Why do we need to draft a RB in the 1st rd

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If Marion Barber is our franchise back and will reportedly receive a 5 yr 25 million dollar contract why in the world are we taking a RB in the 1st when it is one of the deepest position in the draft? I see alot of people want Mendenhall, Jones or Stewart in the 1st.

Would the Chargers take a RB in the 1st knowing that Tomlinson is there? Would the Rams do it to Steven Jackson? Why do we want to do it to Barber?

I really want to get the consensus on this because I respect a lot of you guys opinion. Thoughts?
 

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I think Barber's extremely physical play can eventually lead to some touch injuries. I feel the Cowboys need a second talented rb that can slash a defense after Barber knocks a LB down and stomps on his chest in route to a first down.

Granted, it seems lately teams have had a lot of luck finding some gems in the later rounds. Personally I want a cb that can be a full-time punt returner with one of the first round picks.
 

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Someone like Rice or Slaton should be there in the Second.
 

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Goldenrichards83;1948813 said:
If Marion Barber is our franchise back and will reportedly receive a 5 yr 25 million dollar contract why in the world are we taking a RB in the 1st when it is one of the deepest position in the draft? I see alot of people want Mendenhall, Jones or Stewart in the 1st.

Would the Chargers take a RB in the 1st knowing that Tomlinson is there? Would the Rams do it to Steven Jackson? Why do we want to do it to Barber?

I really want to get the consensus on this because I respect a lot of you guys opinion. Thoughts?

Not saying we do need to draft one in the first, because you are right this is a deep class, but its a two RB league now and the only thing that Barber really hasn't proved is that he can carry the load as the primary back all season, especially given his running style.

Plus if he goes down, you want Tyson Thompson in there?

With the exit of Julius we clearly need another quality back on the roster.
 

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I agree with you. I don't understand why everyone wants to spend a 1st rounder on a RB to play behind MB3. We proved this season that we only need an average backup (ie Julius Jones) in order to field a good running game. Get a guy in the middle rounds.
 

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I'd make the argument that you picked two teams with backs proven to be better than Barber at this point. I hope I don't have to argue with anyone about Tomlinson. Jackson at least has shown the ability to do 20 carry/game seasons.

I'm not against Barber, I'm just saying depsite the probowl nod this year keep in mind what hes done.
 

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wileedog;1948835 said:
Not saying we do need to draft one in the first, because you are right this is a deep class, but its a two RB league now and the only thing that Barber really hasn't proved is that he can carry the load as the primary back all season, especially given his running style.

Plus if he goes down, you want Tyson Thompson in there?

With the exit of Julius we clearly need another quality back on the roster.


Perfect answer.

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wileedog;1948835 said:
Not saying we do need to draft one in the first, because you are right this is a deep class, but its a two RB league now and the only thing that Barber really hasn't proved is that he can carry the load as the primary back all season, especially given his running style.

Plus if he goes down, you want Tyson Thompson in there?

With the exit of Julius we clearly need another quality back on the roster.

I'll be shocked if Thompson is back.
 

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i would like a link to where it says where signing MB3 to a 5 year 25 million dollar deal. Lets say stephen jackson and LT has ran for over 1500 yards in a single season and you dare to compare MB3 to them what a shame these MB3 fanboys get worse and worse. The better quality the running back the less load MB3 has to carry mess less carries which translates to a longer career
 

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wileedog;1948835 said:
Not saying we do need to draft one in the first, because you are right this is a deep class, but its a two RB league now and the only thing that Barber really hasn't proved is that he can carry the load as the primary back all season, especially given his running style.

Plus if he goes down, you want Tyson Thompson in there?

With the exit of Julius we clearly need another quality back on the roster.
I think Thompson is gone this year but guys like Ray Rice, Tashard Choice, Chris Johnson could be had in the 2nd and I personally think they are just as good as Jones or Stewart. CB and WR should be our 1st rders.
 

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DaBoys4Life;1948844 said:
i would like a link to where it says where signing MB3 to a 5 year 25 million dollar deal. Lets say Stephen Jackson and LT has ran for over 1500 yards in a single season and you dare to compare MB3 to them what a shame these MB3 fanboys get worse and worse. The better quality the running back the less load MB3 has to carry mess less carries which translates to a longer career
Not a fanboy just a fan of the Cowboys and there's no link as you already know but those numbers was thrown around as far as what we were thinking of paying him. MB3 had almost a 1,000 yds playing part-time is it too much of a stretch to think he won't come close to any of those numbers you suggested? Besides if and when we sign him we are signing him as our franchise back and the quality that will be in the 1st doesn't dwarf what the quality will be in the 2nd.
 

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I think it is completely possible we draft a guy later than the 2nd round, maybe as late as the 4th or 5th.
 

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Yeagermeister;1948840 said:
I'll be shocked if Thompson is back.

Me too, but that just further makes the point as there really isn't anyone behind him either. And signing a FA like Turner doesn't make much sense either given the strong RB class.

Would love to get Rice or Jones in the 2nd.
 

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Barber isn't Tomlinson or Jackson. Barber is a beast but those other franchise backs have one thing he doesn't and never will....... speed. The offense is lacking speed and is aging at WR. Dallas wants to be elite they had better upgrade the speed at RB or WR, preferably both.
 

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Wouldn't be surprised at all if we draft one in the first or second andone in the 4th or later.
 

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Goldenrichards83;1948858 said:
Not a fanboy just a fan of the Cowboys and there's no link as you already know but those numbers was thrown around as far as what we were thinking of paying him. MB3 had almost a 1,000 yds playing part-time is it too much of a stretch to think he won't come close to any of those numbers you suggested? Besides if and when we sign him we are signing him as our franchise back and the quality that will be in the 1st doesn't dwarf what the quality will be in the 2nd.

More carries for barber means more fumbles more injuries lower YPC
 

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DaBoys4Life;1948874 said:
More carries for barber means more fumbles more injuries lower YPC
Barber is gonna get more carries regardless if we go with a RB in the 1st or 2nd.

Hostile I see your point. Maybe I should put it this way is Stewart, Mandenhall or Jones that much better than Ray Rice, Tashard Choice and Chris Johnson?
 

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Goldenrichards83;1948884 said:
Barber is gonna get more carries regardless if we go with a RB in the 1st or 2nd.

Hostile I see your point. Maybe I should put it this way is Stewart, Mandenhall or Jones that much better than Ray Rice, Tashard Choice and Chris Johnson?
No, it's very possible (and perhaps most likely) that we'll wait to draft a RB in the 2nd because the class is so deep.
 

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I think we need to look at our needs and try to define where Jerry might go from those.

IMO, the needs are WR, CB, ILB, OL, and DL

WR
Seems to be one of the most obvious in that Owens and Glenn are getting up in age, Glenn may or may not be able to play anymore and Owens is also in the last year of his contract. After those two, we have Crayton would is more suited to either the 2nd WR or the slot guy. IMO, he is much better as a slot guy. Hurd and Austin are just parts at this point. They could make quality starters but not sure either one would be more than a #2 guy. Stanback is really an unknown. He may be the second coming of Owens but no one will know anything until training camp.

I look for Jerry to address WR in a trade if possible. Seriously doubt it would be Chad Johnson just because of the pain it would cost the Bengals in salary cap. Roy Williams is a possiblity but I did hear one analyst for the NFL on Fox Sports radio saying that it would be foolish to offer more than a 3rd round choice for either one. He says fans imagine guys worth a 1st round but reality is that they aren't. There are reasons that guys like that are traded and that the new team has to live with those reasons. I tend to agree with him.

Will we take a WR in the draft, I think so but I am not convinced it will be on day one.

RB
I think we see the offense with Barber as the main guy and I think he sign for a contract probably in the $35 mil range over 5 years. But we need a compliment back to him. Someone who can catch the ball out of the backfield and is a homerun hitter (speed to burn).

That to me says it will not be McFadden. Might mean not even one in the 1st round but the guys I would think we would target would be Felix Jones, Jamaal Charles, Chris Johnson or Steve Slaton. I would bet that Jones will be the top target then Johnson and then Charles. From the ranking currently, Jones is the only one that appears will go in the 1st but never forget come draft day most RBs fall, so it is very possible that all of them would be available in the second.

Now the only thing that changes this is if Barber doesn't get signed before Feb 22nd and we tender him with the !st and 3rd round tender. Then if he is still not signed by Feb 29th, all teams can negioate with him. Would anyone be foolish enough to try and sign him for that amount, maybe. I could see Tampa Bay especially if Cadillac Williams is really going to be done as some reports indicate or maybe even Miami (highly unlikely) or Houston or Arizona or even Seattle.

DL
If Spears is really on the block then I would suspect that we will look at a DE in the draft or a DT so that Ratliff could be our DE. I could see us looking at Red Bryant in the late second or third.

OL
Depending on what we do with Flozell will dictate taking a OT second day (rounds 3-7) or earlier. But we will take one sometime during the draft.

CB
IMO, our most pressing needs. I just do not see us passing on the best corner available when we draft in the 1st. It will not surprise me if we took two in the first 3 rounds.
 
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