he does from people who follow this team closely and are interested in the BOTTOM line....wins and losses. Then there are those who insist he is a first ballot HOFer. And I don't see it. I would not have said that 5 years ago...but what has really been accomplished between then and now? We have missed the playoffs 4 straight years. He is RAPIDLY detioriating before our eyes. I don't think there is ONE...ONE time in a game we have lost this year where he has ended a drive. You think back to the Lions, Broncos, Packers...all close losses. All games where the offense scored more than enough. And also games where the oppostion enroute to game winning drives converted multiple 3rd or 4th downs. I don't think our "main" guy ended one of those drives with a sack, strip, interception etc...these are the moments defensive players should be able to reference when stating their case for Canton! It is easy to point to specefic plays on multiple occasions for offensive guys...but for defense...when you get in these moments...make a play...if you don't...you ain't ELITE.