Why does everyone want to cut Green?

[Cowboy4ever]

Why are people calling for Green to be cut? He was drafted to improve the PR team. He wasn't drafted to be a WR. Here is some food for thought:

In this preseason, he has 8 PR for 72 yrs, a 9yd average with a long of 22.

Last year, we averaged 6.3 yds a return with a long of 26(by newman)

He is still learning the speed of the game and with different blockers on the PR team,, I think he is doing very well. No he is not breaking one for a TD everytime he touches the ball, but the idea is to be steady, catch the ball,, and get upfield. He is doing that, better than what we had last year. So unless ya'll want TNew back there every time , no one is better on this team, so why cut him??

And his kick off returns haven't been bad either,, 3 Kr for 61 yds and a 20.3 average with a long of 29. I don't think this is horrible for a rookie. I think he sticks and we will be a better team because of it.

 

[dbair1967]

I guess we'll see, but if I were betting I'd say he's getting cut...we didnt use a 4th rd pick on the guy to be average or below average

he looked bad last night

David

 

[Cowboy4ever]

I guess we'll see, but if I were betting I'd say he's getting cut...we didnt use a 4th rd pick on the guy to be average or below average

he looked bad last night

David

In preseason he is ranked 10th,, that is above average.

 

[JackMagist]

He does only one thing and doesn't do it all that well. We are going to be cutting some very talented people this year so if we could cut an average one dimensional player and keep a more versatile better player we are that much better off. I know that we may be giving up on him too soon but we have bigger fish to fry.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Sometimes we need a designated player for all possibly trades...kind of like Dexter for years was Designated Dex.

Sometimes we also have to have players that many feel will be cut and if they are not than they must have pictures for blackmail. For years this person was Lynn Scott. Maybe Green has took that role this year.

Now on a serious note.

In the past we have tried Zuriel Smith and Woody Dantzler in the roll of returner, neither panned out.

In Greens case he also needs to make the team as a backup WR IMO and at this point we have too many good prospects at that position that I am not sure Bill will want to keep him on for his lackluster Returns thus far.

One also has to factor in that unlike the previous few years, we have many good players on the team and to sacrifice one spot for a, what so far has been, a lackluster returner is going to be hard when you have other players that he may feel is better options on the team.

Not saying it is going to happen but it probably would not shock the masses here.

 

[JackMagist]

In preseason he is ranked 10th,, that is above average.

Bet he's ranked 1st at getting the ball inside their own 5 for his team.

 

[Iago33]

If he weren't taking a WR spot, then him not contributing anything there wouldn't be a problem. But unless Bill uses a Special Teams spot or a 6th WR spot, it's going to be hard for him to make the team.

Think of this: we're already having to keep a kickoff specialist (-1 special teams spot), and it will be hard to cut either Hurd or Rector as a WR. I'm not sure the number will allow him a spot, especially if he can't handle the discipline of the one job he was drafted to do.

 

[Cowboy4ever]

I look at Green much like KC looks at Hall. He is not a WR he is a return guy that sometimes plays WR. This will be Green for us. No one questions Hall importance to KC. Yet, it took him 3 yrs in the league to get his average Return over 9 yds. Took him 3 yrs in the league before he even caught a pass in the NFL. With the importance that BP puts on ST.. I don't think he cuts green. The fact that only one other player has even caught a punt and only once at that, says everything. Crayton isn't that good and don't want to risk the injury, Tnew ,, don't want to risk the injury. I think everyone was expecting miracles for a rookie.. he is doing what he is supposed to do. I dont think he gets cut.

 

[BlueStar22]

In preseason he is ranked 10th,, that is above average.

did you see the opening kickoff last nite when he didn't even get back to the 20?

 

[AbeBeta]

Green was bad last night. And he was pretty good the week before.

But we all need to recognize - and I've said this before so I know some of you just are going to stick your fingers in your ears and refuse to listen -- even the great returners took a few years to develop. Players rarely step into the NFL as lights out return specialists. It is a tough job -- and one where most teams spend years looking for a guy. Returners often need time to develop. Cutting Green without giving him that time would be premature.

 

[joseephuss]

I look at Green much like KC looks at Hall. He is not a WR he is a return guy that sometimes plays WR. This will be Green for us. No one questions Hall importance to KC. Yet, it took him 3 yrs in the league to get his average Return over 9 yds. Took him 3 yrs in the league before he even caught a pass in the NFL. With the importance that BP puts on ST.. I don't think he cuts green. The fact that only one other player has even caught a punt and only once at that, says everything. Crayton isn't that good and don't want to risk the injury, Tnew ,, don't want to risk the injury. I think everyone was expecting miracles for a rookie.. he is doing what he is supposed to do. I dont think he gets cut.

He kept Zuriel Smith for a season. Why not keep Green at least until the final cut down? He could light it up on Thursday.

He made one very bad play on fielding the punt inside the 10. Looked like he learned his lesson on that play and didn't field the others that ended up getting great bounces.

On that kickoff return that did not reach the 20. There was a pile of players in his way. He was trying to run behind his wedge and they moved no one out of the way. I did think he had room to cut it outside and gain maybe five more yards, but the play was designed for a middle return. Probably the "Julius Jones Syndrome" of doing what Parcells says instead of trusting your instincts.

 

[DallasEast]

Just my opinion...

Bill Parcells drafted Green to be his 21st century version of Dave Meggett. I think that he hopes that Green will one day develop into a competent receiving option, but right now he wants Green to be the kick return specialist who can improve his team's average starting field position over what he's seen the past three seasons. Granted, he hasn't shined during the preseason so far, but I highly doubt that a single training camp and a single preseason will be enough for Parcells to give up on him. He's sees a rookie who, with solid coaching, can overcome his erroneous on-the-field decision-making--which will allow his natural talents to take over and produce positive results. I just think that Parcells has plans for Green that are much larger than some may think.

 

[Iago33]

It was much easier to make the final 53 when Zuriel Smith made it!

 

[LD Fan]

Green was bad last night. And he was pretty good the week before.

But we all need to recognize - and I've said this before so I know some of you just are going to stick your fingers in your ears and refuse to listen -- even the great returners took a few years to develop. Players rarely step into the NFL as lights out return specialists. It is a tough job -- and one where most teams spend years looking for a guy. Returners often need time to develop. Cutting Green without giving him that time would be premature.

That's why Green should go to the practice squad. He would easily clear waivers....let him develop there. If he sticks on the roster, there are just too many quality players that shouldn't be sacrificed.

 

[jterrell]

We simply cant carry a specialist for everything.

Green has not shown me anything special. He is quick but small and it seems those players are common enough.

We'll see if he showed BP anything special or not.

I'd love to get him to a practice squad but if he is a punt returner he needs to do something else. Be it on ST coverages or something. You can't carry a guy for 4 plays a game on average.

 

[jterrell]

It was much easier to make the final 53 when Zuriel Smith made it!

extremely good point.

 

[Cowboy4ever]

That's why Green should go to the practice squad. He would easily clear waivers....let him develop there. If he sticks on the roster, there are just too many quality players that shouldn't be sacrificed.

But you can't short one area of the team to improve the other. So I have to ask,, who would be cut to keep green that would improve the return game?

 

[trueblue1687]

Why are people calling for Green to be cut? He was drafted to improve the PR team. He wasn't drafted to be a WR. Here is some food for thought:

In this preseason, he has 8 PR for 72 yrs, a 9yd average with a long of 22.

Last year, we averaged 6.3 yds a return with a long of 26(by newman)

He is still learning the speed of the game and with different blockers on the PR team,, I think he is doing very well. No he is not breaking one for a TD everytime he touches the ball, but the idea is to be steady, catch the ball,, and get upfield. He is doing that, better than what we had last year. So unless ya'll want TNew back there every time , no one is better on this team, so why cut him??

And his kick off returns haven't been bad either,, 3 Kr for 61 yds and a 20.3 average with a long of 29. I don't think this is horrible for a rookie. I think he sticks and we will be a better team because of it.

Pretty telling numbers and obviously an improvement, although not a huge one. I think he will stay and BP will try and develop him a bit more. If he had already made his mind up to cut him, he would not be fielding punts...someone else would be getting the field time to prepare for the season. One more game for a returner signals to me that he makes the final cut. I have, however, been wrong twice before in my life.

 

[Iago33]

Has anyone researched preseason punt return numbers. I would imagine that preseason averages are higher than regular season averages, so comparing Green's preseason average to last year's regular season average may be misleading.

 

[DallasEast]

Has anyone researched preseason punt return numbers. I would imagine that preseason averages are higher than regular season averages, so comparing Green's preseason average to last year's regular season average may be misleading.

And yet, it is the regular season averages which prompted Parcells and Jones to use a fourth round draft pick for Green.