Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by basel90, Jun 12, 2022.
Dak took a 4-12 team to the playoffs his 1st season. What's your point?
I aint gonna clown the suggestion because stranger things have happened. The premise of picking up a once promising QB who has fallen on hard times and really just needs a change of sceneray at a discounted price makes hella sense... Baker just aint that dude imho.
well even if I look at the full body from last season, dak doesnt look too good.
he had a good start, then went down the tubes then beat up on wash and phil, then got controlled by 9ers.
I dont really look at rankings or stats anymore, they are flawed and inaccurate.
exactly , seems like the jason garrett experience. for jerry it is business as usual.
Has not shown it so far, and again comming to this franchise as the QB does not "Lighten the load" when your trying to rebuild a QB mind frame.
all good points and no guarantee baker would succeed here or anywhere else. but there is the possibility the situation in cleveleand was toxic it seems and he can turn things around with a new team , similar to the tannehil situation when he joined Tennesse as Dandydon said.
That's a step too far for me lol
we will never know exactly . Dak had the best years out of zeke and the top OL and we got a measly 1 win at home in the playofffs. last 2 years Dak had better receivers and arguably better OL . So there is an argument both ways. But i know the last 2 years the browns had a better running game.
Dak looked terrible in front of decent teams , and his inability to win or get the ball when it mattered to Cee Dee and Amari was very hard to watch and cost the team ultimately. Aikman's first remark after the 49ers loss eluded to that , clearly a reference to Dak not able to read defenses and make clutch decisions.
Too true, if he thought the scrutiny in Cleveland, Ohio (no diss I spent 5 years in Xenia) was too much, playing for America's Team would bury him alive.
I also dont know what type of person baker is or his work ethic, or his desire to win. Any of those would matter if I was going to bring him here.
But again this is all moot, because jerry would never do it, he isnt bringing in any qb's, much less a potential starter.
jerry and his boy want a guy like rush behind dak, cheap and no competition for dak, and no controversy .
I dont like that because it is a long season now, and it is hard for qb's to not get beat up or have lingering issues.
I would rather have someone who can play a few games and give my starter a rest at certain points in season.
or maybe against certain teams, your bkup might match up better with certain teams.
like last season when dak was struggling and hurting they just kept playing him, not smart.
I get it, you want another QB, but again you have to be stretch armstrong to make an argument that Baker is better and has just been in a bad situatuion with a better team... and OBJ is not a bad WR he just needed a QB and found one as Baker was blaming him for the problems. So if you think Cooper is good and just needed a QB then its crazy to not say the same thing about the OBJ/Baker situation..right?
I’m not sure Dak can take Us to the Super Bowl with his play, but he’s a solid 10 out of 10 in the leadership department. Mayfield is a bottom 10 QB, and leadership would be better from an 8 year old Pop Warner kid.
yeah and the kurt warner teaching videos, showed dak to be not that smart, and kellen to be also not too smart.
Dallas makes a lot of mistakes before the game even starts !
I dont know about baker, but I think the whole dak is a great leader is a flawed myth !
just because the other players , maybe not all of them though like him , that just means he is well liked by most of the players, not a great leader.
Being a leader requires other things besides being liked.
Baker may never be a good backup he has been unstable in handling the starting position stress and has clearly shown he will cause waves if things dont go his way. I dont see any upside in Baker (who really hasn't handled the Browns starting QB job good) Comming to the pressure cooker that is Dallas Cowboys QB and doing better. The signs are there he just doesnt have the mental makeup for it so far. They gave up 3 first and signed a record deal to get a guy that may not see the field this year just to not have Baker...think about that.
We need a return on investment, and we are rolling with Dak
Basically you just grab and invest in any upside potential franchise QB, at this point the argument on rather or not Dak is a franchise QB should be mute.
Dak can really be good in this system if Moore designs a system that fits what he is trying to do, and honestly with the current offensive personal Im having a hard time drawing up a game plan at this point if Im being honest.
what does money have to do with it....everything with you comes down to money.... so if a QB gets paid 1M per season. is your expectations that he could suck and its OK?
I don't follow your (lack of) line of logic......
what is it with you and your utter hatred of Dak....quite concerning. sounds, seems and comes across as very personal. I said it before and you keep showing signs of it being personal. why?
If this 0-line cant right itself there may not be a good plan...but again i still ask why we are the only team in the NFL over the last 10+ years that needs 1st round picks at every o-line position to have a good offense..lol. Its crazy 2 all pro o-line and servicable rest should be just fine.
no, in fact you are farthest from understanding me....I am not impressed, plenty of criticism. but I don't want to replace dak with a pile of shiet. because the pile of shiet smells much worse.....that's all.
there is no way in heck anyone gets to smell superbowl with Suckyfield. zero chance. care to bet on it?