Discussion in 'Overtime Zone' started by Vinnie2u, Apr 7, 2022.
At this point in their careers, Schultz is better than Cook. And it's not close.
Easy as pie. Bengals.
Schultz is the #1 starter Jarwin is the #2 Starter
Who is gonna replace The Giantkiller
Draft pick, looks like. I don't have any confidence in any other TE's on the roster.
Whens the last te that got drafted by the cowboys that was a day 1 starting te.
That's like hitting the lottery.
Schultz got drafted in 2018 and 2020 he wasn't good at all but he played.
Last year he was ok but that took 3 years
So we don't have but 1 te and we use 2 starting tes but we're gonna draft a te that's gonna play in 1-2 years
How is that gonna help us in 4-5 months
Prolly be some 5th rounder or undrafted fa knowing us.
Escobar was drafted in the 3rd round and it took him 2 years
Probably best to just bite the bullet on this one, pay him the franchise money this year and try to replace him next season. I am not comfortable giving him a extended contract. it would turn out to be another bad contract in the making. Let someone else overpay him.
Escobar was drafted in the 2nd round and it took 2 years to play
At this time it's 50/50 to which direction the situation goes.
Deadline to negotiate a contract extension for players under the franchise tag is 3 months from today - July 15th.
A) Are the FO and Schultz's agent actively trading proposals back and forth...working hard to hammer out something before training camp?
B) Is there an understanding between the parties that the TE must put in a season deemed worthy by the Cowboys to offer him a long-term deal?
C) Schultz is done in Dallas; 2022 is his swan song + an audition for his next team.
In big games against good defenses, wide receivers evaporate with Dak.
I don't care about what he did against the Lions and Falcons.
Being a winner isnt about reception stats. It's about winning games and making quality plays in the clutch against the best teams.
If the wrs are getting doubled and can't get open and the defense is forcing ya to beat them w your 80 catch te he better be a gamechanger
Unfortunately our tes are just overtargeted mediocre jag tes that put up great checkdown screen stats but can't make the plays that matter to win ya any games.
2 tds in 12 games against non Division Opponents is not a 11 million dollar winning formula
We coulda got 2 mediocre starting tes for the price of 1 but we crapped our pants
The Bengals are a great example ksk
The Bengals had CJ Uzoma who was at least as good as Schultz.
He was prolly a little better in the clutch but he's just a 10 yard possession receiving te.
He only caught 40 passes and he wasn't overtargeted like Schultz.
The Bengals didn't want to pay 8 million for a Jag te so they signed Hayden Hurst for 3.5 million.
3.5 million vs 11 million for a non differencemaker player gives ya 7.5 million towards a wr or other player who is a differencemaker
I think that was a way better decision than ours.
Is Hayden Hurst a better jag te than Schultz or Uzoma. Prolly not. But that's irrelevant. Because he's still not a differencemaker
The Pie and Targets are going towards the differencemakers.
That's how alot of other peeps feel. It's just not me
They don't care about the 4 tds against Philly, 1 against Washington, and 1 against the Giants
We coulda beat those teams with Hurst or Oj Howard for 3.5 million
They're going to draft, and groom his replacement. Cheaper in the long haul.
It's those 12 non division games and the 6-6 record and (only 2 Tds by Schulz) that we should be concerned about. That and the 9 straight games w only 1 TD by Schultz
That hardly a differencemaker.
We really should have been 4-8 against non division but The Chargers and Patriots choked
If we'd focus on using Schultz as an inline blocker on 1st and 2nd down and quit using him as much on 3rd down as a receiver (out of the slot) he wouldn't be so gassed by the 4th quarter when he always comes up empty handed
Maybe a fresh 3rd down te or better slot wr would be a better solution. Js
Hopefully a 3rd down alpha dog te that can jump.
He's trying to be #82 in his prime but there is more to the te position than playing every snap. Especially if ya can't beat any good teams
That's just the straight dope no bulsh lmao
Longer. Escobar never was good.
He never did play because he was slow and couldn't block.
Escobar looked like a clumsy giraffe out there running around.
The Jones's have an obsession White tes that can't jump. lol
We drafted Martellus Bennett in the 2nd round and made him the designated blocking te behind Witten. Lmao
We wouldn't know what to do w an alpha dog jumping red zone te if we did draft one.
We just suck at the te position.
Witten and his 100+ catches per season w 4-5 tds against scrub teams Lmao
At least he could make some 3rd down catches and block
You don't build a team around a possession receiving te. You build it around wrs and rbs unless you got a stud te that can avg 12-13 yards per catch.
9-10 yard avg tes need about 35-40 balls max or it's unproductive.
We care about stats and emulating outdated schemes and players too much instead of winning.
I lost count how many games we lost or got eliminated from the playoffs on 6 yard passes on 4th and 10 to Witten.
90% of the experts think tagging Schultz or paying a premium for an Avg te makes no sense. That he's not very good in one on one coverage or a good blocker.
Most all of them say it's just this Sdupid checkdown scheme and lack of attention from defenses. And we should be focussed on throwing the ball to our top wrs.
I've been preaching it for 8-9 years in this forum and finally some peeps are just starting to come around
splitting or biasing data and then relying on characterizations to justify it is not a compelling argument
that's just the straight dope no bullish lol
It's been that way for 8+ years. So this is not new data
Go to YouTube and listen to what the experts are saying.
It's really not a knock on Schultz. He's just doing what's asked of him. It's just too much involvement
We just need to put more emphasis on improving our offensive scheme and focussing our targets and resources on our better skilled players. Aka wrs and rbs
I just don't think Schultz can beat that one on one coverage any better than the 3-5 million dollar tes can. He's just not drawing much of it on 1st and 2nd down.
The blueprint to beating the Cowboys is to force them to beat ya with their tes.
They catch alot of balls but don't make many big plays or score against many good defenses.
And it's taking opportunities away from better skilled players