael Johnson from the Bengals. If we are going to spend big money on an DE, it might as well be on a legit 4-3 DE.

I think the Bengals said they were going franchise him.
 

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Woods;5013161 said:
I think the Bengals said they were going franchise him.
Then I'll take Andre Smith, thank you very much.
 

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Somebody in this thread said Carr is better than spencer. And better than him last year too!!!

Hahahahahahaha

Thanks for the laugh
 

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UncFelix28;5012998 said:
What mid-tier FA's would you go after then bknight? If you are going to be able to get above 12-13 mil, I see it as a must to franchise Spencer. He is way more valuable than a couple guys who would most likely be playing on situational downs.

If we can't reach a new deal with Spencer, I would draft his replacement at 18 and sign a G like Levitre, Vasquez or Thomas. Maybe sign a DT like Glenn Dorsey or someone similar. I would then address S, OLB and RB in the rest of the draft.
 

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Does anybody think that paying a good player a premium price (Franchise Tag) a good idea? I don't... If he doesn't sign a fair contract let him go or better yet trade him..
 

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Vinnie2u;5013234 said:
Does anybody think that paying a good player a premium price (Franchise Tag) a good idea? I don't... If he doesn't sign a fair contract let him go or better yet trade him..

I do think he is more valuable than signing a couple mid-tier FA's, but if you don't want him back then I agree with the others when it comes to the tag&trade.. I am thinking we would at least get a 3 for him, would be nice if it was a 2.
 
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