WR group coming together?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by DasSchnitzel, Mar 15, 2019.

  1. BigCatMonaco

    BigCatMonaco Well-Known Member

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    Please point out where I labeled him the next AB, I can wait. The fact remains that vs division 1 college competition he produced comparably to the top guys and graded out better than most actually. Pair that with the fact he didn’t drop his key targets and damn near led the nation in deep yards, pardon me for believing he has potential.
     
  2. BigCatMonaco

    BigCatMonaco Well-Known Member

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    He was a sixth round pick because he’s 6’2-6’3 and 190 pounds coming out and went to Boise.
     
  3. charron

    charron Well-Known Member

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    and there were much better options throught most of the draft untill our late 6th round pick.
     
  4. jobberone

    jobberone Kane Ala Staff Member

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    Our R2 is our R1 or first pick.
     
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  5. jobberone

    jobberone Kane Ala Staff Member

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    Brown compares roughly to Dez biometric wise.
     
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  6. The Quest for Six

    The Quest for Six Well-Known Member

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    not wasting a second or third round pick on a wide receiver that isn't going to help this team this year...DT, LB or cb
     
  7. Irvin88_4life

    Irvin88_4life Well-Known Member

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    I didn't say you made up tar he was hurt the first padded practice. Perhaps i didn't make it clear, my fault. I was talking about Wilson not looking better than Gallup at first. Wilson was looking better but we don't know if he could have carried that over through the season. Maybe Gallup started off slow.

    Doesn't matter either way. The top 2 spots are locked with Cooper and Gallup. Every receiver we have or will sign or draft will have a chance to win tar 3rd spot. Personally i think it will be Wilson but it's a competition I'm looking forward to in camp.
     
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  8. Idgit

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    Have we fixed the red zone problem by bringing Witten back? Because I don’t think so.
     
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  9. Manwiththeplan

    Manwiththeplan Well-Known Member

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    I never said that Wilson did or didn't look better, I'm just pointing out how little it means to look better through 2 days of practice.
     
  10. DasSchnitzel

    DasSchnitzel Well-Known Member

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    After thinking it over, if we take a WR in R2 or R3 then he better be damn good.

    Consider this. We just spent our 2019 1st on Cooper. Are we really about to spend our 2019 2nd on the same position when Heath is our starting safety, our best DE wont go get his surgery, and our 2nd best DE is either Crawford or Taco?

    To me, double dipping like that would be a poor distribution of resources. We aren't bad enough at WR to justify it. I think Cooper and Gallup will have a lot of people saying we're pretty good at WR by this time next year.
     
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  11. CowboyRoy

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    I honestly think we are all set at WR. Very very happy with the group. What this team REALLY needs is a great young TE that can block and create mismatches in the middle of the field and the redzone. A big, dependable target for Dak.
     
  12. Irvin88_4life

    Irvin88_4life Well-Known Member

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    I can agree somewhat with that
     
  13. Cowboysheelsreds053

    Cowboysheelsreds053 Well-Known Member

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    Agree with everything said, as much as I want D, I would not be upset in the least if taken at 58.
     
  14. rocyaice

    rocyaice Well-Known Member

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    Not at all. Its suppose to be a heavy defensive line draft....I'd love to snag those guys but with as late as we pick....I'm more interested in getting playmakers. Going to be interesting to see if they will try trade up. I imagine or the right guy they will.
     
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  15. Zekeats

    Zekeats theranchsucks

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    You didn't mention the guy whos gonna surprise the most, Devin Smith.
     
  16. jobberone

    jobberone Kane Ala Staff Member

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    Agreed. DL esp edge rusher
     
  17. armadillooutlaw

    armadillooutlaw Well-Known Member

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    Beyond Lawrence the cup is pretty bare (not counting Randy "Chong" Gregory IMO.
    DT could also use a high draft pick, too.
    I would love a thick 3T that can get after the QB and be just as stout against the run.
     
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  18. DasSchnitzel

    DasSchnitzel Well-Known Member

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    Bumping this with the Cobb acquisition.

    So at this moment, as a starting point, this is a likely WR group:
    Cooper
    Gallup
    Cobb
    Hurns
    Wilson
    Austin

    My thoughts on Cobb:

    He's going to be good here, on gameday and for the younger WRs. Its hard to imagine Cobb as just the WR3. Behind Zeke he's at most our 4th option. That's pretty sick. I predict several low target games and the occasional stat explosion when some defense decides they can't cover everybody and then forgets him.

    I can't imagine they commit 11M in cap hits combined to the WR3 and WR4. There have been comparisons to Beasley in other threads, but in my mind, Beasley is already gone so the Hurns comparison matters more.

    Hurns' line last year was 20/295/2. On only 9 games, Cobb's line was 38/383/2. Hurns is an expensive luxury now and I can't see this front office paying 6M for him. I think they'd just assume roll the cap over at that point.

    That just leaves the draft and with Cobb serving as a bridge player a draft pick makes some sense. My preference is to leave Wilson and Brown the room to develop and invest elsewhere, Cobb or another guy can be signed next offseason if need be.

    So that leaves me hoping for:

    Cooper
    Gallup
    Cobb
    Austin
    Wilson
    Brown

    No WR draft picks, +4M in cap savings from Hurns, and Cobb is a -1M net cap hit from before he signed.
     
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  19. bb721

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    Yet there were still 25 wide receivers chosen in the 2018 draft before Wilson. That says a lot about what teams felt about those particular “grades”
     
  20. DakPresgoat

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    I think having Frederick back will help the redzone immensely.

    He paved the way for Zeke down there.
     
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