Yet another McFadden hypothetical

[TheCount]

Say we end up with the 6th overall pick and a 28th overall (you can imagine it's pick 32 if that makes you feel better) and someone ahead of us is also in the market for a franchise RB.

They demand our two first round picks, to give us the pick we would need to get him, do you pull the trigger or take your chances with another RB?

Remember that if we give up those two picks, we don't pick again till late in the second, so we don't have much of a chance at one of the better CB's or WR, or whatever.

 

[DallasEast]

If we pick McFadden, the selection will hinge on Cleveland's final regular season record and their placement in the draft's order. If it's a high (i.e. top five) pick, there will probably be very little maneuvering for Jones to do in order to select him. If it's Cleveland's pick falls out of the top 10, we'll probably look at other guys as a first 1st round pick.

 

[AbeBeta]

Say we end up with the 6th overall pick and a 28th overall (you can imagine it's pick 32 if that makes you feel better) and someone ahead of us is also in the market for a franchise RB.

They demand our two first round picks, to give us the pick we would need to get him, do you pull the trigger or take your chances with another RB?

Remember that if we give up those two picks, we don't pick again till late in the second, so we don't have much of a chance at one of the better CB's or WR, or whatever.

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[Big Dakota]

Say we end up with the 6th overall pick and a 28th overall (you can imagine it's pick 32 if that makes you feel better) and someone ahead of us is also in the market for a franchise RB.

They demand our two first round picks, to give us the pick we would need to get him, do you pull the trigger or take your chances with another RB?

Remember that if we give up those two picks, we don't pick again till late in the second, so we don't have much of a chance at one of the better CB's or WR, or whatever.

What pick will DMac be available at??


The old draft trade chart is just about obsolete, but let's use it for this hypothetical.

We have #6 and it is worth 1600 points.Your hypothetical #28 is worth 660, for a total of 2260 points.

#5= 1700
#4= 1800
#3= 2200
#2= 2600
#1= 3000

So, in theory, using the old chart, we could move from #6, to #3, using the #6 combined with the #28.

Would i do #6 and #28 for DMac if he were there @ #3? YES! Would i throw in a 3rd as well(about 300 points) to move up to #2 for DMac? YES!

Then i'd take the best CB/WR in the late 2nd/3rd and work off FA for my other needs.

 

[sago1]

The reality is we will need 2 good CBs -- 1 to replace Glenn & the other to backup/challenge/succeed Anthony Henry. Now if Ball develops enough maybe next year he could replace Glenn but we still need that young #1 type CB who can start if/when Henry goes down.

 

[Hostile]

Say we end up with the 6th overall pick and a 28th overall (you can imagine it's pick 32 if that makes you feel better) and someone ahead of us is also in the market for a franchise RB.

They demand our two first round picks, to give us the pick we would need to get him, do you pull the trigger or take your chances with another RB?

Remember that if we give up those two picks, we don't pick again till late in the second, so we don't have much of a chance at one of the better CB's or WR, or whatever.

6 and 28.

Using this chart, that would be 1600 and 660 points for a total of 2260. That could get you the 3rd pick in the Draft (2200), unless the #2 pick (2600) wanted to avoid the big signing bonus while stockpiling picks and gave you a break.

Brian Brohm may go #1 and McFadden #3 if someone else needs OL, DL, or another QB rises up the charts.

A very big part of me wants McFadden. I'd be just as happy with the 2 picks in round 1 as trading both to get him.

 

[Ashwynn]

I am not sold on any one guy at this point. I say let the seasons play out and 1) see whos stepping up to be worthy of the #1 pick, 2) see what you need more, a franchise RB, WR or an elite CB (to pair with Newman) or a Pass Rushing monster? Leave yourself as many options as you can. Maybe you can trade down a few spots and pick up an extra 2nd or third and still get the guy you need. You can certainly package and move up anywhere in the draft.

 

[Tristan]

It really depends on how things unfold. In my mind it also depends on whether Slaton comes out as well. I love Mcfadden, and if our scouts feel that he is hands down the best RB, then I say get him, whatever the cost.

Remember, the first from Cle. essentially cost us a 3&5, I keep that in mind when throwing in the extra 1 for the player I wanted all along.

If Romo struggles, this is a moot point, we throw all in for Brohm, who I have gone on record stating is the best passer to come out since Carson Palmer.

The real question I think i'm going to have trouble with is Mcfadden/Slaton. I have Mcfadden as #1, but the more I see of Slaton the more I see him as 1A and not 2.

If it comes down to either trading our second #1 to move up for Mcfadden or standing pat and taking Slaton, I 'd have a tough decision to make. The thing is both these guys look like two of the best I've seen in a long long time.

I think both of these guys will be able to go toe to toe with anybody in the league including guys like Bush and Tomlinson IMO. Thats what I want at QB & RB.

I'll say this, in my mind it is definately not Mcfadden or bust! I love him as player, but the reality is we might not get Mcfadden, but our chances of getting Mcfadden or Slaton are solid, and that has me excited, these guys are like trying to choose between Emmit and Barry.

 

[America's Team]

Keep in mind that we would still have julius and barber to deal out, so maybe we could give our Browns pick and either julius or barber for wherever Dmac ends up at, and then we still have or 32nd pick .

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

I'm completely sold on two in the draft thus far, McFadden and Jackson... I look at what they do against top competition.

 

[AsthmaField]

Keep in mind that we would still have julius and barber to deal out, so maybe we could give our Browns pick and either julius or barber for wherever Dmac ends up at, and then we still have or 32nd pick .

We won't have JJ. He's a free agent as soon as the 07 season is over.

 

[skinsscalper]

If we had to give up anything other than maybe another 3rdto get McFadden, I think I'd rather go lock down CB and adifferent RB (in a RB DEEEEP draft).

McFadden is a great player and will be a stud in the NFL, but I don't think he's worth two #1s when we have holes at CB and aging WR core.

SS

 

[5Stars]

(stay away, iceberg...stay away, my friend)!!


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[iceberg]

(stay away, iceberg...stay away, my friend)!!


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if we're gonna speculate, here's my thoughts on the matter.

emmitt is going to so on safari in the everglades (he's an odd one that emmett) and find the fountain of youth ponce de leon hid so long ago. he's gonna take teh last few swigs that exist in the world and be 21 again and we're going to hold him to the contract he signed to retire a cowboy and extended it for a record low money as emmett will actually make the bulk of his money as an orator.

so the rb position will be fixed w/o firing a single shot. then we're gonna talk tom brady into being a cowboy and bypass rules, regulations and salary implications cause hey - we're just speculating, right? this is easy man!

then we're going to trade our 2nd round pick to detroit for calvin johnson who was named rookie of the year but millon got caught with wildlife pics and we at least tried to make the blackmale look plausable. so WR problem should be fixed, rb problem fixed, qb problem fixed and mother of all treasures - we've not made a single pick yet!

on the cleveland pick, while it was 7th we got tricky and wrote darren long on the card and turned it in 1st so we got 2 players out of the 1st pick cause we then said that meant darren mcfadden and long, the OT prospect.

at this point it gets a bit silly but hey - i'm just speculating.

since we don't need mcfadden but were just compelled to pick him, we trade him for the 1st 6 picks in the draft and take the top 3 CBs in the draft and eduncan FINALLY gives jones some credit.

we then take 2 wr's, trade our 6th pick and trade down to pick up depth in later in the 1st round and we draft a center with our pick, which was 32.

in the 2nd round, we draft 3 FS and 2 FS cause we need top quality out there and should have #1's even as deep as #3 or we're just stupid and this is our golden opportunity to get 'er done!

 

[5Stars]

if we're gonna speculate, here's my thoughts on the matter.

emmitt is going to so on safari in the everglades (he's an odd one that emmett) and find the fountain of youth ponce de leon hid so long ago. he's gonna take teh last few swigs that exist in the world and be 21 again and we're going to hold him to the contract he signed to retire a cowboy and extended it for a record low money as emmett will actually make the bulk of his money as an orator.

so the rb position will be fixed w/o firing a single shot. then we're gonna talk tom brady into being a cowboy and bypass rules, regulations and salary implications cause hey - we're just speculating, right? this is easy man!

then we're going to trade our 2nd round pick to detroit for calvin johnson who was named rookie of the year but millon got caught with wildlife pics and we at least tried to make the blackmale look plausable. so WR problem should be fixed, rb problem fixed, qb problem fixed and mother of all treasures - we've not made a single pick yet!

on the cleveland pick, while it was 7th we got tricky and wrote darren long on the card and turned it in 1st so we got 2 players out of the 1st pick cause we then said that meant darren mcfadden and long, the OT prospect.

at this point it gets a bit silly but hey - i'm just speculating.

since we don't need mcfadden but were just compelled to pick him, we trade him for the 1st 6 picks in the draft and take the top 3 CBs in the draft and eduncan FINALLY gives jones some credit.

we then take 2 wr's, trade our 6th pick and trade down to pick up depth in later in the 1st round and we draft a center with our pick, which was 32.

in the 2nd round, we draft 3 FS and 2 FS cause we need top quality out there and should have #1's even as deep as #3 or we're just stupid and this is our golden opportunity to get 'er done!

Sounds good to me...except the bolded part!!

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[iceberg]

Sounds good to me...except the bolded part!!

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i'm just spec'in man!!!!

 

[GlitzCowboy]

If McFadden continues on the pace he set last season for himself, we sell the farm to get him. That's what Jerry will do. I have no doubt in my mind. Jerry and everybody else up top wants him, end of story. Some team will probably rob us blind knowing this too.

I don't want us to go past that draft in what we sacrafice. Other than that though I would be thrilled to finally bring a player of that known (rememeber he's still on pace after this season hypothetically) calibur to our team. It's been a long time in the coming since we've drafted one for offense.

 

[dallasfan]

I'd trade down and select Steve Slaton, then use the picks to get a WR and CB.

 

[Vintage]

If our staff thinks he is that special; then yes, Id do it.

But I'd rather "settle" for someone like Ray Rice and draft a CB in the latter part of round one.

 

[UVAwahoos]

I think it's way too early to do any speculating. Just look at how many spots Leinart and Quinn both dropped in the last two drafts based off projections. Then you end up with a sure franchise-saving game changer in Reggie Bush and Houston takes Mario freakin Williams ahead of him.

I mean, so much happens for even these "sure picks" that it's ridiculous to even try and figure out where McFadden will be. Another point...take away Adrian Peterson's broken collar bone (which really didn't change anything about him but his final year stats) and he's probably a top 2 pick. Who knows what will happen to McFadden between now and draft time.

Or, lets say he has a heismann winning, ridiculous year but then contracts the flu and runs like a 4.8 sec 40 at the combine. This will definitely turn off like 20 GMs since they're all so giddy over combine scores. So much can, and more than likely WILL, happen over these next few months that we're just gonna have to wait and see what happens.

I say we focus on getting that 32 pick in the meantime!