Why is no one begging the Cowboys to draft OL?

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I have to say I'm really surprised by the people that are saying plug in a RG and we'll be good to go. While I do agree we need a RG (#1 priority in my opinion) with everyone, I just don't see how we can say other than Guroude and Kozier how any of these guys are locks. Flo, hey I like the guy, but as Clove said above, how many times did you yell at your TV over him? Rivera has flat out sucked since he got here, I don't understand all this "he's a good guy" talk. Hey I work at an investment bank, they aren't keeping any traders around because they are good guys. Sorry.

I think we'll be spinning our wheels another year if we don't change the line from SERVICEABLE to actually GOOD. I think as much as anything Romo's development depends on it. If this team wants to make a run as assembled with some old WRs, we need to improve the line asap.

Someone mentioned Shawn Andrews, we were in position to get him, and we didn't. So yes, it may cause some moving around, but would you rather have Spears (even if he turns out good) and Fasano or 1 Shawn Andrews? I think we should ask Julius/Marion/Tony and even Drew that question.

We need offensive lineman, badly. I guess I'll have to agree to disagree with most of this board.
 

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theogt;1394808 said:
Because Flo is a lock at LT, Gurode is a lock at C, Colombo should be locked up at RT, we can fill RG in free agency, and Kosier is fine at LG.


Really?

Everything is fine with the line except for RG?

I ask this seriously because we had problems with line last year.... so everyon e is ok for for RG?
 

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vlad;1394804 said:
I know some fans/writers and a GM have suggested it, or hinted one might be the pick. But I am hearing way too much noise about OLB, WR, FS. How in the world are those needs over upgrading our chronically suckfest OL? I don't think FS is going to be as much of an issue due to

a) much more collapsing of the pocket from the defense
b) Patrick Watkins development

Plus I'd rather rely on experienced FS from FA, that is a position where experience is a key factor, lining people up, like Woody did for Roy when he was getting constantly scorched

While I'll always say get a star QB, WR, RB first, we have all three of those to at minimum a reasonable level, and in some cases like WR, an elite level. I think we should build from the inside out, and in this case, draft an OL.

Maybe its just me, but I think Romo will look like a much better QB if he is actually allowed to step into his throws, or read through his progressions. That will help the running game as teams won't load the box. That keeps the defense fresher. That keeps Glenn/Witten/TO/Crayton happy because Romo has shown the ability to distribute the ball. Oh yeah, wearing down the defensive front ain't bad either.

Last year I was hoping we'd find a RG/RT/LT to draft high, that's what I'm hoping we do this year. I wouldn't mind one bit if we spent the first 3 picks on those three positions if the players are of value.

Just wondering if I'm completely nuts in thinking this is the best place to upgrade to really take our team to that next level? let me know, i'd be interested in any opinions. thanks...

apparently you arnt reading enough threads...must be a couple everyday from Longhorn homers telling us how Justin Blalock is the most domiant OL they've ever seen and we have to have him

David
 

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I'll take both, Leonard Davis, and I'll take Justin Blalock as they BOTH will upgrade the current offensive line!! Yep, they BOTH are ex-UT players. Yep, they BOTH were All Americans in their senior years. They BOTH are capable at present, of making their presence known in the NFL. They both will prove to be good to really good players in the offensive line. By the way, Blalock made the All American team twice...and on a team that almost yearly put one or two members on the All American team in the offensive line....
 

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dbair1967;1395568 said:
apparently you arnt reading enough threads...must be a couple everyday from Longhorn homers telling us how Justin Blalock is the most domiant OL they've ever seen and we have to have him

David

Texas fan here and yes I like Blalock but not such a homer to say he is the best OL in this draft but he is a very good player and one that could fall to Dallas and I would not mind that at all.
 

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First things first, when has Jerry Jones drafted an OL in the first round, answer never. When was the last time Dallas drafted a OL in the first round, answer in the 80s.

It is not to say we won't ever but the fact is that you can do just as well as drafting an OL in 2nd through 7th rounds with the same results. Anyone remember the can't miss guys like Tony Mandrich and Robert Gallery, even Bryant McKinnie who is very good but I don't see him in the pro bowl every year.

Fact is we will probably sign Leonard Davis in free agency and if the rumors out of San Diego are correct, we are one of two teams the Dielman is considering. Now why would we sign both of those guys, I would doubt we do but if we do then you have to figure we have a deal on the table to trade Flozell Adams.

You don't have to look far to see that a team like Cleveland needs a LT and a RB so could it be that something is in the works for a team that needs a LT, RB and DE to save the jobs of the coach and GM. And what would they be willing to surrender to do that.

OL would be very good with Davis at LT, Dielman at LG, Gurode at OC, Kosier at RG, Colombo at RT and maybe even great. Then you have McQuistan at backup LT, Proctor at backup RG, then you could address the draft with say a Rameriz at LG and Otto at RT. Remember Kosier and Dielman have both played OC and that's not to mention Whitley who was on IR that both Parcells and Jones were high on since he has played all five OL positions in college.

It would be wasting a pick in the first round on an OL.
 

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Why is no one begging the Cowboys to draft OL?



Prolly because they can't draft O-linemen worth a hoot, even if their very lives depended on it.
 

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vlad;1394804 said:
I know some fans/writers and a GM have suggested it, or hinted one might be the pick. But I am hearing way too much noise about OLB, WR, FS. How in the world are those needs over upgrading our chronically suckfest OL? I don't think FS is going to be as much of an issue due to

a) much more collapsing of the pocket from the defense
b) Patrick Watkins development

Plus I'd rather rely on experienced FS from FA, that is a position where experience is a key factor, lining people up, like Woody did for Roy when he was getting constantly scorched

While I'll always say get a star QB, WR, RB first, we have all three of those to at minimum a reasonable level, and in some cases like WR, an elite level. I think we should build from the inside out, and in this case, draft an OL.

Maybe its just me, but I think Romo will look like a much better QB if he is actually allowed to step into his throws, or read through his progressions. That will help the running game as teams won't load the box. That keeps the defense fresher. That keeps Glenn/Witten/TO/Crayton happy because Romo has shown the ability to distribute the ball. Oh yeah, wearing down the defensive front ain't bad either.

Last year I was hoping we'd find a RG/RT/LT to draft high, that's what I'm hoping we do this year. I wouldn't mind one bit if we spent the first 3 picks on those three positions if the players are of value.

Just wondering if I'm completely nuts in thinking this is the best place to upgrade to really take our team to that next level? let me know, i'd be interested in any opinions. thanks...


the Boys may be able to get OL late!!! after BP failed to build an OL Jerry will be forced to go with more FA based on the skill talent!!!
 

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Sandyf;1396183 said:
First things first, when has Jerry Jones drafted an OL in the first round, answer never. When was the last time Dallas drafted a OL in the first round, answer in the 80s.

It is not to say we won't ever but the fact is that you can do just as well as drafting an OL in 2nd through 7th rounds with the same results.


I pretty much agree with that. And I agree with doing it that way unless a player is simply too good to pass up in round 1.



Sandyf;1396183 said:
Fact is we will probably sign Leonard Davis in free agency and if the rumors out of San Diego are correct, we are one of two teams the Dielman is considering. Now why would we sign both of those guys, I would doubt we do but if we do then you have to figure we have a deal on the table to trade Flozell Adams.

I seriously doubt we'd sign both. I could be wrong, but I don't think there's a chance in hades that we sign both of them.


Sandyf;1396183 said:
OL would be very good with Davis at LT, Dielman at LG, Gurode at OC, Kosier at RG, Colombo at RT and maybe even great. Then you have McQuistan at backup LT, Proctor at backup RG, then you could address the draft with say a Rameriz at LG and Otto at RT.

Davis isn't a very good LT. He's much more suited to playing RT... or maybe even moreso inside at G. He just can't move well enough to block the Freeny's of the NFL. Inside where they can't get away from him and he can lock on... he fares much better.

Plus, Kosier played LG not RG.

I think it is much more likely that we end up with something like this:

Flozell - Kosier - Gurode - L. Davis - Columbo

or

Flozell - Kosier - Gurode - Dielman - Columbo

Not only is that much more simple (and so probably more likely)... it just makes more sense because the likelyhood of Jerry going out and signing two of the top three free agent offensive linemen is slim. Even if Jerry wanted to, the odds that both would choose to play here out of all the other 31 other teams is even more slim.

Then, throw in the fact that a trade with Cleveland like you propose hardly ever happens anymore and the scenario almost becomes something you'd read to your kids at bedtime. That's without even considering what trading Flozell and Julius would do to our salary cap before we even signed two of the highest profile free agent OL (along with Gurode).
 

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I would like to see dielman over davis personally speaking although i thought SD were close on getting him signed. i might have read it some place, cant be sure.

However of him and Davis i would imagine Wade knows alot more about him having been with san diego for the last couple seasons. Safe in knowledge and all that. Plus we all know how bad the cards line has been. they coulda had 5 turnstyles up front to slow the pass rush :)

I do agree though i think we need to get someone in there to solidify the line some more. Gurode got his contract the others are still under for this season so its looking pretty set. Time to bring in fresh blood and make it something special like the glory days used to be.

Would it be legal to take Nate Newtons DNA and clone him for the RG spot does anyone know? :laugh2:
 

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if dallas would waste a 1st rd pick on blaylock there would be some broken things in my house on draft day
 
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