Would you hire Mike Zimmer

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No. I would want someone that can keep Jerry in check instead of keeping him engaged. I think there are coaches that can drown out Jerry's noise and still install a real football team operation complete with an actual style, personality and philosophy. Finding RKGs is not a philosophy. It's a player profile.
 

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I like Zimmer. He has come a long way since he was our DC. He is a respected football coach. I would like him as HC.

That being said, after Garrett, I would prefer an innovative mind type-as opposed to solidfootball guy type
 

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if the inevitable occurs and we are without a head coach?

I think Zimmer will make a very good Head Coach, but I think the familiarity that Jerry and Mike have will cost him credibility in Dallas. I think he is a tough coach but Jerry's meddling will prevent him from demanding the respect he will get elsewhere. so no not a good fit IMO only because of Jerry.
 

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I would stop messing around and bring in a proven SB winning coach, at least for the remainder of Romo's career.

Holmgren would be my top choice.
 

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if the inevitable occurs and we are without a head coach?

I would be much more open to it if he hadn't already been here. It would seem difficult for him to return and expect to be an authoritarian in the least with the structure of the organization.
 

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I would stop messing around and bring in a proven SB winning coach, at least for the remainder of Romo's career.

Holmgren would be my top choice.

I have a feeling he would be Jerry's next choice too. I am way OK with that.
 

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Maybe not my first choice if I could have my pick of anyone, but yes, I'd take him and I think he'd be good. He's the polar opposite of Garrett. Zimmer came up the hard way and earned it. He's also a tough guy drill sergeant type who wouldn't settle for any crap, unlike Garrett who seems more concerned with being a good politician and praising/having a huge smile for everyone. Zimmer has also proven (via past media reports) that he doesn't mind telling Jerry to go to hell when necessary, which is probably critical for this job.

If anything he might be too intense and demanding in the long run, but I'd still take it. With the clock ticking on Romo's career, I'm not too worried about the long term.

Someone said Zim would be a step down from Garrett... I'd be curious to hear what evidence they have for that kind of thinking.
 

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Maybe not my first choice if I could have my pick of anyone, but yes, I'd take him and I think he'd be good. He's the polar opposite of Garrett. Zimmer came up the hard way and earned it. He's also a tough guy drill sergeant type who wouldn't settle for any crap, unlike Garrett who seems more concerned with being a good politician and praising/having a huge smile for everyone. Zimmer has also proven (via past media reports) that he doesn't mind telling Jerry to go to hell when necessary, which is probably critical for this job.

If anything he might be too intense and demanding in the long run, but I'd still take it. With the clock ticking on Romo's career, I'm not too worried about the long term.

Someone said Zim would be a step down from Garrett... I'd be curious to hear what evidence they have for that kind of thinking.


that someone is a known garrett apologist
 

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Yeah and Bill Parcells was only great because he had LT wreaking havoc. Funny how that works.

I know you were being a little sarcastic, .. but there is still a lot of truth to that.

No matter who the coach is, .. he has to have good players.
 

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...Someone said Zim would be a step down from Garrett... I'd be curious to hear what evidence they have for that kind of thinking.

That was me. My feelings on Jason Garrett's strengths have been on record forever, and nothing that's happened this season has changed any of that in the slightest.

I also was one of the very few around here who also liked Mike Zimmer because he always was an obviously good coach.

I can't give you evidence of something that hasn't happened, but I based that opinion on the idea that, while Zimmer's a good defensive coordinator, he's not a significant improvement over the coordinators we already have on that side of the ball. We wouldn't know what he might do offensively, because that's a function of who he brings in as an OC. The biggest limitation I see for him as a HC candidate when compared to Garrett is that I don't think he's likely to handle the Joneses, the media in Dallas, and the national perception nearly as well as Jason Garrrett does. I believe Jason Garrett's fairly unique in that regard and we'd need a coach with some significant skins on the wall or a unique personality to come in to Dallas and do as well.

To address visionary's passive-aggressive dig, I'm not a Garrett apologist because Jason Garrett really has nothing to apologize for.

And re: this thread in general, the question is moot because the organization is high on Jason Garrett. The players are high on Jason Garrett. His own coaches are high on Jason Garrett. The guy's got a lot going for him, despite the fact that the team didn't get over the hump his first two seasons. He's got us leading the East right now, winning 3 of 4 and having swept the first round of NFCE match ups. I really don't see what all this skittishness is about. There's a lot of football left to play, and a lot can happen--good or bad--between now and then. We just have to wait and see whether or not the repetition and the focus on process is going to eventually pay off. If it doesn't, we'll be looking for another coach this offseason or next, and then you can all start worrying about that guy's inability to get us to an immediate Superbowl.
 

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I know you were being a little sarcastic, .. but there is still a lot of truth to that.

No matter who the coach is, .. he has to have good players.

I was but at least you got the point. As I said right now I'm not looking for a new HC, we have 7 games to go this season is far from over. As for Zimmer if Dallas were to make a change at HC I would have no problem with Zimmer but again if you hire a HC he has to have time to put his system in place. People point to 1 or 2 teams and act as if it happens overnight and the fact is the vast majority of time it does not happen overnight it take time and that is something this fan base will not allow and that is time to do the job.
 

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Maybe not my first choice if I could have my pick of anyone, but yes, I'd take him and I think he'd be good. He's the polar opposite of Garrett. Zimmer came up the hard way and earned it. He's also a tough guy drill sergeant type who wouldn't settle for any crap, unlike Garrett who seems more concerned with being a good politician and praising/having a huge smile for everyone. Zimmer has also proven (via past media reports) that he doesn't mind telling Jerry to go to hell when necessary, which is probably critical for this job.

If anything he might be too intense and demanding in the long run, but I'd still take it. With the clock ticking on Romo's career, I'm not too worried about the long term.

Someone said Zim would be a step down from Garrett... I'd be curious to hear what evidence they have for that kind of thinking.

I personally think Zimmer would be an excellent HC for a team that has a strong organizational structure. He is a tremendous DC. And I think *EVERYONE* would agree that he is a better DC than Garrett an OC.

But having followed his time both here and with the Bengals, I dont see him being able to handle the Jones' and the circus that comes with it. He would be excellent as the HC of a team like the Ravens - a team that is old school with a very good GM.
 

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I thought Zimmer should of been the head coach when Parcells left...

That would've been great. You know Parcells would've endorsed it, too. He loved Zim.

Problem is, what if he didn't want Garrett? And Garrett as OC and future HC was Jerry's #1 concern with that HC hire. That's why Norv wasn't going to take the job.

To Idgit... I know you like Garrett but I didn't really get what is better about him than Zimmer, other than he's smoother with the media and Jerry has a special love for him. But we know Zimmer is pretty close with Jerry, too. Maybe not to family portrait level, but it's a good relationship.
 
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