Why is everyone saying RB in 1st?

[cross]

I think if Gurley is there and his knee allows him to play in game 1, you take him. Special talent and BPA. Otherwise, defense.

Amen

 

[AsthmaField]

The answer to this question is BPA.

I think that by the 27th pick, the DE's will be severely picked over, so I don't want Dallas going there... even before Hardy signed.

DT will probably have some decent 1-tech's there but Dallas isn't overly fond of taking those in the first round, although at pick #27 they might bend on that a little. I could see a 3-tech at 27 if they like someone such as Michael Bennett but as some have pointed out, that player would be just a rotational 3-tech because of Crawford and how good he is at the 3.

43 LB is another position that the team isn't crazy about using a first round pick on, but they were going to take Shazier last year. The thing is, there isn't a guy like Shazier in this draft. Kendricks is the closest thing, IMO but he might not be viewed as worth a first round pick by the Cowboys.

At safety, there really isn't a player that I think the team would like much at all over Wilcox and Church. It is just a bad year for safeties really. I'm pretty sure Dallas won't go safety at 27.

Cornerback is a position that I think has a real chance of being the pick. There should be some pretty good one's still available like Kevin Johnson (a pet cat of mine).

So, of all the defensive positions, I think corner is the most likely at 27. Then DT and maybe LB.

Moving over to offense, I think if a guy like Collins slides (don't think he will) or maybe TJ Clemmings, he might very well be the BPA. Would Dallas go OL again in the first? I doubt it but I won't rule it out. The team has been dead set on BPA since Garrett took over and with the addition of Hardy, I think they will go BPA.

QB isn't an option even if there was a guy slotted right around 27 (which there isn't).

TE isn't going to be the pick either.

WR might have the BPA there but in order for Dallas to go that way he would have to be BPA by a mile, IMO.

And RB is, IMO, going to have two guys who have talent well above the 27th best overall. Gurley would have been a top 10 pick, even with how RB's are devalued had he not hurt his knee. Gordon is also a supremely talented guy who would only be there because of his positon.

So, Gurley or Gordon would probably be BPA by a long shot if either happens to be there at 27. Rather than reach for a defensive player who would be not nearly as talented as either Gordon of Gurley, a lot of people here would rather shore up the RB position for the next 5 years that have a mediocre player just because we have bigger needs on defense. RB is a spot that rookies can come in and star right away at and with how important the run game is to Dallas and with the dominant OL they have, many say take the RB and let him make everyone forget Murray.

That is my take on why so many (including me) would be ok with RB in the first.

 

[cross]

Was waiting on this reply....... No, didn't say anything on that subject either. I don't think McFadden was signed as our featured back. Just don't see a RB in 1st with all these guys on roster as it stands now. Would rather go elsewhere, even if Gurley or Gordon is there.

Understand the remorse bro! Hard to replace DeMarco ! But bet on fresher and cheaper legs, the boy is good and you get him for cheap.... traded him and 4 mil for Hardy.. with no way to lose... you will see soon what transpired.... I am Huge Demarco fan,,,, this is business, watch tapes on this dude, amd pair him with mc fad .... Lethal.. promise you Gurley

 

[Spectre]

I just don't get it?! Where was Murray selected? There are other needs.....Even BPA rules out a RB most likely. I see RB maybe in 3rd, just need to throw bodies at that D IMO.

RB in 1st.....Really?

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/oh-stop-with-the-1st-round-rb-talk-with-good-reason.317721/


and a better question... why does this thread remain in the Fan Zone where my most excellent thread was moved the NFL Zone?
ModerHaters...

 

[Gridiron Man]

I much prefer not to go RB. But if he's the best palyer on the board, I have to say that I do like that you get an extra year under contract with those first round players. That's basically the guy's whole career when you look at the lifecycle for RBs. So you're maybe not paying a big second contract for that palyer. If he's a real difference maker, that might be worth it. Think what that extra year with Murray might have been worth.

That said, there are going to be guys who can help us there in the fourth round. There's zero reason to reach.

I think this is the Cowboys philosophy regarding running backs in a nutshell.

I am the "Dallas Cowboys" and I will second that.

 

[jrumann59]

Go BPA just no TE/WR/QB, Lean defense unless one of the top tier RB falls, go OL if that is the BPA, otherwise I would be fine with a trade back. Lately the drafts have been if you are outside the top 20 you may reach a little. I am not calling Martin a reach but he was plan D or E.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Was waiting on this reply....... No, didn't say anything on that subject either. I don't think McFadden was signed as our featured back. Just don't see a RB in 1st with all these guys on roster as it stands now. Would rather go elsewhere, even if Gurley or Gordon is there.

Who else is on the roster bro?

We got McFadden, Randle, and Williams...........a Raider castoff, an underwear thief, and a practice squad warrior............that's it bro.

So who is the featured back then? And please don't tell me some rookie we draft in the 3rd or 4th round is going to be the bellcow during a SB run, that's just laughable.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Who else is on the roster bro?

We got McFadden, Randle, and Williams...........a Raider castoff, an underwear thief, and a practice squad warrior............that's it bro.

So who is the featured back then? And please don't tell me some rookie we draft in the 3rd or 4th round is going to be the bellcow during a SB run, that's just laughable.

A rookie rb would split carries with McFadden, Randle or Williams or Dunbar (whoever is kept). No need for a so called bellcow.

 

[Beast_from_East]

The answer to this question is BPA.

I think that by the 27th pick, the DE's will be severely picked over, so I don't want Dallas going there... even before Hardy signed.

DT will probably have some decent 1-tech's there but Dallas isn't overly fond of taking those in the first round, although at pick #27 they might bend on that a little. I could see a 3-tech at 27 if they like someone such as Michael Bennett but as some have pointed out, that player would be just a rotational 3-tech because of Crawford and how good he is at the 3.

43 LB is another position that the team isn't crazy about using a first round pick on, but they were going to take Shazier last year. The thing is, there isn't a guy like Shazier in this draft. Kendricks is the closest thing, IMO but he might not be viewed as worth a first round pick by the Cowboys.

At safety, there really isn't a player that I think the team would like much at all over Wilcox and Church. It is just a bad year for safeties really. I'm pretty sure Dallas won't go safety at 27.

Cornerback is a position that I think has a real chance of being the pick. There should be some pretty good one's still available like Kevin Johnson (a pet cat of mine).

So, of all the defensive positions, I think corner is the most likely at 27. Then DT and maybe LB.

Moving over to offense, I think if a guy like Collins slides (don't think he will) or maybe TJ Clemmings, he might very well be the BPA. Would Dallas go OL again in the first? I doubt it but I won't rule it out. The team has been dead set on BPA since Garrett took over and with the addition of Hardy, I think they will go BPA.

QB isn't an option even if there was a guy slotted right around 27 (which there isn't).

TE isn't going to be the pick either.

WR might have the BPA there but in order for Dallas to go that way he would have to be BPA by a mile, IMO.

And RB is, IMO, going to have two guys who have talent well above the 27th best overall. Gurley would have been a top 10 pick, even with how RB's are devalued had he not hurt his knee. Gordon is also a supremely talented guy who would only be there because of his positon.

So, Gurley or Gordon would probably be BPA by a long shot if either happens to be there at 27. Rather than reach for a defensive player who would be not nearly as talented as either Gordon of Gurley, a lot of people here would rather shore up the RB position for the next 5 years that have a mediocre player just because we have bigger needs on defense. RB is a spot that rookies can come in and star right away at and with how important the run game is to Dallas and with the dominant OL they have, many say take the RB and let him make everyone forget Murray.

That is my take on why so many (including me) would be ok with RB in the first.

Excellent analysis bro, I agree with pretty much everything you said.

 

[gmoney112]

Is Gurley the next AD? Because it seems like almost every year there's a can't miss 1st round RB that ends up being completely average.

I also don't understand taking a player whose sole equity lies in his legs, coming off a devastating leg injury. Ask most guys how long it takes to fully come back from an ACL and its about 18 months. Is there a RB that's gone on to tear the NFL a new one after an ACL injury, not named Adrian Peterson? That's a serious question because i don't know.

This draft is stacked at RB. I think there's about 5-6 guys that could have 1000 yard seasons their rookie year behind this OL. Unless Gurley is the next AD then no thanks. I'm going BPA with a heavy emphasis on defense unless we get incredible value on a tackle or WR.

 

[Beast_from_East]

A rookie rb would split carries with McFadden, Randle or Williams or Dunbar (whoever is kept). No need for a so called bellcow.

The old "running back by committee" approach.

Cant say I am a fan of this, usually if you have several running backs it means you really don't have one running back. I would still go RB in the first personally.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

It has to be the best player at his position. The best RB is projected around when we pick. We have history of taking best player at a position in first round.

Drafted positions before our pick:
QB, WR, OT, OG, DT, DE, LB, CB, S.

Positions not projected to be drafted before our pick:
RB, TE, FB, K, P, C

So seeing this almost assures we pick best RB at position which is Gurley. Take it to the bank

 

[Beast_from_East]

Is Gurley the next AD? Because it seems like almost every year there's a can't miss 1st round RB that ends up being completely average.

I also don't understand taking a player whose sole equity lies in his legs, coming off a devastating leg injury. Ask most guys how long it takes to fully come back from an ACL and its about 18 months. Is there a RB that's gone on to tear the NFL a new one after an ACL injury, not named Adrian Peterson? That's a serious question because i don't know.

Willis McGahee had a pretty bad knee injury in college and went on to have a good career, cant think of anybody else right now of the top of my head.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Gurley said he has a six-to-nine month recovery period, and if he’s on the fast side of that recovery he should be fine for training camp. He'll need all the time he can get to acclimate himself to the NFL game and contribute as a rookie, but he'll need to be healthy first.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...ry-and-a-very-lofty-draft-goal-213705690.html

 

[JBell]

We desperately need an RB who can get those dirty yards like Demarco. The offensive line deserves most of the credit for Murray's success, but Murray was awesome at grinding out those extra yards at first contact.

McFadden and Randle aren't about that life.

 

[Tabascocat]

BPA and no other way unless it is a TE, heh.

I am not too concerned with RB, a few teams go by committee and seems to work, like the Patriots. We do need a RB who can take and give punishment though.

 

[theogt]

If we could trade back and still get Eddie Goldman, I'd be ecstatic. I think he'll be the best DT of the draft through three years.

 

[big dog cowboy]

The answer to this question is BPA.

I think that by the 27th pick, the DE's will be severely picked over, so I don't want Dallas going there... even before Hardy signed.

DT will probably have some decent 1-tech's there but Dallas isn't overly fond of taking those in the first round, although at pick #27 they might bend on that a little. I could see a 3-tech at 27 if they like someone such as Michael Bennett but as some have pointed out, that player would be just a rotational 3-tech because of Crawford and how good he is at the 3.

43 LB is another position that the team isn't crazy about using a first round pick on, but they were going to take Shazier last year. The thing is, there isn't a guy like Shazier in this draft. Kendricks is the closest thing, IMO but he might not be viewed as worth a first round pick by the Cowboys.

At safety, there really isn't a player that I think the team would like much at all over Wilcox and Church. It is just a bad year for safeties really. I'm pretty sure Dallas won't go safety at 27.

Cornerback is a position that I think has a real chance of being the pick. There should be some pretty good one's still available like Kevin Johnson (a pet cat of mine).

So, of all the defensive positions, I think corner is the most likely at 27. Then DT and maybe LB.

This is a really good post. Unless there is a player who falls to us that we really love I'm still betting on a trade down. We may have not have 27 players with first round grades on our board. In fact, I'd bet against it. If moving down 7-8 spots can bring a 3rd rounder I'm all over it. 2 picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds sounds great. That is 4 quality players.

 

[Rockport]

I just don't get it?! Where was Murray selected? There are other needs.....Even BPA rules out a RB most likely. I see RB maybe in 3rd, just need to throw bodies at that D IMO.

RB in 1st.....Really?

Everyone isn't.