Why Are People Not Livid About Mara's Penalty?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

For the last week, every thread has been mired in a discussion about how the Joneses suck at managing the cap and they should fire themselves because they have failed us and we should quit and blow up the team and how we are doomed to failure blah blah blah.

Not a peep about the penalty we incurred around this time last year for not breaking any rules. Remember that?

What I do not get is why is their no ire about John Mara. Why not guys? I think that $10m in extra cap room would look mighty nice right about now.

Thoughts?

 

[Zordon]

b/c our beloved owner doesn't care.

 

[Vertigo_17]

We got screwed but JJ knows where his bread is buttered. He'll eventually get another SB which will overcome the penalty/loss. Just my $.02

 

[ScipioCowboy]

What is there to discuss, really?

You can discuss the ways in which Jerry has failed and succeeded with the team. There's only so many different ways you can lament a wrong.

 

[JustDezIt]

i guess because there is nothing we can do about it. but then again, im not one of the ones complaining so i cant speak for them. i think its pretty clear that we had planned to have that 5 mil in flexibility at this point and possibly more rolled over from last year.

 

[Risen Star]

Because that 5 million dollars last year and this year doesn't change the fact we are woefully mismanaged by our front office. You don't get into cap hell like this because of a minor dent like that.

I guess I don't mention it because I'm not looking to avoid the truth.

 

[skinsscalper]

People are too busy stuffing sand in their privates about the "dysfunction of the organization" to actually associate any real world application for some of the difficulties we are experiencing in this season's particular off-season activity (or lack thereof).

I'm no Jerry Jones champion by any stretch of the imagination, but it's getting old. Jerry sucks, water is wet, blah, blah, blah. Has Jones done a bit of digging his own grave as far as where we stand with the cap? Sure. So has New Orleans, Carolina, and Washington. $5 million in extra cap space would make a hell of a lot of difference right now.

What's really pathetic is the lack of balls put on by Snyder and Jones in response to a "judgement" that would surely be ripped to shreds in a courtroom. You have to think at some point that the league is going to need some cooperation from both Jones and Snyder regarding a league matter (specifically, league wide profit sharing) where Jones and Snyder remind the league of their lynch mob treatment and they both tell the league to: "Take a flying leap. Start generating your own revenue". Good luck Cincinnati, Jacksonville and a host of others.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

What is there to discuss, really?

You can discuss the ways in which Jerry has failed and succeeded with the team. There's only so many different ways you can lament a wrong.

We've belabored 'I'm depressed about this team,' 'I am tired of the pessimism,' 'This is the worst offseason ever' and the like for a month. The threads change but not the topic.

I am just curious in the 1000's of posts that have been dedicated to that has none of that ire been focused elsewhere.

For example if we had $10m more in cap space would you be as depressed or thinking this was the worst? Not saying that you yourself are but I think you get my point.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Because that 5 million dollars last year and this year doesn't change the fact we are woefully mismanaged by our front office. You don't get into cap hell like this because of a minor dent like that.

I guess I don't mention it because I'm not looking to avoid the truth.

Yea, our problems are deeper than Mara screwing us over.

 

[skinsscalper]

Because that 5 million dollars last year and this year doesn't change the fact we are woefully mismanaged by our front office. You don't get into cap hell like this because of a minor dent like that.

I guess I don't mention it because I'm not looking to avoid the truth.

You're right. Another 5 million this season (specifically right now) would do little to help shore up these trenches we're all so adamant about improving.



I would take that "minor dent" in a heartbeat right now. Only an idiot wouldn't want that extra $5 million in cap space right this minute.

 

[Zordon]

We've belabored 'I'm depressed about this team,' 'I am tired of the pessimism,' 'This is the worst offseason ever' and the like for a month. The threads change but not the topic.

I am just curious in the 1000's of posts that have been dedicated to that has none of that ire been focused elsewhere.

For example if we had $10m more in cap space would you be as depressed or thinking this was the worst? Not saying that you yourself are but I think you get my point.

I am depressed that our owner doesn't feel it necessary to fight for $10 million in cap space. I think most of us agree that it was a harsh penalty. But what's the point of discussing it if the ultimate decision maker has chosen to walk away from the fight?

Seriously...10M is two free agent pick ups...that's two of our holes filled....that's two less needs headed into the draft. I think the better question is why isn't Jerry more livid about this?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Because that 5 million dollars last year and this year doesn't change the fact we are woefully mismanaged by our front office. You don't get into cap hell like this because of a minor dent like that.

I guess I don't mention it because I'm not looking to avoid the truth.

If we had $10m in cap space I am sorry but your whining would not have any merit whatsoever. We both know you have little to no knowledge of the accounting stance or adjustments that can or cannot be made in cap years to come so quit fronting. You are whining in the here and now.

$10m in cap space without that penalty is an objective truth. 'Mismanagement' and other cliches are simplifications so you can point a finger. If you spoke about specifics regarding the team it owuld be the first time.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

And lets talk about facts.

fact
/fakt
A thing that is indisputably the case.
Information used as evidence or as part of a report or news article.

"the fact we are woefully mismanaged by our front office" is melodrama.

mel·o·dra·mat·ic
/ˌmelədrəˈmatik/

Of or relating to melodrama.
Characteristic of melodrama, esp. in being exaggerated, sensationalized, or overemotional.

a fact is something along the lines of Demarcus Ware ran a 4.56 at the 2005 combine. All you are doing is trying to appeal to peoples emotion such as to get people to agree with your premise. That is the farthest thing from a 'fact' that there is.

 

[LatinMind]

i guess because there is nothing we can do about it. but then again, im not one of the ones complaining so i cant speak for them. i think its pretty clear that we had planned to have that 5 mil in flexibility at this point and possibly more rolled over from last year.

There is nothing anybody can do about the way the jones' run the team but people still gripe about it. OP has a point. lol

 

[JustDezIt]

There is nothing anybody can do about the way the jones' run the team but people still gripe about it. OP has a point. lol

very true. i guess if you took that stance we wouldnt discuss much because we all have no control over any of it hahah. forgot to tell you thanks for the sig byt the way, am saving it for the season, awesome work as always. inherently by creating the thread, it will now be discussed rendering the original point moot fuzzy? so the real question is, why was it left up to you to bring up so late into free agency discussions? haha im playin wit ya, man i need some sleep.

 

[cowboyvic]

For the last week, every thread has been mired in a discussion about how the Joneses suck at managing the cap and they should fire themselves because they have failed us and we should quit and blow up the team and how we are doomed to failure blah blah blah.

Not a peep about the penalty we incurred around this time last year for not breaking any rules. Remember that?

What I do not get is why is their no ire about John Mara. Why not guys? I think that $10m in extra cap room would look mighty nice right about now.

Thoughts?

I have been mad as hell about it since the day it happen.it is a total outrage.and for Jerry and Snyder to not fight this in a court of law is an outrage too. Jerry and Snyder just bent over and took it without a fight. and i have no respect for the NFLPA anymore for going a long with this. they help destroy the 2 teams that were out there all most every year spending money on players.Mara and Goodell have made cowards out of Jerry and Snyder.notice you have not heard a peep out of either. they can't spend any money now because they don't have any thanks to Mara, who runs the NFL with his bud Goodell.

 

[skinsscalper]

I am depressed that our owner doesn't feel it necessary to fight for $10 million in cap space. I think most of us agree that it was a harsh penalty. But what's the point of discussing it if the ultimate decision maker has chosen to walk away from the fight?

Seriously...10M is two free agent pick ups...that's two of our holes filled....that's two less needs headed into the draft. I think the better question is why isn't Jerry more livid about this?

In all honestly, there are two reasons. The first and biggest is the fact that if Jones and Snyder took this case to court and won (which I'm almost certain that they would) the NFLPA could prove (without a doubt) collusion amongst owners to limit their contingents earning potential. It would mean very little right now because in the current CBA the NFLPA waived it's right of damages incurred by collusion during the last CBA. Where it gains it's teeth (and freaking vicious teeth at that) would be in the NEXT CBA negotioations. The cost to the league would be in the billions in terms of negotiating leverage. It's like disputing a $5.00 charge on your gas bill knowing that in the end your monthly bill is eventually going to triple as a result of your "victory".

The second and most important to Jerry is the fact that he is throwing his hat in the ring to host another Super Bowl. He knows that he would never get the bid if he tossed the league on it's head. Hell he'll make $10 million in concessions alone hosting another Super Bowl. And, whether he admits it publicly or not in his advanced stage of dementia: He wants to be the first owner to host a Super Bowl that his team is actually playing in. That little dream will follow that guy to the grave.

In a nutshell, that's why Danny and (specifically) Jerry have let the whole thing be swept under the rug. Don't underestimate Snyder, though. That guy is going to throw a trump card, at some point, right in the league's face.

 

[LatinMind]

very true. i guess if you took that stance we wouldnt discuss much because we all have no control over any of it hahah. forgot to tell you thanks for the sig byt the way, am saving it for the season, awesome work as always. inherently by creating the thread, it will now be discussed rendering the original point moot fuzzy? so the real question is, why was it left up to you to bring up so late into free agency discussions? haha im playin wit ya, man i need some sleep.

NP glad you liked it

 

[cowboyvic]

We got screwed but JJ knows where his bread is buttered. He'll eventually get another SB which will overcome the penalty/loss. Just my $.02

What about his team? is that not more important than him getting another Super Bowl should that not be the most important thing? not having that 10 million dollars is killing our cap. and you are saying he cares more about a super bowl, than his team getting hurt.

 

[skinsscalper]

NP glad you liked it

Great work, LM. I've got one of your Dez designs as my laptop wallpaper. Good stuff bro.