Why our offense has struggled lately

[SteveTheCowboy]

AI (chatbox) just encouraged a young man to commit suicide.

I can't believe he said that...but I guess I didn't know what we were dealing with here.

 

[kskboys]

I can't believe he said that...but I guess I didn't know what we were dealing with here.

AI is causing issues all over this country. We are headed for big trouble if something isn't done.

Two of the people who were working on it tried to warn the company and quit when nothing was done about it.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Stats can be cherry picked and generally are, and AI is notorious for being FUBAR.

The convo is based on analysis. Analysis consists of several things: Stats, Experts, Eyeball. Among others. I never use just one item to evaluate play. And you should know by now that I don't parttake in the Personal Feelings trash. That's for the Dak threads where the people reiterate and misrepresent ad nauseum.

I like Prescott as a QB, don't love him but I like him. His salary is definitely bad for the team.

One of the big problems w/ Dak is that Jerry does him no favors. Jerry doesn't even understand maximizing a players skillset by how you use him and by the players around him. Right now, for instance, Dak desperately misses having a slot WR, the guy who just can't be covered in the seam.

Those are things I have both observed and read. When I watch him play, I've noticed that he's inconsistent throwing long. Downfield, whatever you want to call it. I believe he's a good at the 10-30 yard ropes, and that they underutilize that part of his game. And right now, we desperately need a better short game to open up the mid passing game. Teams don't respect our short game because we don't use it enough.

I totally agree. I've been hammering for weeks why Schotty doesn't go get rookie free agent Slot WR, Silas Bolden? He is a clone of KaVontae Turpin but about 2 inches taller and about 15 pounds heavier. Still runs a 4.34 40, plus he is excellent at returning punts and playing the slot. What is Schottenheimer waiting for? Christmas??? I'm seriously starting to dislike this coach and the decisions he makes. Really wish we had Vrabel. Same wrong coach picks Jerry keeps making.

 

[America's Cowboy]

"AI don't lie"

LOL...dude...and you said "I don't lie" with a straight face.

Most people can spot an AI image and article a mile away.

Most people.

Who is talking about AI images? Does your brain even work correctly? I was talking about what information on the subject AI came up with. It's got nothing to do with AI images.

 

[kskboys]

I totally agree. I've been hammering for weeks why Schotty doesn't go get rookie free agent Slot WR, Silas Bolden? He is a clone of KaVontae Turpin but about 2 inches taller and about 15 pounds heavier. Still runs a 4.34 40, plus he is excellent at returning punts and playing the slot. What is Schottenheimer waiting for? Christmas??? I'm seriously starting to dislike this coach and the decisions he makes. Really wish we had Vrabel. Same wrong coach picks Jerry keeps making.

Yeah, but I have no idea just how much control Schotty has. We know beyond any doubt that Jerry hamstrings his HCs, just don't know to what degree.

Here's the thing about slot guys. They absolutely must be built like a fireplug, or they won't stay healthy. Nature of the position. Turpin would never hold up to the number of catches we need from the slot guy.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Who is talking about AI images? Does your brain even work correctly? I was talking about what information on the subject AI came up with. It's got nothing to do with AI images.

YOU...said "AI don't lie".

I can only reply to what you say.

If you can't be succinct and clear that isn't my fault.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

So what's the conversation based on, personal feelings towards Dak? Stats and AI don't lie.

I said "AI Lies"....that does NOT mean they lie EVERY time:

The phrase "Lies, damn lies, and statistics" is a well-known saying used to cast doubt on statistics that may be misleading or manipulated to support a particular viewpoint. While often attributed to Mark Twain, who famously used it, he himself attributed it to British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli

 

[GINeric]

LOL...

How many times has Dallas had the "top offense", playing absolute bottom-dweller defenses in the league, only to then "implode". The NFC East has basically been dog poo since Dak has been QB.

This goes back to 2019...

Well if the Cowboys became a top offense due to playing against bottom dwelling defenses.....

Why haven't other offenses around the league become the top offenses playing against the same "bottom dwelling defenses" that the Cowboys played against?

Those bottom dwelling defenses have other games on the schedule besides the Cowboys, so please explain to us all why other offenses who played against these same "bottom dwelling defenses" failed to become a top offense?

I'll patiently wait....

 

[Robster8989]

I totally agree. I've been hammering for weeks why Schotty doesn't go get rookie free agent Slot WR, Silas Bolden? He is a clone of KaVontae Turpin but about 2 inches taller and about 15 pounds heavier. Still runs a 4.34 40, plus he is excellent at returning punts and playing the slot. What is Schottenheimer waiting for? Christmas??? I'm seriously starting to dislike this coach and the decisions he makes. Really wish we had Vrabel. Same wrong coach picks Jerry keeps making.

I respectfully disagree.
Since when does a coach acquire players?
That's the GMs job. Especially with this organization.
Our HC likely has the least power of any HC in the league.
Why do you want a clone of Turpin? We have Turpin. He's a great return man and adequate 3rd WR/gadget player.
We have bigger problems than not getting Silas Bolden.
I also doubt Vrabel would have come here with Jerry's reputation for meddling.

 

[FVSTONE]

One of the most common questions we have as fans centers around the idea, “What happened to our offense?”, especially if it started strong and then has a fade. Or the common misconception that most “bad plays” are just “bad play calling”.

The Cowboys offense started out the year on a tear, averaging over 30 points a game and with our bad defense, the offense carried the team’s chances to win and compete for a playoff spot.

But in the last two games vs the broncos and cards, the offense has averaged 21 points per game and the defense averaged giving up 35 points per game. The offense has seemingly been unable to maintain their ability to out score people, and the defense has been bad all year.

Why is this offense struggling?

Well despite the easy targeting of the HC and his play calling, the QB, or the injuries we’ve had, it really boils down to these common issues most NFL teams face:

• Defenses are catching up. As the season progresses, most defensive coordinators are able to get a better handle on how to stop your offense. They learn through film study what an offense does well, doesn’t do as well, then tries to take away what you do well.
• Execution matters more than anything in playcalling. Quite simply, if one or more offensive players blow a block or run the wrong route, the play will likely not work. Sure there are bad calls but many calls don’t work because of a blown assignment more than just a poor play selection.
• The Cowboys OL has struggled lately. The OL has had several injuries and done well at times, struggled in others. Even the great Tyler Smith has struggled lately with a nagging injury and he has a whopping 7 penalties called. Terance Steele has allowed 25 pressures and 4 sacks. Tyler Guyton has given up 29 pressures, 2 sacks and 5 penalties.

The Cowboys still have a good offense. Pretty obvious that defensive coordinators have sold out trying to take away Javonte Williams and the running game. Dak MUST play better when defenses take away the run game.

It’s not uncommon for offenses to struggle more at midseason once DCs have had time to study tendencies and adjust. Now it’s time for our offense to make some adjustments.

The NFL is like a chest game, and Klayton Adams, who has taken the NFL by storm, has been a day late and a dollar short with his in-game adjustment moves! As our OC, who has been in the NFL for some time now knows that it was just a matter of time before DCs in the league were going to be able to slowly make their shutdown adjusts, and he hasn't been able to elevate his play calling to the next level. At this point, he's no better than Mike McCarthy, who was fired for the same reason.

 

[America's Cowboy]

YOU...said "AI don't lie".

I can only reply to what you say.

If you can't be succinct and clear that isn't my fault.

Did you even read what KSK and I were talking about? STATS

Do a little reading next time.

 

[lukemartin79]

I totally agree. I've been hammering for weeks why Schotty doesn't go get rookie free agent Slot WR, Silas Bolden? He is a clone of KaVontae Turpin but about 2 inches taller and about 15 pounds heavier. Still runs a 4.34 40, plus he is excellent at returning punts and playing the slot. What is Schottenheimer waiting for? Christmas??? I'm seriously starting to dislike this coach and the decisions he makes. Really wish we had Vrabel. Same wrong coach picks Jerry keeps making.

You are sure right about that. Vrabel has turned things around fast up there in NE. I liked him as a player and was hoping he would be the next Cowboys HC too. The guy I really wanted all along is doing quite well in Denver too I see - Payton. Oh well, instead we get a guy who has been around for 30 years in the league and I never once heard where anybody was considering him for HC before. Did he ever even get an interview for HC in all this time, LOL

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Did you even read what KSK and I were talking about? STATS

Do a little reading next time.

Stats and AI...lie.

 

[khiladi]

Well if the Cowboys became a top offense due to playing against bottom dwelling defenses.....

Why haven't other offenses around the league become the top offenses playing against the same "bottom dwelling defenses" that the Cowboys played against?

Those bottom dwelling defenses have other games on the schedule besides the Cowboys, so please explain to us all why other offenses who played against these same "bottom dwelling defenses" failed to become a top offense?

I'll patiently wait....

Well, why has Dallas still not made the NFC conference championship despite this alleged "top offense", while these other offenses do actually put points on the board?

I'll patiently wait...

 

[khiladi]

Not sure what you are saying. Did you reply to the wrong comment?

I have a GB post but it was the playoff game couple years ago. You talkin about that?

I was actually addressing the post you were responding to, which mentioned the "close loss" to the Eagles and Dak scoring at the end of the GB game...

 

[shabazz]

AI is causing issues all over this country. We are headed for big trouble if something isn't done.

Two of the people who were working on it tried to warn the company and quit when nothing was done about it.

Its a necessary evil because other countries will gain a massive advantage by it in terms of progress in arms, medicines, technology etc etc.

Why they allow it for public consumption however, is beyond me.

 

[lukemartin79]

Well, why has Dallas still not made the NFC conference championship despite this alleged "top offense", while these other offenses do actually put points on the board?

I'll patiently wait...

DEFENSE wins championships and in the playoffs. Ive seen a few great Defenses with cap gun offenses win it all. Ive never seen a TOP OFFENSE with no D win before.

 

[DallasEast]

lol at Bob's thread getting sidetracked by A.I.

"I need your clothes, your boots and your motorcycle."





Perhaps it's more serious than I thought.

 

[Relayer]

One of the most common questions we have as fans centers around the idea, “What happened to our offense?”, especially if it started strong and then has a fade. Or the common misconception that most “bad plays” are just “bad play calling”.

The Cowboys offense started out the year on a tear, averaging over 30 points a game and with our bad defense, the offense carried the team’s chances to win and compete for a playoff spot.

But in the last two games vs the broncos and cards, the offense has averaged 21 points per game and the defense averaged giving up 35 points per game. The offense has seemingly been unable to maintain their ability to out score people, and the defense has been bad all year.

Why is this offense struggling?

Well despite the easy targeting of the HC and his play calling, the QB, or the injuries we’ve had, it really boils down to these common issues most NFL teams face:

• Defenses are catching up. As the season progresses, most defensive coordinators are able to get a better handle on how to stop your offense. They learn through film study what an offense does well, doesn’t do as well, then tries to take away what you do well.
• Execution matters more than anything in playcalling. Quite simply, if one or more offensive players blow a block or run the wrong route, the play will likely not work. Sure there are bad calls but many calls don’t work because of a blown assignment more than just a poor play selection.
• The Cowboys OL has struggled lately. The OL has had several injuries and done well at times, struggled in others. Even the great Tyler Smith has struggled lately with a nagging injury and he has a whopping 7 penalties called. Terance Steele has allowed 25 pressures and 4 sacks. Tyler Guyton has given up 29 pressures, 2 sacks and 5 penalties.

The Cowboys still have a good offense. Pretty obvious that defensive coordinators have sold out trying to take away Javonte Williams and the running game. Dak MUST play better when defenses take away the run game.

It’s not uncommon for offenses to struggle more at midseason once DCs have had time to study tendencies and adjust. Now it’s time for our offense to make some adjustments.

Overconfident vs the Cards and Denver's D was too good for us. That's regardless of our defensive woes, which are massive.

 

[Relayer]

DEFENSE wins championships and in the playoffs. Ive seen a few great Defenses with cap gun offenses win it all. Ive never seen a TOP OFFENSE with no D win before.

2019 IIRC, KC defense was terrible. And who's talking about winning it all? We're talking lifetime 2-5 in the playoffs lifetime.