Why Daryl Johnston says firing Jason Garrett would 'sabotage' the Cowboys

Diehardblues

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But in the end just because they think he can win doesn’t mean he has or will.

And frankly if you look at their track record of hiring coaches, it ain’t the best.
Which is even the better reason not to throw this away just yet. Because of their hiring history.
 

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It really isn’t.

At least, it didn’t help Dez. Or Tony for that matter.

Yes because Dez and Garrett are excellent comps.

You couldn’t have written that with a straight face.
 

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LOL.

Yes they ate. They have a reputation around the SBNation websites as being one of the more biased NFL sites.

Stop.
Dude, he called Irvin a rapist and gets off on being wannabe edgy. He's all bark, bro. Even his own folks call him out in the Fireside Chat dealio

He called Irvin a rapist in 2017.
 

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LOL.

Yes they ate. They have a reputation around the SBNation websites as being one of the more biased NFL sites.

Stop.
I’m still more apt to listen to those closer to the situation than national writers , ESPN or some anonymous fans on the Internet. And why I’ve always followed the local beat writers. They’re critical but fair.
 

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Theres been something positive going on with the Cowboys for several years despite Jerry. And those closer to the situation credit Garrett.

All that’s left for all to support him is more success as the results on the field is the only measurement they have.
 

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They do. They think Garrett is a mediocre head coach who will never win a SB for the Cowboys.

Not fans I know, they see us as their only threat. Until last year they didn’t think
Pederson wouldn’t win, before that they thought Reid and Kelly would win. Says a lot about them, huh?
 

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Its a committee thing? And what do you think that means? They all get a vote?


Think? This is known. Jerry and Stephen still have final say but for the most part it’s run by a committee of coaches and scouts...
 

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Not fans I know, they see us as their only threat. Until last year they didn’t think
Pederson wouldn’t win, before that they thought Reid and Kelly would win. Says a lot about them, huh?

Yeah it’s says they are probably not much smarter than our fans who have convinced themselves Garrett has Super Bowl winning potential.
 

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Yes because Dez and Garrett are excellent comps.

You couldn’t have written that with a straight face.

In the rabbit hole you’re trying to play in right now, they actually are very good comps. I’m not the one trying to build an argument on Jerry’s personal attachments here.
 

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Garrett may have had other opportunities when Jerry hired him as a $3,000,000 a year Assistant Head Coach. If he got fired from the Cowboys, he would never be a head coach in the NFL again. His only out is to be promoted within the organization. He's at $6,000,000 a year now? Jerry likes to pay the man.
 

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He’s kept them winning while rebuilding
Garrett’s 67-53 record as head coach impresses no one. Of his seven seasons, only two resulted in NFC East titles with only one playoff victory to show for it. While it’s fair to point out these less than spectacular results, you have to recognize what has been going on with this organization over the last several years. Garrett has completely remade this team. Sean Lee and L.P. Ladoucer are the only two players who were on the team prior to Garrett becoming the head coach. That’s a 96% turnover.

The Cowboys have stayed in contention every year other than the 2015 debacle where Romo went down and the team had no answer at backup QB, Garrett’s Cowboys have always given us fans a reason to have hope in December.
 

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Yeah it’s says they are probably not much smarter than our fans who have convinced themselves Garrett has Super Bowl winning potential.
It not about being convinced, because neither side knows if he does or doesn’t, which is why until the FO makes a change, the opportunity for him to prove he can is still there.
 

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Many fans will claim Garrett has had all the tools he’s needed to make the Cowboys a winner, but just doesn’t have the coaching ability to get it done. Make no mistake about it, the Cowboys have built themselves a squad with many great players, but are you sure they have enough? For years this defense has been a liability, and in some cases of historic proportions. If you look back at those disappointing playoff losses or some heartbreaking defeats in the regular season, you’re going to find one common denominator in all of them - a defensive collapse.

While it’s easy to say all the pieces were in place, we could be kidding ourselves. Many of us see those 8-8 seasons as mediocre and underachieving, but what they should be seeing is a team that was rebuilding and remained competitive despite having some serious holes on defense. The good news is the holes are being filled.
 

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Winning starts when an owner stays out of the kitchen and the GM delegates authority, with autonomy (whether it be GM/Coach ala Belichick/JJohnson, or an Ozzie-type pure GM, as examples). None of this round table nonsense. We draft well, but we win poorly. Something has got to give. Give McClay the keys? L.Vital? Anyone but Stephen Jerry Jones. All they have proven is pure ineptitude. Fat head Stephen, included.

As an aside, damn what a fat head. Where da brains, doe, in that noggin?


I don’t disagree with the premise but Jerry runs this thing like a business which it is and he’s not going to completely relinquish the keys until he gets tired or dies, but even then it appears Stephen the boob, is his successor...
 

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LOL.

Yes they are. They have a reputation around the SBNation websites as being one of the more biased NFL sites.

Stop.

And who’s sbnation? Of course if they’re opinion doesn’t line up with yours, you call them biased. ...lol
 

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It’s weird how the players and the people who know him all say he’s a good coach, and the people who judge him solely on the team’s W/L record, er, the team’s playoff W/L record mostly don’t think he’s a good coach.

I wonder if there’s maybe a lesson to be learned there. Probably not.
If you know a single thing about the NFL and how it works, it is based on nepotism.

It is pretty much an established fact when children of coaches get coaching spots based on exactly zero experience.

It is who knows who. What guy knows that guy.

I find it kind of pathetic that you would use this as a defense for Garrett.

He checks all the boxes. Father was this guy. Knew this guy, worked for that guy, paid his dues for this other guy.

Please. Try to peddle that he earned his head coaching spot otherwise.
 

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And who’s sbnation? Of course if they’re opinion doesn’t line up with yours, you call them biased. ...lol
There’s basically a small minority of fans bashing Garrett. They’re just very vocal . Reminds me of the Romo bashing .

The majority of fans while addressing their concerns of his weaknesses and Game Day gaffs do recognize his other assets to the team and his positive influence with Jerry, the better decisions, team we’re building and culture change overall.

Has it produced all of the results we’d like ? No, but without a sounder solution most aren’t ready to abort how far we’ve come for the unknown. Will there need to be greater results at some point? Time will tell.
 

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Think? This is known. Jerry and Stephen still have final say but for the most part it’s run by a committee of coaches and scouts...

Wait. Help me understand here.

Are we to believe there is this "committee of coaches and scouts" that have power?

Ultimately, it has to go through the wax-ridden ear of a Jones, rumble inside this head and then come out the other side, hopefully in a coherent sentence in the English language.

Then their mouth starts working.

The fact they all "listen" is irrelevant.

How their brains process the information is entirely relevant.
 

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There’s basically a small minority of fans bashing Garrett. They’re just very vocal . Reminds me of the Romo bashing .

The majority of fans while addressing their concerns of his weaknesses and Game Day gaffs do recognize his other assets to the team and his positive influence with Jerry, the better decisions, team we’re building and culture change overall.

Has it produced all of the results we’d like ? No, but without a sounder solution most aren’t ready to abort how far we’ve come for the unknown. Will there need to be greater results at some point? Time will tell.
Of the dozens of Cowboys fans I am personally friends with only one thinks Garrett is a decent coach and he has waffled on it many times.
 
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