Why don't some of you get it, Jerry is not the problem!

[TellerMorrow34]

Jerry had Sparano, Haley and Bowles on this staff and any one of those 3 would have made a better head coach than the Pillsburry Dough Boy. This team needs dicipline and a boot to kick anyone not getting with the program. Jerry doesn't like that kind of employee does he!!!!:laugh2:

Hmmm...so you're certain Sparano is better based off one year? You're convinced after 1 season of 10-6 and a playoff one and done?

Interesting....I guess you thought Wade was the right guy for sure then after one season as well. Since, you know, he was 13-3 with a one and done.

One season does not a head coach make, so no he wasn't necassarily the right fit at the time.

As for Haley and Bowles who have they been head coaches for in order for you to make the claim they'd actually be good at it?

Oh that's right, they haven't. Unless you think Haley signed the contract with Kansas City so beautifully that it means he's going to be a great HC then you've really got nothing to base such things on.

 

[Canadian BoyzFan]

I like Jerry the owner, I really do. The part I don't like... is the constant media/attention seeking part of Jones. This is not the way to run a Football team (a business maybe) to be as successful as possible. He consistently undermines his coaches and unintentionally (I hope) cuts them off at the knees. Some of Wade's PC's were classic examples, he gets asked a question and replies "what ever Jerry says".

I am pleased with the improvement Jerry has made to the drafting process. I now wish he'd do the same with the Football operations part. Jerry do the following:

1) Fire yourself as GM.
2) Hire a true Football man as GM.
3) Hire yourself as a consultant and limit your own ability to run amuck.
4) Hire a committee to recommend the best HC candidate available and hire said candidate.
5) Fire any of the current coaching staff that the new coach does not want (at his sole discretion)

I realize none of this will happen, but this IS what would be best for the football team IMO.

 

[LittleD]

Hmmm...so you're certain Sparano is better based off one year? You're convinced after 1 season of 10-6 and a playoff one and done?

Interesting....I guess you thought Wade was the right guy for sure then after one season as well. Since, you know, he was 13-3 with a one and done.

One season does not a head coach make, so no he wasn't necassarily the right fit at the time.

As for Haley and Bowles who have they been head coaches for in order for you to make the claim they'd actually be good at it?

Oh that's right, they haven't. Unless you think Haley signed the contract with Kansas City so beautifully that it means he's going to be a great HC then you've really got nothing to base such things on.

It's called taking a risk on a fresh young coach. Sparano, Harbaugh, Sean Payton, Now Haley.

Looks like lots of teams are willing to take a chance on a bright new coach. Why not us? Why do we always go after Retreads, Has Beens, Never Weres...?

 

[CF74]

Jerry is to blame until we win something. Surrounding us with talent alone won't cut it, we need the coaches to go with it. Hate to say it but if Bellicheat was our coach, ohh man...

Next to that I'd take Shanahan or Reeves...

 

[bluenut]

It's called taking a risk on a fresh young coach. Sparano, Harbaugh, Sean Payton, Now Haley.

Looks like lots of teams are willing to take a chance on a bright new coach. Why not us? Why do we always go after Retreads, Has Beens, Never Weres...?

Totally agree! Any of those candidates had something that no amount of coaching experience can teach you. Bullocks!!! Wade is a puppet with Jerry's hand all the... you know what I mean. Someone who will stand their ground is needed here. New blood= new start/clean slate. That includes has been players.

 

[LittleD]

Totally agree! Any of those candidates had something that no amount of coaching experience can teach you. Bullocks!!! Wade is a puppet with Jerry's hand all the... you know what I mean. Someone who will stand their ground is needed here. New blood= new start/clean slate. That includes has been players.

Preach it Brother!!!

 

[zeromaster]

This thread has potential.

But how about its measurables?

 

[LittleD]

Other names for bold new coaches:

Mike Tomlin
Rex Ryan
Spannoula
Singletary

There are loads of good coordinators out there that have some gumption about them. We need a butt kicker/heart braker coach here in the worst way!!!!

 

[TellerMorrow34]

It's called taking a risk on a fresh young coach. Sparano, Harbaugh, Sean Payton, Now Haley.

Looks like lots of teams are willing to take a chance on a bright new coach. Why not us? Why do we always go after Retreads, Has Beens, Never Weres...?

Again I need more than a year of proof to believe that the Dolphins and Ravens made good selections. As I said before one year does not a good head coaching decision make.

Just over a year ago practically everyone thought it would absolutely insane to lose Jason Garrett here as an OC. Now, a little more than a year later, and they're calling for his head.

Haley has proven exactly nothing to this juncture. He hasn't even done anything, officially, as an HC to warrant saying that it would be a good idea to take a chance on him.

Payton is a joke. He had a good first year, maybe even great, and his team has under performed, greatly in my opinion, over the last two years.

Once again after 1 season, by your standards of the Dolphins and Ravens coaching decisions, you probably thought that Wade Phillips was a brilliant hire since he got this team just as far as those two got their teams and did so with a better record.

I need a couple more seasons from those two before I jump on the bandwagon that it was a great move by the Fins and Birds.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Other names for bold new coaches:

Mike Tomlin
Rex Ryan
Spannoula
Singletary

There are loads of good coordinators out there that have some gumption about them. We need a butt kicker/heart braker coach here in the worst way!!!!

This team recently had that coach. His name was Bill.

1 and done was the best we accomplished under Bill as well. It's still more than one thing and no one thing is going to change things around here.

 

[Zaxor]

My problem with Jerry is that he allows players to go to him directly...circumventing the coach or he makes comments in the press that cuts the coach out...

 

[LittleD]

Again I need more than a year of proof to believe that the Dolphins and Ravens made good selections. As I said before one year does not a good head coaching decision make.

Just over a year ago practically everyone thought it would absolutely insane to lose Jason Garrett here as an OC. Now, a little more than a year later, and they're calling for his head.

Haley has proven exactly nothing to this juncture. He hasn't even done anything, officially, as an HC to warrant saying that it would be a good idea to take a chance on him.

Payton is a joke. He had a good first year, maybe even great, and his team has under performed, greatly in my opinion, over the last two years.

Once again after 1 season, by your standards of the Dolphins and Ravens coaching decisions, you probably thought that Wade Phillips was a brilliant hire since he got this team just as far as those two got their teams and did so with a better record.

I need a couple more seasons from those two before I jump on the bandwagon that it was a great move by the Fins and Birds.

Your just not interested in any coach unless they've been a head coach for 3 years... Thats a valid opinion.... I just think you severely limit the possibilities of obtaining a tough minded coach with that mindset. We need discipline and authority to fix this team not another "suck up" to Jerry. Frankly, I wanted Coughlin when Jerry went after Parcells but that went down the tubes. I think Cowher might be a good bet for the Boys but he would never work for Jerry.

 

[fredp22]

Why dont some of you dont get it.....Jerry is the problem

he hasnt won for 12 years and when the team starts winning he fires the people responsible

 

[MaineBoy]

the title of this thread was an obvious and pathetic ploy for attention....

 

[TNCowboy]

I'm mystified as to why the mods don't put a "no new threads" restriction on clowns like this.

 

[Switz]

Jerry is not the problem!

i read this title and skipped the rest of the drivel.

 

[28 Joker]

The onus is on Jerry Jones. He helped create this mess and some of his antics last season were embarrassing.

The team, imo, needs a stronger head coach. Phillips unwillingness to assert himself on and off the field isn't gong to cut it. The head coach must challenge the owner and be willing to do what ever it takes for the good of the team. It looks like lame duck city now.

1. Jerry Jones gave a 35+ year old WR with "a past" huge money when he didn't have to do it. Owens is Jerry's pet and he had to feed the pet. Dumb.

2. "Coach" Jones chews out the team after the Rams game and undercuts the coaches. He allows Greg Ellis and Tank Johsnon, and who knows who else, to run to him like a first grader and complain about the way the coaches are doing their jobs. Enabler.

4. He questions Marion Barber's toughness before the Pittsburgh game.

Dumb.

5. He states on ESPN that "he likes that stuff" when asked about the Ed Werder story.

That's borderline crazy. It's a statement that is idiotic at best if you know anything about winning football teams.

Jerry Jones has placed himself in the crosshairs through his own actions and mouth.

Bonus:

"Roy Williams at linebacker".

Yes sir, Coach Jones. Whatever you say, sir.

The Cowboys need a head coach to tell Jerry he's crazy without telling him he's crazy.

Thank goodness Jason Garrett is still here.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Your just not interested in any coach unless they've been a head coach for 3 years... Thats a valid opinion.... I just think you severely limit the possibilities of obtaining a tough minded coach with that mindset. We need discipline and authority to fix this team not another "suck up" to Jerry. Frankly, I wanted Coughlin when Jerry went after Parcells but that went down the tubes. I think Cowher might be a good bet for the Boys but he would never work for Jerry.

*Nods* I hear ya and I am really not opposed to a young assistant but if people are bringing them up I'd like to see people bring up someone that hasn't already given them some HC results to go by. Using hindsight on Sparano and Tomlin and Jim, even for the 1 or 2 years, is too easy.

I mean I doubt, very seriously, that there was this huge amount of fans clamoring for the hiring of Mike Tomlin when Wade got here. Partially because Tomlin had already been hired, I believe, and Jerry never had a shot at him cause he didn't know BP was quitting on him and also because I bet half the people on this board had no idea who Mike Tomlin was when he was hired.

I'm just grouchy like that I guess when people throw out names with hindsight attached to them. My bad.

 

[Jarv]

My problem with Jerry is that he allows players to go to him directly...circumventing the coach or he makes comments in the press that cuts the coach out...

 

[theebs]

My problem with Jerry is that he allows players to go to him directly...circumventing the coach or he makes comments in the press that cuts the coach out...

Mike Lombardi was on with BAD radio yesterday and he said the same thing.

he said he is close with parcells and belichick and he knows that the way things operate in Dallas is with the owner going to the players and vice versa.

He said it was the same all his years in Oakland and that the only reason they had those two winning years was because rich gannon was a special kind of leader who basically controlled the whole team.

he said there are only two teams that operate this way and it is impossible to win like that.

its sad how many people around the league point this out, how many people know what is wrong with this organization yet nothing changes here.