Would you take a 1st and 4th for Romo

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CowboyChris said:
I'll cheer for whoever start at QB even if its Sanchez, the point of the thread was if you would take a 1st and 4th for Romo, not to criticize Romo or anyone, i was responding earlier to someone who needed to get a grip on reality.
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That's great. I hope you do that. Call me crazy, but I don't believe you. Anyone that would willingly and happily give up a paltry 1st and 4th round pick for Tony Romo is indirectly being highly critical of him. Whether it's their foolish acceptance of media driven narratives such as him being an "interception machine" (False), or a "choker" (False), or "injury prone" (Patently False). The only individuals that need to get a grip on reality are those that would stupidly accept the hypothetical trade put forth in the thread title
 
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CowboyChris said:
he's #4 on that list you cited. that list is past history...surely you know that.
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I'm still not understanding your Steve Young angle, but let me ask you this:

Would you accept a 1st and 4th for Steve Young if you're Eddie DeBartolo?

hint: No way in hell
 
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I'm still not understanding your Steve Young angle, but let me ask you this:

Would you accept a 1st and 4th for Steve Young if you're Eddie DeBartolo?

hint: No way in hell
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maybe i can clarify it for you....you previously stated that Romo was a top 5 QB, and I said he WAS..(with me so far) then you linked that link for proof....(hope you are still with me) then i replied....interesting Steve Young is #4 on your list!! so if he un-retired...would he also be a top 5 QB??? hope you see the angle now.
 
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dewby said:
Makes me wanna get off this ******* board. Seriously. Bunch of sellouts on here, y'all have absolutely no faith, whatsoever. Most pathetic thing I've ever seen from a fan base. If you even call yourselves fans.

Worthless. **** yall.
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Usually a fanbase has more faith in someone or something which has proven themselves as champions or been there before.

I don't recall this lack of faith during the 70's or 90's? But I do recall it back in the 60's and 80's.

There was much more hope in his prime. I think we all recall the spark initially provided much like we're feeling now from another young gun.

Old legends never die but new ones are born everyday. Know when to say when.

And believe what you will but don't dont expect everyone to have the same faith without a proven commodity. It doesn't lessen our fandom or elevate others simply because we don't have as much faith.

These aren't our children, our loved ones who we are necessarily emotionally attached unconditionally . These are moving parts which we don't have to accept or embrace them all to support the sum.
 
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maybe i can clarify it for you....you previously stated that Romo was a top 5 QB
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actually, what I said was Romo is a top 5 QB in All-Time passer rating. He is currently rated #3 to be accurate
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, and I said he WAS
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which is wrong
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Steve Young is #4 on your list!! so if he un-retired...would he also be a top 5 QB???
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First off I'm going to answer your asinine question, yes he would be a top 5 QB. Second you're proposing a hypothetical scenario that is completely implausible (Steve Young is not going to un-retire) in a feeble attempt to support some misguided point that is completely unrelated to the hypothetical, yet completely plausible ( the Cowboys could stupidly accepting a 1st and 4th for Romo at some point), scenario at hand, which completely undermines and invalidates any argument you were trying to make
 
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actually, what I said was Romo is a top 5 QB in All-Time passer rating. He is currently rated #3 to be accurate

which is wrong

First off I'm going to answer your asinine question, yes he would be a top 5 QB. Second you're proposing a hypothetical scenario that is completely implausible (Steve Young is not going to un-retire) in a feeble attempt to support some misguided point that is completely unrelated to the hypothetical, yet completely plausible ( the Cowboys could stupidly accepting a 1st and 4th for Romo at some point), scenario at hand, which completely undermines and invalidates any argument you were trying to make
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If you think going forward Romo and Young would be top 5 QB's in this league.... then a 1st and 4th would be insult...i happen to think differently so will leave it at that.
 
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pugilist said:
actually, what I said was Romo is a top 5 QB in All-Time passer rating. He is currently rated #3 to be accurate

which is wrong

First off I'm going to answer your asinine question, yes he would be a top 5 QB. Second you're proposing a hypothetical scenario that is completely implausible (Steve Young is not going to un-retire) in a feeble attempt to support some misguided point that is completely unrelated to the hypothetical, yet completely plausible (Cowboys stupidly accepting a 1st and 4th for Romo), scenario at hand, which completely undermines and invalidates any argument you were trying to make
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The point is Romo's worth at this point in his career is not what it was even as recent as 2014.

It doesn't mean he's still not capable of winning it all but since he hasn't yet and with his recent injury history and age unfortunately it does lessen his value in a trade type situation.

This is what I interpreted from his point . It appears some fans struggle with their emotions attached. We must always keep in mind this is a business first.

We will continue to believe Romo is our best option until he's not or it appears we have a better option but to some fans who aren't as emotionally attached they do see his value across the league has lessened in such a scenario as being discussed.
 
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No. 100% absolutely no chance I'd even consider it. Are guys kidding me? Romo will know when it's time to retire and hang it up and until he makes that decision than I am with Romo. Let's not forget who Romo is here:
since he was named the starter of the Cowboys he has the most 4th quarter comebacks in the league
best passer rating in the 4th quarter in NFL history
2014 best passer rating over, should have been MVP
Undisputed leader of this team and is more of a coach than Garrett
Knows the offense better than anyone

My point is Romo is one of the best players in the NFL, it's not like he's some scrub that is a veteran and got injured and we're all excited about the rookie. Romo is an amazing player and our best chance to win a super bowl in the next 1-3 years. Dak is awesome but he's not going to win us a super bowl this year or next year or in 2018. Nobody we trade for could get us there in the time Romo can.

So basically the question is would you trade our best chance to win the super bowl in the recent future for a #1 and a #4 round pick. I wouldn't even consider that trade.

A lot of people wanted Aikman gone towards the end of his career with his back and concussions. Then after Quincy carter, Testeverde, Drew Henson, Clint Stoerner, Ryan Leaf, Anthony Wright, Drew Bledsoe, we all remembered what quarterback looks like when #9 came onto the field.

Look I'm as excited about Dak and everybody and I'm as discouraged about Romo's injury issue as everybody, with that being said, if I'm gambling on the next 3 years on the QB position, I'm putting all I got on Romo. Injuries included, because I know what the man can do when he's healthy and if he's healthy then we got a shot.
 
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The point is Romo's worth at this point in his career is not what it was even as recent as 2014.

It doesn't mean he's still not capable of winning it all but since he hasn't yet and with his recent injury history and age unfortunately it does lessen his value in a trade type situation.

This is what I interpreted from his point . It appears some fans struggle with their emotions attached. We must always keep in mind this is a business first.

We will continue to believe Romo is our best option until he's not or it appears we have a better option but to some fans who aren't as emotionally attached they do see his value across the league has lessened in such a scenario as being discussed.
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to put it in a more simple way.....Romo's best years are behind him. As I have said previously, Romo is a liability going forward.
 
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dewby said:
******* idiots I cannot wait until Romo comes back halfway through the season and proves each and every single one of you *******s wrong and takes us all the way through the playoffs.

No faith in this fanbase. Seriously. It's disgusting.
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I was a Cowboys fan long before I was a Tony Romo fan. My loyalty will always be to the star and not the player. I don't give a rip who our QB is as long as we win
 
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okstateCowboy said:
I was a Cowboys fan long before I was a Tony Romo fan. My loyalty will always be to the star and not the player. I don't give a rip who our QB is as long as we win
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In a Fantasy era we are seeing more attachment and loyalty to individual players. Romo is why many fans were attracted to become Cowboy fans.

But individual players especially popular QB's have always attracted fans. We saw it in the 70's and 90's as well . I don't recall an era though where one player has attracted as many without more team success .
 
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If we were in the Vikings situation where we thought we were a playoff team that just lost their QB for the season would we make the deal for Bradford is a better hypothetical scenario.

Especially if we didn't just have the best performance ever in our history from a Rookie QB in preseason . But we're still only counting on him hopefully for less than half a season.

Maybe a better question is would we trade Dak for a 1st rd pick? I'm not sure I would today but I might after a few games. Haha
 
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