With Parcells; It's his way or the highway!

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Parcells has shown over his tenure as Cowboys coach that he must be in total control of everything; from personnel decisions, to Offense and Defense
systems, coaching staff, etc., etc. This has been the case up til now.

Now, he is showing his ineptness in dealing with prima donna players, injured players and JJ's favorite players. The situation with TO is totally out of (his) control and there is more trouble brewing with Vanderjagt and, also, his constant chatter about having inexperienced receivers (no fault but his own).

If TO were anyone else, Parcells would have waived him and the Cowboys would have made an injury settlement. I think JJ has stepped in, behind the scenes, and told Parcells that TO is staying (his presence sells tickets, jerseys, gains national TV and Press attention and so on). I bet it's pretty much the same with Vanderjagt who has a terrific resume. Parcells
is having a hard time dealing with this.

It comes down to this that Parcells should be fired (not likely) or retire by the end of the season. He wants it all, but simply cannot deliver it all!
 

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I totally disagree.

I think TO may be hurt. I surely don't think he'd have cut anyone with TO's ability this fast because of an injury. The reason TO is being questioned is only because of his previous attitude towards other players and teams. But But he's never refused to play ball to make a point. If TO had never sprinted to the star this wouldn't even be an issue IMO.

I don't think Parcells is inept. In fact, I'm personally more excited about our potential this year than I have been in a long time. Further, I think JJ has allowed BP for latitude to work with players (and cut players) than anyone before. He cut Henson even though the kid had a guaranteed money and was JJ's all time favorite pet (according to many posters).

I'm just curious, after you cut players like Vandy, TO and coaches like Parcells, what would you do to replace them?
 

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Scotman said:
I totally disagree.

I think TO may be hurt. I surely don't think he'd have cut anyone with TO's ability this fast because of an injury. The reason TO is being questioned is only because of his previous attitude towards other players and teams. But But he's never refused to play ball to make a point. If TO had never sprinted to the star this wouldn't even be an issue IMO.

I don't think Parcells is inept. In fact, I'm personally more excited about our potential this year than I have been in a long time. Further, I think JJ has allowed BP for latitude to work with players (and cut players) than anyone before. He cut Henson even though the kid had a guaranteed money and was JJ's all time favorite pet (according to many posters).

I'm just curious, after you cut players like Vandy, TO and coaches like Parcells, what would you do to replace them?
Your last point was my main focus. The Press has been on Parcells because they perceive he has (or is) loosing the team's respect, focus and performance. No one talks about anything but TO or other injured players.

Tell me, based on what we know about the way Parcells works, why is he keeping players who cannot play (i.e., show him nothing) and are causing a negative distraction to the team. You may not be able to replace TO and Vanderjagt, but then, they offer nothing while warming the bench.
 

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I have disagreed with some of Parcell's decisions as well but that being said, when it comes to NFL teams I do believe you need one person in charge .. you either get onboard with that person or you leave. I'm not saying Parcell's way is the best way by any means. It's like Henson for example. I liked Henson but it was obvious to me that Parcells didn't. For that reason alone, I wanted him off the roster. If the coach doesn't like a player, no matter the reason, he doesn't need to be taking up a roster spot. The team's performance will be used later to judge whether the coach will be proven right or wrong.

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Reality said:
I have disagreed with some of Parcell's decisions as well but that being said, when it comes to NFL teams I do believe you need one person in charge .. you either get onboard with that person or you leave. I'm not saying Parcell's way is the best way by any means. It's like Henson for example. I liked Henson but it was obvious to me that Parcells didn't. For that reason alone, I wanted him off the roster. If the coach doesn't like a player, no matter the reason, he doesn't need to be taking up a roster spot. The team's performance will be used later to judge whether the coach will be proven right or wrong.

-Reality
Another excellent point. I am trying to get at a position where we can determine what should be done (but isn't done). Is Parcells risking
the Teams 2006 season by favoring TO and Vanderjagt? Is Parcells
loosing his coaching leadsership for the sake of JJ's or other interests?
I hear many contradictory statement from Parcells, that I wonder about
the overall good of the team.

We who are fans have seen a lot of bad Cowboy teams over the past 9 years, such that I now question what Parcells brings to the table in 2006!
 

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mwmilsted said:
Parcells has shown over his tenure as Cowboys coach that he must be in total control of everything; from personnel decisions, to Offense and Defense
systems, coaching staff, etc., etc. This has been the case up til now.

Now, he is showing his ineptness in dealing with prima donna players, injured players and JJ's favorite players. The situation with TO is totally out of (his) control and there is more trouble brewing with Vanderjagt and, also, his constant chatter about having inexperienced receivers (no fault but his own).

If TO were anyone else, Parcells would have waived him and the Cowboys would have made an injury settlement. I think JJ has stepped in, behind the scenes, and told Parcells that TO is staying (his presence sells tickets, jerseys, gains national TV and Press attention and so on). I bet it's pretty much the same with Vanderjagt who has a terrific resume. Parcells
is having a hard time dealing with this.

It comes down to this that Parcells should be fired (not likely) or retire by the end of the season. He wants it all, but simply cannot deliver it all!

Parcells will handle this and I don't think there is any thought by BP or the Cowboys to waive TO. No doubt this whole ordeal has been discouraging especially when paying out big buck to 2 FA and neither guy has been able to do anything to this point. As I said yesterday I'm willing to go out on a limb and say TO will be back at practice next week and hopefully get some action in the last pre-season game.
 

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Jimmy wasn't the same coach in Miami.

Landry clearly wasn't the same coach towards the end.

Seeing a trend here?

The man coaching this team is not the same coach he once was. Still a good defensive coach and defensive talent evaluator, but on offense....well....:confused:


This OL and the 2 TE offense, and his play calling, I don't believe will get us too far.
 

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noshame said:
Jimmy wasn't the same coach in Miami.

Landry clearly wasn't the same coach towards the end.

Seeing a trend here?

The man coaching this team is not the same coach he once was. Still a good defensive coach and defensive talent evaluator, but on offense....well....:confused:


This OL and the 2 TE offense, and his play calling, I don't believe will get us too far.

We will play the games and find out, I think your wrong. I think this team has a good chance to do a lot of good things this year
 

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We will play the games and find out, I think your wrong. I think this team has a good chance to do a lot of good things this year
Well then, I take you to mean that no one knows what we have in Parcells
and we will have to wait to January to find out. I think Parcells is merely
sulking over the fact (my opinion) that JJ will not let him have total control
over running the team.
 

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mwmilsted said:
Well then, I take you to mean that no one knows what we have in Parcells
and we will have to wait to January to find out. I think Parcells is merely
sulking over the fact (my opinion) that JJ will not let him have total control
over running the team.

Not what I mean at all. I think Parcells is one of the top coaches in the NFL and knows what he is doing. If Bill did not like it here he would not sulk he would walk he does not need to do this he coaches because that is what he loves to do. Do you really think he is a slave to this job with no options out there? your kidding yourself.
 

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Doomsday101 said:
Not what I mean at all. I think Parcells is one of the top coaches in the NFL and knows what he is doing. If Bill did not like it here he would not sulk he would walk he does not need to do this he coaches because that is what he loves to do. Do you really think he is a slave to this job with no options out there? your kidding yourself.



$$$$ might be a small factor. In case you missed the deal at season's end last year.:eek:
 

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$$$$ might be a small factor. In case you missed the deal at season's end last year.:eek:

He was working at ESPN before he came to Dallas. I know the contract he got with Dallas but he is not hard up for money and could easily get another job. He is well respected even if that is not the case with some of our own fans.
 

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mwmilsted said:
Now, he is showing his ineptness in dealing with prima donna players, injured players and JJ's favorite players. The situation with TO is totally out of (his) control and there is more trouble brewing with Vanderjagt and, also, his constant chatter about having inexperienced receivers (no fault but his own).

You obviously have NEVER followed Parcells career very much if you think he has trouble dealing with Prima Donna players. Do the names Lawrence Taylor, and Brian Cox ring a bell?

Heck, Parcells went as far as to go get Brian Cox to join him in New England when noone else wanted anything to do with him, because he was such a Prima Donna. Heck, Brian Cox the Terrell Owens of his time, until Bill Parcells found him.
 

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noshame said:
Jimmy wasn't the same coach in Miami.

Landry clearly wasn't the same coach towards the end.

Seeing a trend here?

The man coaching this team is not the same coach he once was. Still a good defensive coach and defensive talent evaluator, but on offense....well....:confused:


This OL and the 2 TE offense, and his play calling, I don't believe will get us too far.

I think the reason for Jimmy's original success with the Cowboys was because he knew all the college players that came into the league during his first few years since he had recruited them or tried to and also competed against them in clooege and at draft time he put that knowledge to work. When he got to the Dolphins, he didn't know the new college guys and his guesses weren't any better than anyone else's.

I agree the OL is suspect but I think the 2TE offense will do OK. I agree that BP's play-calling sucks and he's made his share of lousy decisions here, but he is infinitely better than Jethro. My worst long term fear is that BP will have success and Jethro will think it was all due to his own brilliance and that now he is really ready to resume making all the decisions after BP leaves and he will run this team into the ground again, just like he did the team Jimmy built.

:eek:
 

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You obviously have NEVER followed Parcells career very much if you think he has trouble dealing with Prima Donna players. Do the names Lawrence Taylor, and Brian Cox ring a bell?

Heck, Parcells went as far as to go get Brian Cox to join him in New England when noone else wanted anything to do with him, because he was such a Prima Donna. Heck, Brian Cox the Terrell Owens of his time, until Bill Parcells found him.
I was not talking about former palyers, only the current ones.
 

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I was not talking about former palyers, only the current ones.

He can't deal with Prima Donna players now, even though he could then because Terrell Owens is injured?

I don't even want to know your answer to that, it is already hurting my head just thinking along that line. I am definately dumber for getting in this converstion already.
 

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He can't deal with Prima Donna players now, even though he could then because Terrell Owens is injured?

I don't even want to know your answer to that, it is already hurting my head just thinking along that line. I am definately dumber for getting in this converstion already.
touche!!!
 

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Clearly Flo is faking the calf injury to get out of practice and Saturday's game. Parcells has lost control. Flo needs to be cut now.:rolleyes:
 

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Clearly Flo is faking the calf injury to get out of practice and Saturday's game. Parcells has lost control. Flo needs to be cut now.:rolleyes:
I think you're faking it too. We should cut you, also.
 
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