Why we should play for real

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What can this offense do, without TO, against a playoff-calibre defense?

We can either wait and find out in the first playoff game, or we can find out Sunday.
 

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SultanOfSix;1856621 said:
LOL. Did you watch the game? There was no catchup in this game. The 'Skins had the opportunity to go ahead even more except for a rightfully overruled intereception return to the the Dallas one. This was a back and forth game.

You coach against an opposing teams tendencies. When they throw something new at you, you have very little information and time to make adjustments to what they're doing. It's just a fact. Three hours or less during game time vs days preparing pre-game time.

Wade: "Gosh darn it...they're throwing...whadda ya think we should do now?"

PULEEEZE!

Washington's last 29 offensive plays were PASS plays, including their last 37 of 38...because they were BEHIND. You think somewhere in those last 38 plays somebody MAY have made an adjustment? Good grief.

If you can't make adjustments on the fly...you're in trouble. The game's all about adjustments.
 

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I want to take them out period. 3 NFC east teams in the playoffs is not good. We all know each other to well. This will be like a playoff game. The skins vs dallas with playoffs on the line for them plus 90,000 redstink fans equals an massive explosion. If we go in with the attitude of let's not get hurt, that's when you get hurt. We need to have maximum intensity. They're going to come out like a house of fire. We have to macth their energy. I really hope Wade coaches to win and nor just roll over for them. These deadskins fans already think it's a foregone conclusion. We need to end their dreams on sunday.
 

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sit it out don't risk getting hurt. we are one of the teams in the nfl that have alot of depth in almost alll of our postions. i think we can win with backups
 

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Seems like losing the last game is actually the ticket to the Super Bowl in the NFC:

Last three NFC Super Bowl teams:

2006: Chicago 6 Green Bay 27
2005: Seattle 17 Green Bay 23
2004: Philadelphia 10 Cincinnati 38
 

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Dave_in-NC;1855836 said:
Agreed. We need to sharpen up.

Nah, too much hysteria.

You play one half with your starter, "for real". Then you let the 2nd team take over. It builds character and comradery--and, more importantly, cuts the chances of injuring your starters in half while keeping them "warm" for the Chicken Littles.
 

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jackrussell;1856699 said:
Wade: "Gosh darn it...they're throwing...whadda ya think we should do now?"

PULEEEZE!

Washington's last 29 offensive plays were PASS plays, including their last 37 of 38...because they were BEHIND. You think somewhere in those last 38 plays somebody MAY have made an adjustment? Good grief.

If you can't make adjustments on the fly...you're in trouble. The game's all about adjustments.

Well, maybe he did. But, the team just sucked in coverage because they didn't practice the scenarios more or as hard as they could have for things they didn't expect.

If you're such an expert, why don't you go to the coach and advise him on what he should have done?

The game is about execution. Per Troy Aikman, "adjustments are overrated".
 

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SultanOfSix;1856968 said:
Well, maybe he did. But, the team just sucked in coverage because they didn't practice the scenarios more or as hard as they could have for things they didn't expect.

If you're such an expert, why don't you go to the coach and advise him on what he should have done?

The game is about execution. Per Troy Aikman, "adjustments are overrated".

Love the 'if you're such an expert' line. That the best you have when you bail?

No 'maybe' about it...look it up if you know how.

Someone would have to be ignorant to think teams don't prepare for more than one scenario in a game.
 

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After reading this whole thread going into it with the idea I would sit the starters, I think I am changing my mind except for Newman. I would sit him. He needs 3 weeks off IMO.

But the idea of going into Washington and beating them badly would be a huge momentum boost going into the playoffs. To do it without TO would just give everyone a confidence lift that i don't think this team has felt since the GB win.

Every big game this year the Boys have shown up, against NE, against GB and the 4 game stretch with 3 NFC east opponents. We were dominant in those big stretches except for NE.

I like this team, and like me since we won the division I think they began looking forward to the playoffs. The loss against Philly due to an off Romo day is the only place this team has a big miscue IMO.

I think we will have a renewed focus come the first playoff game but this week knocking off the Skins and out of the playoffs would end the regular season on a very positive note!
 

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2 things

1st) to say " lets keep our starters in until the game gets out of hand" is stupid. 1st of all, there is no way you can just say that as the skins will be playing with everything on the line, and have won 2 straight at home against you guys. You are a better team from last time, but we are playing like a damn good team right now.

2nd) We are not taking this game lightly at all. Gibbs does not coach his teams into thinking the game will be a lay up. You guys want us out and we want in. Everything is on the line this game. I hope you think we dont care about this game.
 

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jackrussell;1856699 said:
Wade: "Gosh darn it...they're throwing...whadda ya think we should do now?"

PULEEEZE!

Washington's last 29 offensive plays were PASS plays, including their last 37 of 38...because they were BEHIND. You think somewhere in those last 38 plays somebody MAY have made an adjustment? Good grief.

If you can't make adjustments on the fly...you're in trouble. The game's all about adjustments.

I doubt that you have ever coached football at any level at any time in your life. As much fun as it is to act like you know what youre talking about, you obviously do o not. During practice each week you emphasize certain things to your players and you put a gameplan together based on what you think your opponents tendencies will be.

If the go the absolute opposite then that is going to cause issues.

Oh and BTW we did make adjustments in the second half. I invite you to quit acting like a ninny and go rewatch the game.
 

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jackrussell;1857013 said:
Love the 'if you're such an expert' line. That the best you have when you bail?

No 'maybe' about it...look it up if you know how.

Someone would have to be ignorant to think teams don't prepare for more than one scenario in a game.

Who said he didn't prepare at all, or for more than one scenario (which is just silly)? Maybe the coach wasn't as focused on it as he could have been, or was possible to. Teams tend to stick to a game plan that guards against that which the opposing team is best at, because it makes their chances for victory greater. Not a bad assumption to concentrate on the running game - the 'Skins bread and butter - when Campbell was playing like an average QB. So, Wade and the rest of the coaching staff concentrated on the running game, and gave secondary attention to passing scenarios that the 'Skins never used before.

It's a not a difficult concept.
 

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And really unless you have some osrt of statistic of teams that rest 4 or more of their starters in the last game of the year as to how they fare in the playoffs then you have no point.

I have seen teams like the Colts and Bears do it and have been seeing it for years. As much as im sure you guys want to see an entertaining game, I would prefer we have players fresh and ready to play after a grueling 15 weeks that has shown us getting dinged up heavily the last few games.

Think about it. We seen TO, Gurode, Romo, Canty, Newman, Ratliff, Watkins, and others miss time in the last few games. That should tell you something but you guys babble on about how they need to stay sharp with little to no basis to go by.
 

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SultanOfSix;1857030 said:
Who said he didn't prepare at all, or for more than one scenario (which is just silly)? Maybe the coach wasn't as focused on it as he could have been, or was possible to. Teams tend to stick to a game plan that guards against that which the opposing team is best at, because it makes their chances for victory greater. Not a bad assumption to concentrate on the running game - the 'Skins bread and butter - when Campbell was playing like an average QB. So, Wade and the rest of the coaching staff concentrated on the running game, and gave secondary attention to passing scenarios that the 'Skins never used before.

It's a not a difficult concept.

Not a bad assumption would be somewhere in the midst of a team tossing some 40 passes in the last 20-25 minutes of a ball game that they have all but abandoned the run.

Of course, that would take an adjustment...something you and I are just going to have to disagree on as an important part of a game.
 

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Gibbs II;1857023 said:
2 things

1st) to say " lets keep our starters in until the game gets out of hand" is stupid. 1st of all, there is no way you can just say that as the skins will be playing with everything on the line, and have won 2 straight at home against you guys. You are a better team from last time, but we are playing like a damn good team right now.

2nd) We are not taking this game lightly at all. Gibbs does not coach his teams into thinking the game will be a lay up. You guys want us out and we want in. Everything is on the line this game. I hope you think we dont care about this game.


The thing is, we don't care about this game. We're in--with a bye. You're the ones who are clinging to your chances of hope. We know our destiny.
 

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Considering how we've dominated second halves this year, it's pretty ridiculous to say that we don't make adjustments, or don't make them well.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;1857033 said:
And really unless you have some osrt of statistic of teams that rest 4 or more of their starters in the last game of the year as to how they fare in the playoffs then you have no point.

I have seen teams like the Colts and Bears do it and have been seeing it for years. As much as im sure you guys want to see an entertaining game, I would prefer we have players fresh and ready to play after a grueling 15 weeks that has shown us getting dinged up heavily the last few games.

Think about it. We seen TO, Gurode, Romo, Canty, Newman, Ratliff, Watkins, and others miss time in the last few games. That should tell you something but you guys babble on about how they need to stay sharp with little to no basis to go by.

I would agree with you if we played better than average ball the last few weeks. Barley beating Detroit, a loss then a fight with the Panthers. Those three teams aren't exactly power houses.

owens and Gurode are obvious hold outs. So I would say we could use some work. Some times after pulling off teams don't get it back.
 

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Rack;1856399 said:
I don't care how we're playing now. With the way the injuries have mounted the last two games, I don't want to take the chance.

Sit Romo.

Sit Barber after the first quarter.

Sit Witten after the first quarter.

Play as many backup OL as we can.

Sit Glenn. Give him even more time to strengthen that quad.

Sit Ware. I don't care how many more sacks he could get.

Sit Newman and Henry as much as possible.

And rotate in everybody that can play. Lets see Stanback, Carpenter, Spencer, Rogers, Oglesby, Ball, Brown, Bowen, Hatcher, Tank, Killer, McQ, Free, Proctor, Austin, Hurd, Curtis, etc...
I completely agree. I love killing the deadskins, but not at the expense of losing any starter. We will stay sharp in practice, but I truly believe our backups can win in Washington, and I hope that's how it goes.
 

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Clove;1857532 said:
I completely agree. I love killing the deadskins, but not at the expense of losing any starter. We will stay sharp in practice, but I truly believe our backups can win in Washington, and I hope that's how it goes.

I hope so but I'm starting to wonder how those practices are going.
 
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