Who would you take at 16# in this scenario

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1-Manziel Hou
2-Matthews St.L
3-Bortles Jack
4-Bridgewater CLE
5-Clowney OAK
6-Robinson ATL
7-Lewan Tamp
8-Carr Minn
9- Mack Buff
10-Gilbert Det
11-Nix Tenn.
12-Barr NY
13-Evans ST.L
14-Donald Bears
15- Pryor- Pitt
16-
No trade downs- who do you take? - For me: Martin
Best Left
Watkins WR - charact./height issues drops out of top 10
Dennard CB -thorpe award winner /enough invested cbs?
CJ M MLB - injury history
Martin OT/OG - plays guard then OT?
Jerinigan DT - where?
HAHa D S - is he better than what you have
Kony DE - maybe the pick/ unimpressive combine lack of years of College production
Ford LB/DE- WLB/3rd down rusher
Shazier LB -WLB
 

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Jernigan or Watkins. Watkins is a really talented kid and plays like a legit high 4.3 low 4.4 guy. He would be be on the top of BPA.
 

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Watkins easily, but since there isn't a snowball's chance of him dropping this far probably Jerrinigan or maybe Martin.
 

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1-Manziel Hou
2-Matthews St.L
3-Bortles Jack
4-Bridgewater CLE
5-Clowney OAK
6-Robinson ATL
7-Lewan Tamp
8-Carr Minn
9- Mack Buff
10-Gilbert Det
11-Nix Tenn.
12-Barr NY
13-Evans ST.L
14-Donald Bears
15- Pryor- Pitt
16-
No trade downs- who do you take? - For me: Martin
Best Left
Watkins WR - charact./height issues drops out of top 10
Dennard CB -thorpe award winner /enough invested cbs?
CJ M MLB - injury history
Martin OT/OG - plays guard then OT?
Jerinigan DT - where?
HAHa D S - is he better than what you have
Kony DE - maybe the pick/ unimpressive combine lack of years of College production
Ford LB/DE- WLB/3rd down rusher
Shazier LB -WLB

Yep, you got it. Martin would be the best choice for the Cowboys in this scenario.
 

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I can't see Watkins dropping that far, but if he did, we give SF a call and say "How about you give us your first and one of your 2nds for the #16 pick?" Then, once that call ends, we call seattle and say "we are going to trade #16 to SF unless you can do better"....rinse and repeat...
 

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I've been hearing great things about Dennard and I've seen mocks with him going in the top 10. If he's truly that talented, I'd probably take him. I don't even want a CB in the 1st which is why I haven't researched him, but if he represented the best value at the time id take him.
He'd add great depth to my secondary and would be even more valuable next season if we decide to cut Carr.
 

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There is always a trade down, I know we might not like the compensation..... but playing by the rules.
and assuming Watkins is in jail (why else would he be there) I'd take Martin,
 

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1-Manziel Hou
2-Matthews St.L
3-Bortles Jack
4-Bridgewater CLE
5-Clowney OAK
6-Robinson ATL
7-Lewan Tamp
8-Carr Minn
9- Mack Buff
10-Gilbert Det
11-Nix Tenn.
12-Barr NY
13-Evans ST.L
14-Donald Bears
15- Pryor- Pitt
16-
No trade downs- who do you take? - For me: Martin
Best Left
Watkins WR - charact./height issues drops out of top 10
Dennard CB -thorpe award winner /enough invested cbs?
CJ M MLB - injury history
Martin OT/OG - plays guard then OT?
Jerinigan DT - where?
HAHa D S - is he better than what you have
Kony DE - maybe the pick/ unimpressive combine lack of years of College production
Ford LB/DE- WLB/3rd down rusher
Shazier LB -WLB

Martin and would consider Shazier or Ford but love a trade down for low 1st and grab a mid 2nd
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Yep, you got it. Martin would be the best choice for the Cowboys in this scenario.

I think Martin is a little overrated. He is probably the most ready now of the potential OL after the top 3, but IMO, some of the lower ranked guys have equal or greater upside.
 

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Zack Martin or trade down for someone pitching a tent over Sammy Watkins dropping.
 

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I think Martin is a little overrated. He is probably the most ready now of the potential OL after the top 3, but IMO, some of the lower ranked guys have equal or greater upside.

Do you not think Martin is better or would be better than Free and/or Bernadeau?
 

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1-Manziel Hou
2-Matthews St.L
3-Bortles Jack
4-Bridgewater CLE
5-Clowney OAK
6-Robinson ATL
7-Lewan Tamp
8-Carr Minn
9- Mack Buff
10-Gilbert Det
11-Nix Tenn.
12-Barr NY
13-Evans ST.L
14-Donald Bears
15- Pryor- Pitt
16-
No trade downs- who do you take? - For me: Martin
Best Left
Watkins WR - charact./height issues drops out of top 10
Dennard CB -thorpe award winner /enough invested cbs?
CJ M MLB - injury history
Martin OT/OG - plays guard then OT?
Jerinigan DT - where?
HAHa D S - is he better than what you have
Kony DE - maybe the pick/ unimpressive combine lack of years of College production
Ford LB/DE- WLB/3rd down rusher
Shazier LB -WLB

Watkins, but he won't drop that far in reality.
 

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Watkins, but he won't drop that far in reality.

No way with current information on him does he drop this far down the ladder. He is the no brainer along with Clowney is this draft with current information. With your options I would trade back.
 

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Do you not think Martin is better or would be better than Free and/or Bernadeau?

I'm more concerned about how the rates compared to other guys in this draft. I think his best position is OG. At Guard, I'm not sure his upside is any higher than a guy like Xavier Su'a-Filo. If you were considering him for OT, I would prefer Morgan Moses. IMO, this draft is loaded with OL and definitely at OG. I think there will be a larger number of mid to later round OGs that are starting within a year.

I see the value of Martin as a ready now player. Since the Cowboys have a reasonable starting lineup, I would just go with guys that have equal or higher upsides but are not as ready to play from day 1 as Martin.
 

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I'm more concerned about how the rates compared to other guys in this draft. I think his best position is OG. At Guard, I'm not sure his upside is any higher than a guy like Xavier Su'a-Filo. If you were considering him for OT, I would prefer Morgan Moses. IMO, this draft is loaded with OL and definitely at OG. I think there will be a larger number of mid to later round OGs that are starting within a year.

I see the value of Martin as a ready now player. Since the Cowboys have a reasonable starting lineup, I would just go with guys that have equal or higher upsides but are not as ready to play from day 1 as Martin.

I see what you're saying and it makes sense.

I really like Xavier Su'a-Filo a lot. I think he's going to be an anchor on someone's offensive line for a long time and wish it could be us.
 

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I'm more concerned about how the rates compared to other guys in this draft. I think his best position is OG. At Guard, I'm not sure his upside is any higher than a guy like Xavier Su'a-Filo. If you were considering him for OT, I would prefer Morgan Moses. IMO, this draft is loaded with OL and definitely at OG. I think there will be a larger number of mid to later round OGs that are starting within a year.

I see the value of Martin as a ready now player. Since the Cowboys have a reasonable starting lineup, I would just go with guys that have equal or higher upsides but are not as ready to play from day 1 as Martin.

You could argue that the WR position is deep also, and Watkins could drop because of a MJ+Pills bust that others draftees at the position just did not have. Martin offers more than Xavier and Moses in that he can be an OT and a ZB OG.
 

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You could argue that the WR position is deep also, and Watkins could drop because of a MJ+Pills bust that others draftees at the position just did not have. Martin offers more than Xavier and Moses in that he can be an OT and a ZB OG.

Yes, many believe that WR is the deepest position in this draft.

Martin can only play 1 position at a time. It's not as if they are going to go to a game with only 1 backup OLineman. They're going to have a backup OT and a backup Interior guy even if Martin could play all 5 positions.
 
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