Why don't some of you get it, Jerry is not the problem!

[Doomsay]

Somebody is in sore need of a "What GM's Do" primer.

 

[Sgt. Fury]

In response to the question posed to start this thread...see below.

Here is the sad truth. I grew up watching and cheering for the Cowboys because of my Dad. We would go to a few games each year and it was a special time for us. Now that he is gone, those are good memories.

My daughter is 15 years old and she won't watch or go to a game with me, because; "The Cowboys Suck". In her living memory the Cowboys have not won a playoff game and so, in her mind, they suck. You can't aruge with that. I would like to be like some and just link arms with all the positive Cowboy fans and gleefuly skip up candy mountain thinking no one is to blame and all is well.

It would be great if I could view this crap sandwhich as Romo does, you know, a "journey of self discovery". However, I would like to see some results that involve them getting their act together and winning a playoff game. I think that Jerry is a great owner, and yes, I enjoyed those Superbowls. Jerry the GM is a failure. If in your job you failed to meet the objective set out for you every year for 12 years, YOU would be fired, correct? Unless you worked for yourself, like Jerry does.

 

[theebs]

wow the threads these people keep making are riveting.

I cant wait to see what the next one is about.

They all make you think and really ponder the downfalls of the cowboys.

Well thought out and full of facts and information.

 

[Real1st]

Dave Campo, Chan Gailey, A fumbled snap against Seattle, an INT vs NYG

And who hired them?

 

[CosmicCowboy]

The Captain of the ship is responsible when it hits the iceberg and sinks.
The Captain of the ship is responisble if it runs aground.
The Captain of the ship is responsible for everything that happens to and on that ship.
Jerruh is the captain and he is responsible for picking the HC. And final approval on all other coaches.
So MATT WHO ELSE IS RESPONSIBLE?

ouch....

 

[Bach]

What has he done? Except won 3 superbowls. Sure we won a playoff game ETC ETC ETC that all sports anchors pleasure themselves on saying, he has tried whatever it takes... He wants to win...

 

[BLEU3ASY]

Who do I think the problem is? The entire coaching staff.

Add the players to that aslo....

 

[Venger]

Ahh nevermind this post..

Exactly...

 

[TellerMorrow34]

What has he done? Except won 3 superbowls. Sure we won a playoff game ETC ETC ETC that all sports anchors pleasure themselves on saying, he has tried whatever it takes... He wants to win... Ahh nevermind this post.. You guys that want him gone, want TO gone also, yet both are probably the most hungry on this team. TO/Jerry bashers love themselves some Wade and Campo, and average WR's.


Then there's the ridiculous "running back commitee" We can just bomb it to Austin because he's fast LMAO!!! Lets lose TO, lose Jerry, and have an unproven RB commitee approach and not have a proven winner in TO.

Little to much there my friend. While I certainly agree that Jerry isn't the only problem here, he shares his blame as part of the problem for sure. Along with the coaching staff, the players, etc.

He is guilty of hiring some bad coaches, and no one can say he didn't. That is definately on him. He is guilty of putting news coverage, and media attention, on this team by bringing in questionable character people like Adam Jones, Tank Johnson, and yes TO when he got him. Though I've not been upset, one day, since Owens has been a Cowboy for anything TO related. I'd like it if he wasn't a media magnet, with his mouth, but that doesn't bother me like the additions of the other two did.

However anyone even attempting to claim it's Jerry's fault for a fumbled snap, or a INT, or a dropped pass, or anything like that is just being plain stupid. In that case every single owner in the entire NFL sucks and is at fault for allowing guys on their team who've goofed up in a critical situation. It happens to every team and there aren't any player immune to it.

Don't believe me? Go ask Aikman and Irvin about their roles in burying us 7 minutes into a championship game with mistakes. Is that Jerry's fault too?

Oh, no, let me guess it was Switzers laid back coaching fault that two of his stars made mistakes in a football game. I forgot about that.

While I think you're off that Jerry doesnt carry some of this blame, cause he most certainly does, it's not just Jerry. Or his coaching staff. Or his players. It's all of them combined.

They all need to shape up and do their jobs better.

 

[Royal Laegotti]

Who do I think the problem is? The entire coaching staff.

Sure you can add the coaching staff to the mound of problems but that starts with Jerry to!

But I asked you first what you think the problem is, you started this rant, remember!

The only thing you posted that was problem related in your mind was running back by committee? If you think that's why the Cowboys haven't won a playoff game in 12 years and choke after EVERY Thanksgiving then you really need to think before you post so you don't look like a member of the Mindless Jerry Support Cult, that you are!

Your original post really didn't have anything but just some emotional blabber about how Jerry and T.O. aren't the problem but really didn't have any intellectual reasoning to it!

 

[LittleD]

What has he done? Except won 3 superbowls. Sure we won a playoff game ETC ETC ETC that all sports anchors pleasure themselves on saying, he has tried whatever it takes... He wants to win... Ahh nevermind this post.. You guys that want him gone, want TO gone also, yet both are probably the most hungry on this team. TO/Jerry bashers love themselves some Wade and Campo, and average WR's.


Then there's the ridiculous "running back commitee" We can just bomb it to Austin because he's fast LMAO!!! Lets lose TO, lose Jerry, and have an unproven RB commitee approach and not have a proven winner in TO.

Jerry Jones did not win 3 Super Bowls.... Jimmy, the Triplets, and the offensive line of thoses teams did. The proof is what has happened in all the years since those teams and coaches faded into the sunset. Next we have Jerry and Gailey and Jerry and 3 (5 wins/11 losses) seasons. Get the picture???

You guys keep standing up for TO like he is some kind of winner... He isn't...
He's a ME first stats hound that only cares about his REP and MONEY. He has left a tainted mark on 3 teams now and has never been a "TEAM" player. He only leads a team by divide and conquor methods. He has never led a team to the Super Bowl, but only been a role player who usually comes up way short in big, meaningful games. He boasts like an "All World Player" but his DROPS in big games are legendary. Why on earth do you guys keep proping him up. GEEZ!!!!


Until Jerry let's go of the reigns and brings in another Parcells type ( Hint Reeves) and turns over some authority of hiring and firing, I'm afraid we are doomed to more no playoff/no super bowl years.

:bang2:

 

[Hostile]

There are a multitude of problems not a singular problem. The problem that is Jerry Jones is directly proportional to the Head Coach. In 2007 when Parcells jumped ship long after the Super Bowl, Wade was probably the best candidate. He no longer fits that description. There are guys out there who are far better.

 

[Thick 'N Hearty]

What has he done? Except won 3 superbowls. Sure we won a playoff game ETC ETC ETC that all sports anchors pleasure themselves on saying, he has tried whatever it takes... He wants to win... Ahh nevermind this post.. You guys that want him gone, want TO gone also, yet both are probably the most hungry on this team. TO/Jerry bashers love themselves some Wade and Campo, and average WR's.


Then there's the ridiculous "running back commitee" We can just bomb it to Austin because he's fast LMAO!!! Lets lose TO, lose Jerry, and have an unproven RB commitee approach and not have a proven winner in TO.

Wow, someone woke up on the wrong side of the keyboard

 

[Royal Laegotti]

Jerry Jones did not win 3 Super Bowls.... Jimmy, the Triplets, and the offensive line of thoses teams did. The proof is what has happened in all the years since those teams and coaches faded into the sunset. Next we have Jerry and Gailey and Jerry and 3 (5 wins/11 losses) seasons. Get the picture???

You guys keep standing up for TO like he is some kind of winner... He isn't...
He's a ME first stats hound that only cares about his REP and MONEY. He has left a tainted mark on 3 teams now and has never been a "TEAM" player. He only leads a team by divide and conquor methods. He has never led a team to the Super Bowl, but only been a role player who usually comes up way short in big, meaningful games. He boasts like an "All World Player" but his DROPS in big games are legendary. Why on earth do you guys keep proping him up. GEEZ!!!!


Until Jerry let's go of the reigns and brings in another Parcells type ( Hint Reeves) and turns over some authority of hiring and firing, I'm afraid we are doomed to more no playoff/no super bowl years.

:bang2:

I would change that to all authority. If he even has a say in who the water boy will be, we're doomed!

 

[TellerMorrow34]

There are a multitude of problems not a singular problem. The problem that is Jerry Jones is directly proportional to the Head Coach. In 2007 when Parcells jumped ship long after the Super Bowl, Wade was probably the best candidate. He no longer fits that description. There are guys out there who are far better.

Bingo. I agree with this totally. I like how everyone thinks Jerry picked Wade out of this huge pool of much better coaching talent at the time. That wasn't the case.

Wade was the best guy, at the time, because BP screwed him and this team by waiting so long to decide to leave. If he'd done it, quickly, Jerry could have had a shot at the whole coaching pool, rather than the shallow end of what was left.

However, now, the HC thing is totally on him cause he could have gotten rid of Wade this offseason and made a move for any number of people including Mike Shannahan and Bill Cowher.

Possibly that will be the move next offseason, I don't know.

 

[LittleD]

I would change that to all authority. If he even has a say in who the water boy will be, we're doomed!

I agree with your comment, but Jerry will not turn over control to anyone up and until he's on his death bed I fear. Maybe Stephen will be a different kind of owner. He's doesn't appear to be the attention magnet Jerry craves.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Anyone else think the only reason the OP supports Jerry is because Jerry brought in The Player?

 

[LittleD]

Bingo. I agree with this totally. I like how everyone thinks Jerry picked Wade out of this huge pool of much better coaching talent at the time. That wasn't the case.

Wade was the best guy, at the time, because BP screwed him and this team by waiting so long to decide to leave. If he'd done it, quickly, Jerry could have had a shot at the whole coaching pool, rather than the shallow end of what was left.

However, now, the HC thing is totally on him cause he could have gotten rid of Wade this offseason and made a move for any number of people including Mike Shannahan and Bill Cowher.

Possibly that will be the move next offseason, I don't know.

Jerry had Sparano, Haley and Bowles on this staff and any one of those 3 would have made a better head coach than the Pillsburry Dough Boy. This team needs dicipline and a boot to kick anyone not getting with the program. Jerry doesn't like that kind of employee does he!!!!:laugh2:

 

[Royal Laegotti]

I agree with your comment, but Jerry will not turn over control to anyone up and until he's on his death bed I fear. Maybe Stephen will be a different kind of owner. He's doesn't appear to be the attention magnet Jerry craves.

I agree with you as well again. I do look forward to Stephen taking this thing over. From what I hear he will be much more level headed than his old man and willing to put competant management/coahing in place to run this thing. When that happens Jerry will be spinning in his grave!
:laugh2:

 

[Stash]

What has he done? Except won 3 superbowls. Sure we won a playoff game ETC ETC ETC that all sports anchors pleasure themselves on saying, he has tried whatever it takes... He wants to win... Ahh nevermind this post.. You guys that want him gone, want TO gone also, yet both are probably the most hungry on this team. TO/Jerry bashers love themselves some Wade and Campo, and average WR's.


Then there's the ridiculous "running back commitee" We can just bomb it to Austin because he's fast LMAO!!! Lets lose TO, lose Jerry, and have an unproven RB commitee approach and not have a proven winner in TO.

"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."