Why did Jerry choose Schotty over Vrabel and Johnson?

[Cas2800]

Jerry wanted a "Players Coach" to keep up the Country Club atmosphere for players like Parsons and Diggs. Remind me how its all worked out.

 

[Coogiguy03]

This!!! When people say "Dak is hardly the issue"....this is the kind of stuff they ignore!!!

Exactly!!!! He's been here a few years with Dak Dak said yeah so did Jerry lol

 

[Chasing6]

Because Jerry long ago stopped hiring serious HCs based on who gives us the BEST chance to win. He doesn’t even interview them.

Jerry hires HCs based on who makes him feel comfortable. He is uncomfortable with any HC who could possibly outshine him or take away any of his coveted “credit”.

We won’t have a seriously talented HC until he’s gone.

Jerry did not like sitting on the sideline listening.

 

[stiletto]

Jerry did not like sitting on the sideline listening.

It's a shame Parcells was past his prime. He probably could've won with Romo and a couple more years to fix the defense properly.

 

[Zekeats]

Last off season, many of us wanted Mike Vrabel or Ben Johnson for head coach. But Jerry gave us Schotty instead.

Less than 1 year later, Vrabel and Johnson are now 2-0 in the playoffs, while Schotty never did anything to earn a head coaching gig in the first place.

Oh what might have been…

Because he wants to die a mediocre loser like he has been for the past 30 years.

 

[Zekeats]

Jerry is a fall down drunk narcissist piece of white trash. Go ask his daughter born out of wedlock. He speaks so much about Charlotte but can't own his little prick mistakes.

Jerry did not like sitting on the sideline listening.

 

[KingCorcoran]

This is really the only answer.

There is no possible logical explaination that Jerry could attempt to give for why Schotty was the best hire over Ben Johnson and Vrabel. There just isn't.

He just wanted a coach that he could push around and would be thrilled to just have the job.

Perhaps Jerry did express an interest in Johnson and Vrabel and they told Jerry they were not interested in working for him. They both chose teams that had lost 13 games. They both, with 2nd year quarterbacks, flipped their teams into 13 win teams.

Jerry hired Eberflus, and then found a head coach timid enough to go along with it to get along.

 

[SiCk_DiAbLo]

Schotty is to friendly, need a hard nosed coach...Has anyone seen him mad??

 

[DandyDon52]

Did Jerry have a legitimate shot at either? Just because you want a coach doesn't mean he's going to pick you if he has option. Vrabel got the opportunity to coach the team he played for with a young QB. Johnson got the opportunity to coach a team that had accumulated a lot of early-round talent, including a young QB.

Now, there was no reason for Jerry to not pursue them (if he didn't), but interest has to be two-sided.

yes plus I read that Ben his first choice was chicago, and he would only take another job if he couldnt get that one. It was the same with vrabel.
Plus with either of those you have a real GM and a owner that doesnt meddle and constantly do PC's lol.
Most coaches with another choice have no reason to work for jerry.

 

[gimmesix]

yes plus I read that Ben his first choice was chicago, and he would only take another job if he couldnt get that one. It was the same with vrabel.
Plus with either of those you have a real GM and a owner that doesnt meddle and constantly do PC's lol.
Most coaches with another choice have no reason to work for jerry.

That may be true, but I do think there are some coaches that would have gladly come here if the timing had been right. I think Sean Payton is one of those. Bill Belichick, too. Of course, Payton would have cost us some picks like he did the Broncos. And Belichick just wanted some NFL team to offer him HC job even though he had taken a college job. Both of those coaches, I believe, have a positive view of the Joneses.

 

[My3Sons]

Did Jerry have a legitimate shot at either? Just because you want a coach doesn't mean he's going to pick you if he has option. Vrabel got the opportunity to coach the team he played for with a young QB. Johnson got the opportunity to coach a team that had accumulated a lot of early-round talent, including a young QB.

Now, there was no reason for Jerry to not pursue them (if he didn't), but interest has to be two-sided.

Posts like this make little sense to me. Coaches and player movement is very transactional. There are exceptions, but very few.

The bigger bag wins the day and most every agent will tell you that.

Jerry can hire whoever he wants, but won't spend the money.

So, every interview he does talking about all he wants to do is win, know that is a total lie.

 

[gimmesix]

Posts like this make little sense to me. Coaches and player movement is very transactional. There are exceptions, but very few.

The bigger bag wins the day and most every agent will tell you that.

Jerry can hire whoever he wants, but won't spend the money.

So, every interview he does talking about all he wants to do is win, know that is a total lie.

Obviously, every person wants to get paid as much as they can get paid, but coaches aren't stupid, they are also going to look for the best opportunity for success. Sure, if one team is throwing a lot more money at them than another, they are probably going to take the money. But unless there's a huge difference, a smart coach is going to take the best situation, and having a young first-round QB to build around is the best situation.

Fans get caught up with what Jerry will or won't spend, but I don't know if that has affected his ability to hire anyone. I think he just spend what it takes, so he's not going to make a coach like No-Schott one of the highest-paid head coaches when he's giving him his first shot at proving himself.

A better example might be Dan Quinn. He had an opportunity to leave for a head coaching job after his first couple of years here, but Jerry gave him a raise to stay and he waited. Now, part of the reason is he was waiting for the right opportunity, but Jerry rewarded him for both his loyalty and his success those first couple of years.

 

[conner01]

DAK!!!!! It's all about what made him happy

Doubt that

 

[conner01]

cheaper

Certainly a factor but more he wants credit and proven HC woukd get the credit he desires instead of him

 

[gimmesix]

It's a shame Parcells was past his prime. He probably could've won with Romo and a couple more years to fix the defense properly.

I think so. He was the first coach that Jerry respected enough to allow him (mostly) to build the team. Jerry also hadn't gone cheap in free agency yet, so he was willing to add players like Owens. Even though Owens may not have been a Parcells' pick, he signed off on it and also got to bring in multiple Friends of Bill and have a strong say in the draft direction.

 

[kevinhickey]

Last off season, many of us wanted Mike Vrabel or Ben Johnson for head coach. But Jerry gave us Schotty instead.

Less than 1 year later, Vrabel and Johnson are now 2-0 in the playoffs, while Schotty never did anything to earn a head coaching gig in the first place.

Oh what might have been…

The other two wanted some imput into how things need to be changed. Jerry felt intimidated and passed.

 

[MikeT22]

Because Jerry long ago stopped hiring serious HCs based on who gives us the BEST chance to win. He doesn’t even interview them.

Jerry hires HCs based on who makes him feel comfortable. He is uncomfortable with any HC who could possibly outshine him or take away any of his coveted “credit”.

We won’t have a seriously talented HC until he’s gone.

Bingo!

 

[My3Sons]

Obviously, every person wants to get paid as much as they can get paid, but coaches aren't stupid, they are also going to look for the best opportunity for success. Sure, if one team is throwing a lot more money at them than another, they are probably going to take the money. But unless there's a huge difference, a smart coach is going to take the best situation, and having a young first-round QB to build around is the best situation.

Fans get caught up with what Jerry will or won't spend, but I don't know if that has affected his ability to hire anyone. I think he just spend what it takes, so he's not going to make a coach like No-Schott one of the highest-paid head coaches when he's giving him his first shot at proving himself.

A better example might be Dan Quinn. He had an opportunity to leave for a head coaching job after his first couple of years here, but Jerry gave him a raise to stay and he waited. Now, part of the reason is he was waiting for the right opportunity, but Jerry rewarded him for both his loyalty and his success those first couple of years.

LOL. Using your example, Dan Quinn's seat is hot. This will be his last year In DC when he finishes 3rd or worse in the East. This is why most take the money. It is unusual for a coach or player to take less money anywhere.

 

[gimmesix]

LOL. Using your example, Dan Quinn's seat is hot. This will be his last year In DC when he finishes 3rd or worse in the East. This is why most take the money. It is unusual for a coach or player to take less money anywhere.

Not sure what Quinn being on a hot seat has to do with what I said. I agreed that if there is a vast difference in the money, then coaches (like players) are going to follow the money. But coaches also consider each situation. Quinn, again, is an example of this. He had head coaching opportunities after his second season in Dallas, but returned to the Cowboys because he got a raise and he didn't think those opportunities were the best. According to reports, he was offered the Carolina Panthers head coaching job but elected to stay in Dallas. Now, I can't say whether he got offered more money to stay in Dallas or more to be Carolina's head coach.

 

[Kwyn]

Jerry sees himself as the head coach of this team.

To value actual coaches, both with the respect they deserve and the money due, would mean he has to actually see that they can do something he can’t.

It’s simply his contempt for coaching in general.

Remember, he could find 500 guys to coach the Cowboys.