Win a playoff game or JG is sent packing?

[Reverend Conehead]

Does anyone else think this is where we are? It's what I suspect. Or do you think there's some way that JG keeps his job even if there's no playoff victory? Maybe winning the NFC East with a very good record is enough, especially if whoever we face in the playoffs is very good.

I can't imagine after another 8 and 8 or worse that Garrett sticks around.

 

[17yearsandcounting]

Thats the hope.

 

[CyberB0b]

No way he keeps his job without a playoff win.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

He shouldn't keep his job without a playoff win. Garrett needs to be coached on how to coach (I'm being serious). If that ever took place, he may restore my confidence. But things aren't looking good for him. I keep reading people saying, "Garrett isn't stupid", et cetera. Just because he went to Princeton doesn't make him brilliant either. He's made some really stupid calls. If something doesn't happen to change that perception of Garrett, he's toast. And he should be.

 

[Red Dragon]

We have to stop this cycle of hiring and firing head coaches every few years.

 

[CyberB0b]

We have to stop this cycle of hiring and firing head coaches every few years.

Well, after this year, he would have been the head coach for 3.5 years with no playoff appearances and less than stellar results.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Well, after this year, he would have been the head coach for 3.5 years with no playoff appearances and less than stellar results.

And that's plenty of time. End the cycle. Hire a real head coach with experience and give him a contract. I agree, the revolving door sucks. But insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

 

[Idgit]

I think there are scenarios where he keeps his job without even qualifying for the playoffs, though they're probably slim. Not sure he needs to win if he gets in, but I think he definitely stays if he gets even a wildcard victory.

I think the organization is really happy with Garrett, overall, and I think they understand that there are other challenges with this roster and the cap that they've been working around since 2010.

At some point, though, he'll lose the confidence of the players if he can't build and deliver post season wins.

 

[Clove]

He's been here a long time, as an assistant, and now a Head Coach. The objective of your job is to get better. If we can't win a playoff game, where are we headed exactly?

You must fire him if he can't win something other than a couple of great teams a year. Not that it will matter, because I have no faith in who's doing the hiring.

 

[goshan]

I think there are scenarios where he keeps his job without even qualifying for the playoffs, though they're probably slim. Not sure he needs to win if he gets in, but I think he definitely stays if he gets even a wildcard victory.

I think the organization is really happy with Garrett, overall, and I think they understand that there are other challenges with this roster and the cap that they've been working around since 2010.

At some point, though, he'll lose the confidence of the players if he can't build and deliver post season wins.

There is no way Jerry would say he is 'really happy' with JG. If you think that, you are living in your on fantasy land.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

I think as always you want to see PROGRESS. You can't have a playoff game as some kind of qualifier if the team doesn't even have a playoff quality roster. I haven't decided if this team has one yet. I know for sure that the team I saw at the end of last year, with Poppinga and Frampton running around on defense, and that offensive line, was NOT a playoff quality team. Jerry can have whatever the heck aspirations he wants, but if they can't draft better, get some improvement out of certain spots, and stay healthy, it AIN'T happening.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

In the couple offseaons Jason has had as HC, i've really liked the young talent he's brought to this roster. I think we have alot of tough, smart young football players on this team. Guys who love to play the game, and play hard. What I need to see from this team this season, and i assume the organization feels the same somewhat, is tangible on field progress. We need to win more games, and we need to play more consistent football while doing it. No more of these stupid penalties, silly mistakes, not having enough guys on the field, not knowing what to do or where to be in certain situations, etc..

Jason has his guys in here now.. its time to play football the way that Jason always preaches it should be played. We need to see that this year for JG to keep his job.

My .02

 

[Idgit]

There is no way Jerry would say he is 'really happy' with JG. If you think that, you are living in your on fantasy land.

Maybe you're right, and I'm wrong.

Is the window closing and is Jason Garrett coaching for his job this year?

Jerry Jones: Well, no. No, he's not ... to the last question; is Jason coaching for his job. No. What we're doing is taking the assets that we have, and Jason being right at the top, and certainly our premier asset, and we're using them to the best of our ability...

 

[Tabascocat]

IMO, there is not one scenario where Garrett keeps his job if they miss the playoffs again, even if multiple injuries happen again.

Jerry might want to keep him but I think the public's perception/pressure will play a role in his firing.

It is playoffs or bust with possibly a win in the post-season needed.

 

[Idgit]

IMO, there is not one scenario where Garrett keeps his job if they miss the playoffs again, even if multiple injuries happen again.

Jerry might want to keep him but I think the public's perception/pressure will play a role in his firing.

It is playoffs or bust with possibly a win in the post-season needed.

I think the team playing well, with a mid/late season injury to Tony Romo and the team still competing for the postseason in week 16 or 17 might do it.

Then again, it might not. I think his odds of staying if we get into the playoffs and don't win, if we make progress in some specific areas are about 50:50. A playoff win, and he's definitely safe.

 

[Tabascocat]

I think the team playing well, with a mid/late season injury to Tony Romo and the team still competing for the postseason in week 16 or 17 might do it.

Then again, it might not. I think his odds of staying if we get into the playoffs and don't win, if we make progress in some specific areas are about 50:50. A playoff win, and he's definitely safe.

I'm not sure Romo going down would save Garrett, that is why Orton is here, a capable back-up.

I will say I like JG as a walk-around HC more so than as an offensive coordinator. I think this increases his chances of success, but it better come soon.

My current lines:
no playoffs-99% certainty of being fired
playoffs with zero wins-50/50
playoffs with one win-90% he stays
two or more-100%

 

[Beast_from_East]

Does anyone else think this is where we are? It's what I suspect. Or do you think there's some way that JG keeps his job even if there's no playoff victory? Maybe winning the NFC East with a very good record is enough, especially if whoever we face in the playoffs is very good.

I can't imagine after another 8 and 8 or worse that Garrett sticks around.

No way can Jerry sell Garrett to the fans if we don't make the playoffs this year. 3.5 seasons is more than enough time in today's NFL for a head coach to make his mark.

Tangible evidence of progress is what is needed..........that means wins.

We can draft the right kind of guys, we can have them wear suits to the games, we can have them line up in a straight line for the national anthem, we can simply the terminology on the offense, we can simply the formations on defense, we can do all of this....................

But if the team still loses the game it really doesn't matter, that's the truth.

 

[jobberone]

Tangible evidence of steady improvement is in a lot more places than wins although that's a biggie. Jerry has said 8-8 is not acceptable. He's also said, as Idgit pointed out, that he's on record as saying he's not playing for his job. I take everything Jerry says with a grain of salt but of all the things Jerry is or might be a liar is not one. He's not even very good at being quietly deceptive. So I believe him for the most part but 8-8 or worst will put Garrett on shaky ground IMO.

But he doesn't HAVE to win a playoff game although that would be a good thing for him personally. We just need to see steady improvement and despite the 8-8 records the last two, I think we are slowly closing the talent gap looking at the overall roster.

We don't know how the D will do this year and that needs to improve. We gave up, off the top of my head, either 23 or 24 ppg last year and that's unacceptable.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Tangible evidence of steady improvement is in a lot more places than wins although that's a biggie. Jerry has said 8-8 is not acceptable. He's also said, as Idgit pointed out, that he's on record as saying he's not playing for his job. I take everything Jerry says with a grain of salt but of all the things Jerry is or might be a liar is not one. He's not even very good at being quietly deceptive. So I believe him for the most part but 8-8 or worst will put Garrett on shaky ground IMO.

But he doesn't not HAVE to win a playoff game although that would be a good thing for him personally. We just need to see steady improvement and despite the 8-8 records the last two, I think we are slowly closing the talent gap looking at the overall roster.

We don't know how the D will do this year and that needs to improve. We gave up, off the top of my head, either 23 or 24 ppg last year and that's unacceptable.

No way Jerry can sell Garrett to the fans if we go 8-8 or worse for the 3rd straight season under Garrett. Jerry has a 100,000 seat stadium to sell out and telling the fans Garrett is the right man for the job, when he has been the HC for almost 4 seasons and has won jack.

Very few coaches in the NFL can last more than 4 yrs without making the playoffs and still have job security. Those that do have some major skins on the wall or previous championships to buy them time.

Garrett has neither.

 

[burmafrd]

one thing is for sure: if we hit the last game with a chance to make the playoffs and we lose then he is gone. No way will Jerruh stand for that 3 years in a row.