Why TO didn't get the ball.

[Stautner]

I POSTED THIS ON ANOTHER THREAD A MOMENT AGO, BUT I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE A GOOD TOPIC FOR A THREAD OF IT'S OWN:

I read an interesting article in the paper this morning.

Three things jumped out at me.

1. Jerry Jones said he saw the game plan and it was VERY geared to getting the ball to TO - in fact I think he said it was "all about" TO and Glenn.

2. The article said that the game films showed TO wasn't open nearly as often as he thought. There were a few times, yes, but those times were the rare exception.

3. Some scouts were puzzled at some of the routes TO ran - believing that he sometimes ran the wrong route and other times ran the routes in a sloppy manner.

Jerry Jones may be covering for his coaches, but I doubt it - his hostorical behavior would suggest that if we didn't make enough of an effort to get the ball to TO he wouldn't sugar coat it.

As for TO thinking he was open, it's hard to comment since I don't have the benefit of game film, but high strung prima donna type WR's like TO and Moss and our own Michael Irvin have been known to feel overlooked, especially when the team loses.

As for the routes, who knows - game films and knowledge of the cowboys playbook would be needed to reach an opinion on that topic.

 

[Yeagermeister]

TO always thinks he's open. He'd could have the whole defense covering just him and he'd still say he's open.

 

[SupermanXx]

He'd could have the whole defense covering just him and he'd still say he's open.

Uh, I doubt that

 

[Everlastingxxx]

Parcells would do everything possible to get Keyshawn open. Crossing routes, put him in the slot, overload one side, you name it. If Parcells does this with TO, then Jerry would get credit for the signing. Basically the same thing Bill did with Price. Where are the big plays Bill?!

 

[Doomsday101]

Parcells would do everything possible to get Keyshawn open. Crossing routes, put him in the slot, overload one side, you name it. If Parcells does this with TO, then Jerry would get credit for the signing. Basically the same thing Bill did with Price. Where are the big plays Bill?!

Which is why missing a lot of time in camp has hindered TO. Parcells wants to win he did not take this job just for a paycheck and he clearly did not do it to get in front of the camera. No one runs plays by the seat of their pants and to move TO around he has to know the system and the plays. Key did not have that problem because he understood the system because he has played it before.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Parcells would do everything possible to get Keyshawn open. Crossing routes, put him in the slot, overload one side, you name it. If Parcells does this with TO, then Jerry would get credit for the signing. Basically the same thing Bill did with Price. Where are the big plays Bill?!

To did run a crossing route and alligator armed the pass.

 

[Stautner]

Parcells would do everything possible to get Keyshawn open. Crossing routes, put him in the slot, overload one side, you name it. If Parcells does this with TO, then Jerry would get credit for the signing. Basically the same thing Bill did with Price. Where are the big plays Bill?!

Gotta defend Bill on this one.

2 of Bledsoe's 3 INT's were on passes designed to go deep, and the intentional grounding call was on a play with TO streaking down the sideline.

Very likely a few of the sacks Bledsoe took were on plays designed to go deep - especially those where he held the ball so long (probably waiting for a downfield play to develop).

You've got to remember that just because we didn't connect on many Big plays doesn't mean they weren't in the game plan.

Bill and his staff called the plays - they can't go out and execute them.

 

[jazzcat22]

TO always thinks he's open. He'd could have the whole defense covering just him and he'd still say he's open.

Last week Bledsoe said he asked TO during the game at times if he was open. TO told him no, but the RB was wide open.

Not a shot at Drew mssing an open guy. He already decided to throw it to another WR opposite side of field.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

Last week Bledsoe said he asked TO during the game at times if he was open. TO told him no, but the RB was wide open.

Not a shot at Drew mssing an open guy. He already decided to throw it to another WR opposite side of field.

TO told Drew that the RB was wide open? If yes, then that sounds like a team player to me.

 

[Yeagermeister]

TO told Drew that the RB was wide open? If yes, then that sounds like a team player to me.

Or covering his own arse

 

[Hoov]

The eagles gameplanned to take TO out, and i think they decided to allow glenn to get open underneath but not let him get deep.

The run game was there and we took it and took a 21-17 lead at halftime, even after the 1st quarter gaffs that put the team down 10-0.

The eagles def coordinator made the right adjustments at halftime, nothing unusual for him. How many times have we seen the eagles start out flat even to bad teams then come back and dominate the second half ?

Ive played in games before where my qb was getting destroyed, and im getting wide open, except he cant see me because the pressure is there right as im getting open. So then im yelling at him just dont even look at anyone but me, im open everytime. The next play they change something up and he thows to me and its a pic cause someone rolled over and cut underneath. The one time he forces it to me, im not really open.

Its extremely frustrating for a wr when you can beat your guy deep at will or on a post or a sideline route but the play is blown before you even finish your pattern.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

I POSTED THIS ON ANOTHER THREAD A MOMENT AGO, BUT I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE A GOOD TOPIC FOR A THREAD OF IT'S OWN:

I read an interesting article in the paper this morning.

Three things jumped out at me.

1. Jerry Jones said he saw the game plan and it was VERY geared to getting the ball to TO - in fact I think he said it was "all about" TO and Glenn.

2. The article said that the game films showed TO wasn't open nearly as often as he thought. There were a few times, yes, but those times were the rare exception.

3. Some scouts were puzzled at some of the routes TO ran - believing that he sometimes ran the wrong route and other times ran the routes in a sloppy manner.

Jerry Jones may be covering for his coaches, but I doubt it - his hostorical behavior would suggest that if we didn't make enough of an effort to get the ball to TO he wouldn't sugar coat it.

As for TO thinking he was open, it's hard to comment since I don't have the benefit of game film, but high strung prima donna type WR's like TO and Moss and our own Michael Irvin have been known to feel overlooked, especially when the team loses.

As for the routes, who knows - game films and knowledge of the cowboys playbook would be needed to reach an opinion on that topic.

Which paper was this?

 

[CrazyCowboy]

I believe the gameplan was solid.....ck the execution!

 

[sonnyboy]

Here's an angel I don't think anyone has taken as far as TO not getting enough balls.

In the first half this team had alot of success offensively. Two lond TD drives. Not nearly as much success in the second half with only one sustained drive for a FG.

I believe T.O. was shut out in the first half, with perhaps 1-3 attempts to get him the ball. In the second half he picked up 3 catches on no less than 10 attempts to get him the ball.

Alot of things happened in both halves of football that contributed to this loss. However, I think it's fairly obvious that this team opporated far more effiecently when it excepted the fact that the defense was doing all it could to stop T.O. and exploited that fact to more effiecently get the ball in the hands of its other player makers.

In short, I think Bledsoe/coaches tried to hard to get the ball to T.O. in the second half. This hurt us.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Which paper was this?

I actually saw those quotes in two different places... One of them is actually by Galloway, not Jerry in his article. http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66689

Can't find the other one, but it's prolly in one of those, "Why am I here" threads. Still looking..

 

[Stautner]

I actually saw those quotes in two different places... One of them is actually by Galloway, not Jerry in his article. http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66689

Can't find the other one, but it's prolly in one of those, "Why am I here" threads. Still looking..

The only quote I was attributing to Jerry was the one about the game plan and how it was geared toward TO.

This was the article I was referring to - thanks for posting the link.

 

[THUMPER]

TO always thinks he's open. He'd could have the whole defense covering just him and he'd still say he's open.

That's true of most WRs, they ALWAYS think they're open on every play.

In the early 60s Colts WR Jimmy Orr once made the mistake of telling Johnny Unitas in the huddle that he was open. Unitas sent Orr to the bench for the rest of the game. Unitas said later that it didn't matter whether he was open or not because he would throw the ball where he wanted to regardless of the coverage. The point was, you NEVER spoke in Unitas' huddle, not EVER!

 

[WoodysGirl]

The only quote I was attributing to Jerry was the one about the game plan and how it was geared toward TO.

This was the article I was referring to - thanks for posting the link.

No biggie. I saw the Jerry quote you were referencing. Just couldn't remember where I saw it. I read a TON of articles a day, so it's hard to remember sometimes.