Why doesn't Marion Barber beat out Julius Jones

[Bob Sacamano]

...3 of the 5 highest, single-game rushing totals, in Cowboys HISTORY! belong to Julius

 

[Canadian BoyzFan]

The MB3 manlove is crazy. He is a career back up.

 

[Silver Bullet]

uh oh...!!

Not this again!

Didn't we already discuss this two days ago!?

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[gbrittain]

MBIII is a solid kind of guy, but he is not even in the same league as Julius Jones.

 

[Avenging Hayseed]

Listen, if JJ turns out to be the better long term back then Barber does than thats GREAT. Its just that IMO I still think Barber wins out. JJ has injury issues, he can have eyepopping talent but if he's always in the training room he doesnt help us at all. Barber had every bit, in fact probably a better college career than JJ, he's more than capable. Mark it down, If JJ goes down for an extended period than its Barbers job...PERIOD. Plus, like I said, he's the better blocking back, something hugely important in a twin t.e offense.

 

[Avenging Hayseed]

Just went and looked up what I already KNEW in the 1st place. Barber had a MUCH better college career than JJ did. Go look at the touchdowns, yards per carry, total yards. He did all this while sharing some time with Lawrence Maroney. Furthermore, its not zactly like the big 10 is some patsy conference either. Pretty tuff up there. Lets see, Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan state, Wisconsin, Purdue, Iowa, Penn state, Not alot of patsies on the ole schedule wouldnt ya say??????

 

[Alexander]

Listen, if JJ turns out to be the better long term back then Barber does than thats GREAT. Its just that IMO I still think Barber wins out. JJ has injury issues, he can have eyepopping talent but if he's always in the training room he doesnt help us at all. Barber had every bit, in fact probably a better college career than JJ, he's more than capable. Mark it down, If JJ goes down for an extended period than its Barbers job...PERIOD. Plus, like I said, he's the better blocking back, something hugely important in a twin t.e offense.

You had to know you were going to get backlash when you make a bold statement like that. Despite there being some minor evidence that we are less than completely enchanted with Jones (the trade rumors on draft day, the Marcel Shipp interest), you have to be prepared for people to beat you up about it. And even though you made a point about the power nature of the offense, it is likely that it will be ignored.

 

[Avenging Hayseed]

You had to know you were going to get backlash when you make a bold statement like that. Despite there being some minor evidence that we are less than completely enchanted with Jones (the trade rumors on draft day, the Marcel Shipp interest), you have to be prepared for people to beat you up about it. And even though you made a point about the power nature of the offense, it is likely that it will be ignored.

..........I know, its just that ive NEVER been a guy who's loyal to a player. NEVER. Im loyal to the team. Whoever is best is who I wanna see on Sundays. If that happens to be JJ I wont be dissapointed at all. But I still think in the end its Barber....

 

[Avenging Hayseed]

Quick question to anyone out there. Its 3rd down, playoffs are on the line, Bledsoes in the pocket and the protection is breaking down on the play. Who do you want in there as his last line of defense to pick up the blitz .Barber or JJ? Even the biggest JJ homer HAS TO say Barber. Plus he's a more natural reciever out of the backfield too.

 

[Silver Bullet]

Yo Avenging Hayseed

On what grounds do you base your claim that Barber is the better blocker!?

I have yet to hear Parcells complain about Jones' blocking ability or missing blocks. If it was such an issue why don't we hear about it from the man in charge of detecting such flaws, and one who isn't known to be shy about calling them out either.​

 

[Silver Bullet]

..........I know, its just that ive NEVER been a guy who's loyal to a player. NEVER. Im loyal to the team. Whoever is best is who I wanna see on Sundays. If that happens to be JJ I wont be dissapointed at all. But I still think in the end its Barber....

If what you said is true then your obvious pick for the OVERALL better RB sould automatically be Julius Jones and not Barber.

Barring injury, Julius is a much better RB.​

 

[Avenging Hayseed]

Yo Avenging Hayseed

On what grounds do you base your claim that Barber is the better blocker!?

I have yet to hear Parcells complain about Jones' blocking ability or missing blocks. If it was such an issue why don't we hear about it from the man in charge of detecting such flaws, and one who isn't known to be shy about calling them out either.
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...It wasnt that Jones was a terrible blocker or bad at picking up the blitz, "although he wasnt that good either" it was that Barber was VERY good at it. Just one of Barbers strong points is all. Ive seen it with my own eyes plus many times the announcers talked about it during games. It was just pretty much common knowledge that Barber excelled at pass blocking/blitz pickup

 

[Avenging Hayseed]

If what you said is true then your obvious pick for the OVERALL better RB sould automatically be Julius Jones and not Barber.

Barring injury, Julius is a much better RB.



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If Julius Jones can go out and produce over a 16 game schedule than im all for him. If he cant than I wont be, simple as that. One or 2 huge games a year, a couple average ones, and a couple below average ones doesnt make a running back, not by a long shot. TRULY great rb's are consistant, they produce over a 16 GAME SCHEDULE........In other words, I'll take the guy who consistanty gets 95 yards a gme and occationally goes off for BIG YARDS over the guy who occationally goes off for big yards but spends the rest of the season either being average or hurt. Being consistant....THATS the key to winning big .

 

[big dog cowboy]

At Jacksonville, the starting HB will be Julius Jones. No question about it. That said, I am happy MBIII is a Cowboy also. Better to have a great 1-2 combo than say going into a season with THam as you #1 back.

 

[burmafrd]

JOke. Since when has MB been averaging more then 30 yds a game?
He has had what- 3 starts? He has proven NOTHING. What a pathetic joke.
AND you convienently forget the injury problem during camp and his propensity for putting the ball on the carpet. He is a career backup.

 

[burmafrd]

You are also talking about someone that could not be the full time starter in his own school- and lasted untill the 3rd round was half over+. He just ain't got it.

 

[KCCOWBOYSFAN]

Yo Avenging Hayseed

On what grounds do you base your claim that Barber is the better blocker!?

I have yet to hear Parcells complain about Jones' blocking ability or missing blocks. If it was such an issue why don't we hear about it from the man in charge of detecting such flaws, and one who isn't known to be shy about calling them out either.​

Because the man in charge doesnt always tell the fans what hes been detecting amongst the players. He will call them out but not always with the media. Its not fair to JJ that he be removed from the starting job but dont critcize people for thinking that Barber III can do it just as good if not better. I too hope Barber wins the job but I can only see this happen if he performs at a much higher level than last year.​

 

[burmafrd]

At last someone who does not think that MB has his ticket punched for the HOF. MB showed he could fill in last year- THAT IS ALL.

 

[KCCOWBOYSFAN]

I agree with you burm

 

[Avenging Hayseed]

You are also talking about someone that could not be the full time starter in his own school- and lasted untill the 3rd round was half over+. He just ain't got it.

WOW, Jujo must REALLY sukk then...LOL All I know is that Barber had better numbers than Jujo did in college. ALOT BETTER....