Why didn't we go after Vilma?

[Achozen]

He's gonna be a Saint for a Conditional 2009 pick.

Instead, we're stuck with old man Thomas.

 

[Pabst]

Thomas didn't cost any draft picks.

Plus I hear there are questions about Vilma's knees. Although, better your knee than your head, I suppose..

 

[Nightman]

they got rid of him because he wasn't a good fit in the 3-4.

 

[TheCount]

they got rid of him because he wasn't a good fit in the 3-4.

How's that? He had been tearing it up for 3 years before he got hurt last year.

 

[Rampage]

How's that? He had been tearing it up for 3 years before he got hurt last year.

i heard the same thing. word was he couldn't grasp what he was supposed to be doing all the time. which is a problem if he is giving defensive signals to the front 7

 

[Achozen]

Thomas didn't cost any draft picks.

Plus I hear there are questions about Vilma's knees. Although, better your knee than your head, I suppose..

I wouldn't mind trading a future pick for a potential Pro Bowler.

 

[Achozen]

i heard the same thing. word was he couldn't grasp what he was supposed to be doing all the time. which is a problem if he is giving defensive signals to the front 7

He could have taken Akin's spot and let James deal with giving defensive signals.

 

[NeonNinja]

There is fear Vilma's knee is worse then expected.

 

[Big Dakota]

He's gonna be a Saint for a Conditional 2009 pick.

Instead, we're stuck with old man Thomas.

Not to be a smart arse, but lets use the Spag's reasoning here(and i'm not a fan of spags reasoning, but here it applies).

If he was soooo good why would the team that drafted him #12 overall just 4 years ago let him go?

#1. He suffered a bad knee injury and had surgery 4 months ago.

#2. He fell off sharply in 2006 after a stellar 2005 season. (55 less TKLS) and was injured this year(and still is)

#3. It's not like he makes a ton of plays outside of TKLS. He averages 1 forced fumble per year and 1.5 INT per year and has has 2 sacks in his career and has 1 TD in his career.

 

[Temo]

Alright- quick lesson from a guy who lives in NYC and follows the Jets closely (I got some puppy love for that team, I just like 'em, don't know why). Vilma WAS HORRIBLE in the 3-4 last year. He just couldn't play well and the Jet's run defense took a big step up after he got injured. In fact, the defense as a whole got a lot better after he left.

People here still love Vilma, but they are all willing to let him go and try his luck in elsewhere because he simply could not work in Mangini's 3-4.

 

[alancdc]

Not to be a smart arse, but lets use the Spag's reasoning here(and i'm not a fan of spags reasoning, but here it applies).

If he was soooo good why would the team that drafted him #12 overall just 4 years ago let him go?

#1. He suffered a bad knee injury and had surgery 4 months ago.

#2. He fell off sharply in 2006 after a stellar 2005 season. (55 less TKLS) and was injured this year(and still is)

#3. It's not like he makes a ton of plays outside of TKLS. He averages 1 forced fumble per year and 1.5 INT per year and has has 2 sacks in his career and has 1 TD in his career.

...and if teams were lining up to sign him why would the Jets jump on a deal with only the conditional pick? Wouldn't they wait to see who didn't get a backer in FA and maybe have more leverage.

 

[Gordon]

How's that? He had been tearing it up for 3 years before he got hurt last year.

Jets just switched to the 3-4 in 2006. There was a significant drop in his play when he switched from 4-3 to 3-4.

 

[montgod]

we could have had the 3 muskateers in Glenn, Walker (if obtained), and Vilma.

Shoot... the Saints ruined the plan!

:laugh2:

 

[AsthmaField]

Also, the Saints offered Zach Thomas a contract and when they failed to land him... THEN they went out and traded for Vilma. They tried to do what we did first, though.

That probably means the Saints would rather have had Thomas at a cheaper price and for no draft picks.

I think we did fine.

 

[This is Our Year]

He's gonna be a Saint for a Conditional 2009 pick.

Instead, we're stuck with old man Thomas.

Because the reason the Jets traded him was because he doesn't fit in a 3-4 scheme.