WP - Skins drove up price on Davis $20M Guaranteed!

MossBurner

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Where are all the Boys fans who called him a lazy, underachieving bum who would get overpaid by Snyder. Looks to me like times have changed!

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[FONT=Times New Roman,times,serif] If what I am hearing from some agents - who are not directly involved in the negotiations - is true, then Leonard Davis is about to pocket close to $20 million guarnated of Jerry Jones's money, and the Skins have shown some welcome restraint.
This dude is a classic trap. Yeah, he's big and atheltic, but he also has a six-year body of work that shows he is exactly what he is. He was a big-time underachiver, but could always do just enough to make some scouts think, maybe, just maybe, if the work ethic improved the intensity cranked up he could be a beast. But he had serious warts and giving this guy Hutchinson/Dockery/Steinbach money - never thought I'd write this sentence - is way too dangerous.
If The Snyder and Coach Joe would have actually paid this dude I know several people at Commanders Park would have given up and thrown themselves off the roof.
The Cowboys were his primary suitors all along - many at The Park never figured he'd leave there without a contract in the first place - and after the Dockery signing came through, Davis's price went up. Dallas balked at first, so he jumped a plane to Ashburn, but I never got the feeling the Skins were going all out in any way to keep him. If anything I think they were finally on the receiving end of some gamesmanship, driving the price up and making Jerry nervous, rather in years past when other teams and agents used them as pawns to get the Redsking to essentially bid against themselves for certain free agents.
I also don't blame the Skins for holding the line on Dockery. At the end of the day we're still talking about a solid but unspectacular GUARD who had a strong 2006 season but also his share of struggles before that. Don't get me wrong, Dock could be the complete package and maybe his offseason dedication in 2006 is a sign of things to come, but still, for that kind of money? I can't see it. You're giving guards who never have shown a Pro Bowl pedigree more money than a lot of left tackles make.
So where do the Skins go now? Well, I think you can still get a solid guard on the street. Again,. talk to football people and they will tell you this is the easiest position to replace. You can slide backup centers and tackle often to the position and make the switch. Gaurds get the most help on the offensive line and it's the easiest position to get a starter out of the draft in the mid round in the draft (if the Skins trade down as many in the building hope to, look for them try to pick up a guard in the third round or so).
There were people on the staff who liked Montrae Holland, who signed a $1 million deal in Denver yesterday. Adam Timmerman would know the system from his time with Al Saunders in St. Louis, but many scouts think he's probably done a sa productive player. The sense I get is that there will be no rush here.
They'll also look for a tight end, probably even this week. But I don't see them breaking the bank there either.
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Sorry buy The Cowboys already knew the skins couldnt afford him you guys didnt drive anything up. He just went to get his free 100 dollar meal
 

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The Foreskins didn't drive up anything. They never had the capability to sign Davis and Jones knew it. He got paid market value. If believing your Foreskins had anything to do with this signing makes you feel good about yourself, have at it.
 

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Well, I don't buy that you guys could even afford him.

Sorry.

I think it has less to do with restraint and more to do with restraints for the Skins.

Anyone who thinks Steinbach and Dockery deserve what they got is equally crazy. They are only ok.

We will see what JJ ultimately decided to give.
 

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nice jerry way to spend 20 million on a weak overrated tackle! thats where he will be this year dont worry....and now he has his money...he may play worse...and when gurode falls off cause he got his money we are done
 

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MossBurner;1404299 said:
If The Snyder and Coach Joe would have actually paid this dude I know several people at Commanders Park would have given up and thrown themselves off the roof.
Damn. I was going to buy tickets to see that. :(
 

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NO Guard with worth 20M guaranteed!

If that was market value, so be it. But the market was a sellers' one this year, and a few average players really benefited.

This particular weekend of FA is going to change the face of the NFL, I'm afraid. Things will never be the same.
 

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just goes to show the Commanders cant do a damn thing right :D
 

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that jason laconfora is tool.

He is right about this though. The money this guy is reportedly getting is bizzare.

Bad way to do deals.

Having said that a Commanders fan coming here to gloat about free agent contracts is hillarious.

You have the highest paid player at safety ever and he is a part time special teamer and everyone knew that last year. I remember he is the better than williams etc. threads.....
 

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BigDFan5;1404310 said:
Sorry buy The Cowboys already knew the skins couldnt afford him you guys didnt drive anything up. He just went to get his free 100 dollar meal

....And free tics to the basketball game. I've read all over this board,and others,about the so called work ethic of Davis being rather suspect. The one wild card no one has mentioned is Wade Phillips,and the fact that he has a reputation of getting the best out of his players. Heres one to start with!
 

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Just because the unused money was lying around doesn't mean it was worth spending on a bum.

Extending popular, home-grown performers would be a better use, in my opinion.
 

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When he is mauling people from his RG spot and opening hugh holes for JJ and Barber, especially near the goalline, it will look like money well spent. The guy has played well at gaurd in the past. When he gets his hands on you its over, noone is going to bullrush him in the middle. If we resign Columbo, the OL will be much improved. As far as the skins driving up the price, its a nice story I'm sure skins fans will fall for, but the fact is the market drove up the price not the skins. Some other team would have brought him in because all the top OL are off the market. Dockery, Steinbach, and Deilman are responsible for driving Davis' price up, not the skins. He was going to get his money no matter what!!!
 

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You guys do realize that this was written by a Washington Post beat reporter who, in no way, drinks the Kool Aid that comes out of Commander Park, don't you?
 

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MossBurner;1404332 said:
NO Guard with worth 20M guaranteed!

If that was market value, so be it. But the market was a sellers' one this year, and a few average players really benefited.

This particular weekend of FA is going to change the face of the NFL, I'm afraid. Things will never be the same.

Dude.....Four words....

Adam Archuletta
TJ Duckett
 

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MossBurner;1404332 said:
NO Guard with worth 20M guaranteed!

If that was market value, so be it. But the market was a sellers' one this year, and a few average players really benefited.

This particular weekend of FA is going to change the face of the NFL, I'm afraid. Things will never be the same.
The market's the market. That's what happens when the cap sky rockets.

You're dead on with that last sentence. Now every player under contract is licking his chops. The cap will eventually disappear.
 

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MossBurner;1404341 said:
Just because the unused money was lying around doesn't mean it was worth spending on a bum.

Extending popular, home-grown performers would be a better use, in my opinion.
~choking from the irony~

:lmao2:
 

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Cowboys22;1404343 said:
When he is mauling people from his RG spot and opening hugh holes for JJ and Barber, especially near the goalline, it will look like money well spent. The guy has played well at gaurd in the past. When he gets his hands on you its over, noone is going to bullrush him in the middle. If we resign Columbo, the OL will be much improved. As far as the skins driving up the price, its a nice story I'm sure skins fans will fall for, but the fact is the market drove up the price not the skins. Some other team would have brought him in because all the top OL are off the market. Dockery, Steinbach, and Deilman are responsible for driving Davis' price up, not the skins. He was going to get his money no matter what!!!

the guy was told he may play tackle...he wants to play tackle. and we have no tackle...he is going to play tackle!
 

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MossBurner;1404341 said:
Just because the unused money was lying around doesn't mean it was worth spending on a bum.

Extending popular, home-grown performers would be a better use, in my opinion.


You mean like we have already done. Our whole team is set for years.

We have two positions not locked up and they will be by training camp.

Again a Commanders fan coming here to gloat over this type of thing is hillarious.
 

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theebs;1404337 said:
that jason laconfora is tool.

He is right about this though. The money this guy is reportedly getting is bizzare.

Bad way to do deals.

Having said that a Commanders fan coming here to gloat about free agent contracts is hillarious.

You have the highest paid player at safety ever and he is a part time special teamer and everyone knew that last year. I remember he is the better than williams etc. threads.....

Some people really don't understand contracts!

Highest paid safety in the NFL. He will never see one-third of that money. He got ~10M guaranteed. His base salaries the first three years are under 4M combined. After that he will be released or restructured. Get a clue.
 
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