Why not just let them score?

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After the Romo turnover with just 2 min left why didn't Garrett just let Denver score ? They were already in FG range and knowing Peyton he was not gonna give us the ball back without us burning all timeouts and time. Why do we have to lose at that point in time? At least give our offense another chance to tie the game. Better than no control at all and just watch Denver milk the clock helplessly. I want our coach to be creative!

The other question I had was...... Where was Dunbar? Wasn't he our Speester with juke that we wanted to use more often. In 2nd half Murray wasn't getting much, why not Dunbar as change of pace or screens? Other teams seem to utilize their backs significantly better than our coach. Garett appears to have good philosophy but when it comes to strategy and clock management he is below average.
 

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The Zoners in the game thread were all saying let them score over and over again. I can't think of any reason not to do so. If need be, we should have pushed Moreno into the end zone.
 

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I didn't see Dunbar return after he left with the pulled hamstring.

I was saying the same thing--that we should get the ball back and play for the tie. I think it's unlikely they'd have punched it in, though. They were just lining it up for the final kick at that point.
 

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I didn't see Dunbar return after he left with the pulled hamstring.

I was saying the same thing--that we should get the ball back and play for the tie. I think it's unlikely they'd have punched it in, though. They were just lining it up for the final kick at that point.

We should have let them score immediately after turning the ball over because as the coach you need to OUTTHINK the other coach. Before the other coach or Peyton think we were just going to let them score we shied have already open the defense and let them. Once Peyton realized we would try to let him, he started the kneel down. Again, Garrett out coached and cannot think outside the box.
 

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We should have let them score immediately after turning the ball over because as the coach you need to OUTTHINK the other coach. Before the other coach or Peyton think we were just going to let them score we shied have already open the defense and let them. Once Peyton realized we would try to let him, he started the kneel down. Again, Garrett out coached and cannot think outside the box.

The Broncos weren't going to score there, and there wasn't really a moment where we were going to trick them into scoring too fast and giving us a chance to tie it up. Peyton talked about in his post-game conference telling Moreno that he need to get the first down at the half-yard line without getting into the end zone. Peyton Manning is about the last guy in the league you're going to catch asleep at that switch. Blaming *Garrett* for that by whatever twisted half-logic that might present itself at this point is high-order silliness.
 

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Yeah I heard that interview, how he said how difficult it was to get half a yard but not 1&half. We should of opened the gates for them & do that play the Gnats hurt Romo on..See if Manning just really wanted to stand there.
 

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The Zoners in the game thread were all saying let them score over and over again. I can't think of any reason not to do so. If need be, we should have pushed Moreno into the end zone.

That would require a level of in-game strategery that our head coach has yet to master.
 

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That would require a level of in-game strategery that our head coach has yet to master.

They "thought" about it. But didn't have the guts to call it.
I would have had more respect for Garrett if he had call it. He knew as million of fans at home knew Denver was going to score given what has happened all day. Yet he just is not smart enough to stay away from the "book".
 

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I thought the same thing, but....

“We did not want to give them the ball back,” Manning said. “I’ve never been in a situation quite like that in the end where we needed to get the first down but we didn’t need to score. That difference was about half a yard. Knowshon and I were arguing at the end. He basically was asking, ‘How am I supposed to do that. How can I get half a yard but not get a yard and a half?’ I just said, ‘You can’t. You can’t score. You can’t do it. We have to get the first down, kick a field goal and get out of this place.’ We kept it pretty close there at the end.”
 

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Not sure this was posted.

After the Romo turnover with just 2 min left why didn't Garrett just let Denver score ? They were already in FG range and knowing Peyton he was not gonna give us the ball back without us burning all timeouts and time. Why do we have to lose at that point in time? At least give our offense another chance to tie the game. Better than no control at all and just watch Denver milk the clock helplessly. I want our coach to be creative!

The other question I had was...... Where was Dunbar? Wasn't he our Speester with juke that we wanted to use more often. In 2nd half Murray wasn't getting much, why not Dunbar as change of pace or screens? Other teams seem to utilize their backs significantly better than our coach. Garett appears to have good philosophy but when it comes to strategy and clock management he is below average.

Manning already said they had no intend of scoring the TD they knew they could run the clock out and kick the FG. Only chance Dallas had was on the 3rd down and 1 to make the stop outside of that Denver was not looking to score the TD
 

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I thought the same thing, but....

“We did not want to give them the ball back,” Manning said. “I’ve never been in a situation quite like that in the end where we needed to get the first down but we didn’t need to score. That difference was about half a yard. Knowshon and I were arguing at the end. He basically was asking, ‘How am I supposed to do that. How can I get half a yard but not get a yard and a half?’ I just said, ‘You can’t. You can’t score. You can’t do it. We have to get the first down, kick a field goal and get out of this place.’ We kept it pretty close there at the end.”
Thanks for posting those quotes. I've been trying to tell people Manning probably told them in the huddle to just get the first down.
 

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I thought the same thing, but....

“We did not want to give them the ball back,” Manning said. “I’ve never been in a situation quite like that in the end where we needed to get the first down but we didn’t need to score. That difference was about half a yard. Knowshon and I were arguing at the end. He basically was asking, ‘How am I supposed to do that. How can I get half a yard but not get a yard and a half?’ I just said, ‘You can’t. You can’t score. You can’t do it. We have to get the first down, kick a field goal and get out of this place.’ We kept it pretty close there at the end.”

I am talking about letting then score immediately after the turnover and no waiting till we have already burned all our timeout and only a min left. We needed to let them score and kept our TOs for another shot to tie the game. Garrett just can think outside the box.
 

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Thanks for posting those quotes. I've been trying to tell people Manning probably told them in the huddle to just get the first down.
Again, we acted too late. That was when it was 3rd and short. See my other post here about letting them score earlier than that. Manning is too smart. By the time you think to let him score,he already knows that.
 

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The problem with that final sequence was Carr giving up that first down on the first play.

That allowed Denver to dictate.

If that pass is broken up, the clock stops, manning is forced to throw to try and score so we don't have to need just a field goal and with him throwing anything could have happened.

Once they had the first down he knew he could burn our timeouts and get a Td or a first down and win.
 
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I thought the same thing, but....

“We did not want to give them the ball back,” Manning said. “I’ve never been in a situation quite like that in the end where we needed to get the first down but we didn’t need to score. That difference was about half a yard. Knowshon and I were arguing at the end. He basically was asking, ‘How am I supposed to do that. How can I get half a yard but not get a yard and a half?’ I just said, ‘You can’t. You can’t score. You can’t do it. We have to get the first down, kick a field goal and get out of this place.’ We kept it pretty close there at the end.”
Thanks.
Manning is the the idiot people seem to think he is. This is just another excuse to hammer Garrett. Many times it is justified. But in this case it is not. The Borncos were not going to score there. If the d-line opens the floodgates. Moreno falls down on his own before the goalline.
 

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I am talking about letting then score immediately after the turnover and no waiting till we have already burned all our timeout and only a min left. We needed to let them score and kept our TOs for another shot to tie the game. Garrett just can think outside the box.

Manning told them not to. They would have just taken a knee at the one yard line.
 
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I am talking about letting then score immediately after the turnover and no waiting till we have already burned all our timeout and only a min left. We needed to let them score and kept our TOs for another shot to tie the game. Garrett just can think outside the box.

You have to try to stop them initially. I know they didn't stop them all day, but you don't let them waltz in from the 20 yard. If the defense could have make a couple of plays early in the sequence, they still could have given the offense some time. But they didn't. Despite Romo's pick, this game was totally on the defense. Giving up 51 points is inexcuable, even if Peyton is the best QB in history.
 

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This might be a stretch, but I said it at the time, .. this is not Monday morning QB'ing.

The first time Manning took the ball and just tried to center it, Ware got through and I don't think they wanted him to. It surprised them that he did I'm sure.

Anyway, I would have liked to see Ware hold Manning up while trying to strip him, .. but being the nice guy that he is he just laid Manning down nice and easy.

It probably would not have worked, but I wanted Ware, in that situation, to hold Manning up, and at least attempt to strip the ball from him.
 
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