You can want Dak to keep the job and respect and appreciate the career of Tony Romo

[ConceptCoop]

Romo is never going to get the credit he deserves outside of Dallas Cowboys circles. The national audience will always remember the botched conversion and lack of playoff appearances, and conveniently forgot the incredible stats, the comebacks and clutch performances. As the QB of the media spectacle that is the Dallas Cowboys, he was never going to get a fair shake.

But that shouldn't be the case in Cowboys circles. We saw the incompetence that was (and is) Jerry Jones - and how it put so much pressure on our best players - Romo, Witten and Ware. (None of the 3 were drafted as one of Jerry's boys, BTW.) We should respect and appreciate these guys - especially Romo. The deck was always stacked against them as Jerry's ego continually handcuffed the team, but they won a lot of football games despite that.

All that to say this: You can want Dak to keep the job AND respect and appreciate the career of Tony Romo.

It's disgusting to see so much of the fanbase turn on Romo for the shiny new toy. I know most of the fanbase is appreciative, but there's a loud and growing minority that's adopting the national, ESPN, TMZ narative on Romo to justify their stance on the current QB situation. Can we stop with that?

 

[FLCowboyFan]

I just wish we could have given Romo the talent that he deserved so that he could have won a couple championships vs having to play over his head all of the time. Even this year we didn't give him a defense that could carry the team if something went wrong. We have been very lucky to get Dak who I hope if we don't win it this or next year will be given more cards to work with than Romo has.

 

[ConceptCoop]

I just wish we could have given Romo the talent that he deserved so that he could have won a couple championships vs having to play over his head all of the time. Even this year we didn't give him a defense that could carry the team if something went wrong. We have been very lucky to get Dak who I hope if we don't win it this or next year will be given more cards to work with than Romo has.

Amen. I loved seeing Ware get the ring that he deserved, and as long as it doens't come against us, I hope Tony and Witten get one too, if and when they move on.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

This talk of logic, this talk of it does not have to be either or, this talk of just because you are not with me it must mean you are against me...probably won't fly on a Bi-Polar board.
But I agree with your take, for what it is worth.

Frankly I am just happy that it appears we have someone that is there to take over when Romo is gone...whether that be now or later.

 

[aikemirv]

Romo is never going to get the credit he deserves outside of Dallas Cowboys circles. The national audience will always remember the botched conversion and lack of playoff appearances, and conveniently forgot the incredible stats, the comebacks and clutch performances. As the QB of the media spectacle that is the Dallas Cowboys, he was never going to get a fair shake.

But that shouldn't be the case in Cowboys circles. We saw the incompetence that was (and is) Jerry Jones - and how it put so much pressure on our best players - Romo, Witten and Ware. (None of the 3 were drafted as one of Jerry's boys, BTW.) We should respect and appreciate these guys - especially Romo. The deck was always stacked against them as Jerry's ego continually handcuffed the team, but they won a lot of football games despite that.

All that to say this: You can want Dak to keep the job AND respect and appreciate the career of Tony Romo.

It's disgusting to see so much of the fanbase turn on Romo for the shiny new toy. I know most of the fanbase is appreciative, but there's a loud and growing minority that's adopting the national, ESPN, TMZ narative on Romo to justify their stance on the current QB situation. Can we stop with that?

You can but this is the opportunity for those who really never believed in Romo to slam him again. They had to keep their mouth shut after the 2014 season proved them completely wrong but this is their opening again and they can't help themselves.

 

[DallasCowboys2080]

This talk of logic, this talk of it does not have to be either or, this talk of just because you are not with me it must mean you are against me...probably won't fly on a Bi-Polar board.
But I agree with your take, for what it is worth.

Frankly I am just happy that it appears we have someone that is there to take over when Romo is gone...whether that be now or later.

exactly. we finally have QB depth in Dallas. What a welcome change. Its media's job to generate and create controversy. Makes money.

Romo had a hand in finding this The Dakota Dude. Without Romo doing that we probably would never have struck gold.

 

[erod]

I want to Dak to sponge up mind vitamins from watching Romo from the sideline, then unleash a larger arsenal when his time comes.

 

[yimyammer]

I love and appreciate Romo but I love winning more and since there is a cap, tough decisions will have to be made very soon.

An issue I haven't heard mentioned is how important it is to take advantage of Dak's rookie contract so they can improve the defense and keep guys like Martin, Collins around and possibly grab a SB win in the process.

Being able to replace Romo with a young up and coming QB at 1/20th the cost makes this decision really tough in the off season (assuming Dak stays on his current trajectory and appears to be a solid franchise QB).

Unless Dak craters or has a big injury, I don't see how they can afford to keep Romo past 2017 and Dak may make it hard for them to keep Romo in 2017.

Dak is only costing the team $2,723,393 in total through the end of 2019

To keep Romo through the end of 2019 would cost the team approximately $94 million and I believe they would still have 3.2 million in dead money at the end of 2019.

That's a huge difference that's gonna require Romo to severely outplay Dak because they're going to have ask themselves how much better are they as a team for the different in cost that could be spent elsewhere to improve the team overall.

 

[WoodysGirl]

I've avoided most of these threads, on purpose. But it's amazing how no other "elite" starting QB over the years ever had a QB controversy just because the backup played well and I reiterate, Dak has played well. Dak has done his job and it's most assuredly appreciated. And I'm extremely hopeful about him in the future.

But I read something interesting on twitter that made all the sense in the world. The Cowboys coaches are actually COACHING Dak and the surrounding veterans are playing to their presumed level. Everything about the playcalls, the protections, everything is setup with Dak, in mind. With Romo, I don't know that they have as much of reign on the Cowboys O with Romo at the helm as they do with Dak. because he is the savvy vet.

Either way, I'm not ready to put Romo out to pasture yet. He has a little more life in his arm than noodle-arm Peyton, and if all is well with his back, then this offense won't skip a beat. My two nickels and you all can carry on.

 

[SDCowboy]

I'm probably one of the biggest Romo supporters around, but when it's time to move on, it's just time. It takes nothing away from what Tony has meant to the team for the last decade, but all good runs come to an end.

The Dak era is now and putting him back on the shelf when he's already shown so much just doesn't make sense. I just wish it could have happened a bit differently with Tony retiring first.

 

[Meat-O-Rama]

Romo is never going to get the credit he deserves outside of Dallas Cowboys circles. The national audience will always remember the botched conversion and lack of playoff appearances, and conveniently forgot the incredible stats, the comebacks and clutch performances. As the QB of the media spectacle that is the Dallas Cowboys, he was never going to get a fair shake.

But that shouldn't be the case in Cowboys circles. We saw the incompetence that was (and is) Jerry Jones - and how it put so much pressure on our best players - Romo, Witten and Ware. (None of the 3 were drafted as one of Jerry's boys, BTW.) We should respect and appreciate these guys - especially Romo. The deck was always stacked against them as Jerry's ego continually handcuffed the team, but they won a lot of football games despite that.

All that to say this: You can want Dak to keep the job AND respect and appreciate the career of Tony Romo.

It's disgusting to see so much of the fanbase turn on Romo for the shiny new toy. I know most of the fanbase is appreciative, but there's a loud and growing minority that's adopting the national, ESPN, TMZ narative on Romo to justify their stance on the current QB situation. Can we stop with that?

Agreed, I don't understand how you can be a fan of THE DALLAS COWBOYS and feel it's necessary to hate or insult one player if you are in favor of another.

I feel pretty strongly that a healthy Romo gives us a better chance for a deep playoff run, than a young Dak. But I can see why people feel like Dak is ready now and we should keep Romo on the sidelines unless/until absolutely needed. But I don't feel like I need to insult any other fans who don't feel that way. Nor do I feel the need to insult one player or the other to make my point. And lastly, I don't feel the need to speak in ABSOLUTES about opinions none of us has any way of proving.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Romo is better than Dak until he isn't. When Romo has been healthy, he has been one of the best QB in the entire league. Until he isn't, Romo is the starter and only a fool would do otherwise. The guy knows more about the league and league defenses that Dak will know in 5 years.

 

[ConceptCoop]

The Dak era is now and putting him back on the shelf when he's already shown so much just doesn't make sense.

I'm torn, but can appreciate this stance. The staff and team know much, much better than any of us how big the gap between the two players is. We're clearly running a safer, less aggresive version of the offense for Dak. That's been enough to beat two bad teams and go 1-1 against two average teams, and I'm happy about that. But I question how well we'll keep up with better teams in the league. If they think Romo is the better player today, they need to go with Romo. If they don't, they need to stick with Dak. I think I have to trust their call as I don't have the same insight and information.

 

[lostar2009]

It's not the end of the world if Romo is no longer the starter. If JJ decides to cut Romo he can still play elsewhere just not with the Cowboys. Im sorry Romo had his chance and JJ did everything he could to make it happen. I only recall 2 or 3 seasons where I thought this team had zero hope at a playoff run. If Romo was serious about this game early on he could of had his rings.

 

[ConceptCoop]

It's not the end of the world if Romo is no longer the starter. If JJ decides to cut Romo he can still play elsewhere just not with the Cowboys. Im sorry Romo had his chance and JJ did everything he could to make it happen. I only recall 2 or 3 seasons where I thought this team had zero hope at a playoff run. If Romo was serious about this game early on he could of had his rings.

What years do you blame Romo for not winning a ring and what did JJ do to give him those chances?

 

[Rogerthat12]

Romo is never going to get the credit he deserves outside of Dallas Cowboys circles. The national audience will always remember the botched conversion and lack of playoff appearances, and conveniently forgot the incredible stats, the comebacks and clutch performances. As the QB of the media spectacle that is the Dallas Cowboys, he was never going to get a fair shake.

But that shouldn't be the case in Cowboys circles. We saw the incompetence that was (and is) Jerry Jones - and how it put so much pressure on our best players - Romo, Witten and Ware. (None of the 3 were drafted as one of Jerry's boys, BTW.) We should respect and appreciate these guys - especially Romo. The deck was always stacked against them as Jerry's ego continually handcuffed the team, but they won a lot of football games despite that.

All that to say this: You can want Dak to keep the job AND respect and appreciate the career of Tony Romo.

It's disgusting to see so much of the fanbase turn on Romo for the shiny new toy. I know most of the fanbase is appreciative, but there's a loud and growing minority that's adopting the national, ESPN, TMZ narative on Romo to justify their stance on the current QB situation. Can we stop with that?

Yes, the either/or informal logical fallacy of the false dilemma is alive and well especially on this and most forums as BP points out.

I can not tell you how many exchanges I have been engaged in on this board with either this fallacy being violated or the typical Argumentum Ad Hominem Abusive fallacy (attacking the man not the cogency of the argument) being committed constantly.

Some base level education in logical informal fallacies would eliminate most of the bad threads and personal attacks but not the fun of talking about our Cowboys!

 

[ElGatoGrande]

Romo is never going to get the credit he deserves outside of Dallas Cowboys circles. The national audience will always remember the botched conversion and lack of playoff appearances, and conveniently forgot the incredible stats, the comebacks and clutch performances. As the QB of the media spectacle that is the Dallas Cowboys, he was never going to get a fair shake.

But that shouldn't be the case in Cowboys circles. We saw the incompetence that was (and is) Jerry Jones - and how it put so much pressure on our best players - Romo, Witten and Ware. (None of the 3 were drafted as one of Jerry's boys, BTW.) We should respect and appreciate these guys - especially Romo. The deck was always stacked against them as Jerry's ego continually handcuffed the team, but they won a lot of football games despite that.

All that to say this: You can want Dak to keep the job AND respect and appreciate the career of Tony Romo.

It's disgusting to see so much of the fanbase turn on Romo for the shiny new toy. I know most of the fanbase is appreciative, but there's a loud and growing minority that's adopting the national, ESPN, TMZ narative on Romo to justify their stance on the current QB situation. Can we stop with that?

Cowboy nation is wide and diverse. Without doubt there will be memory loss, disrespect, ingratitude and axe-grinding on display in the coming months,,, just like there has always been!

 

[Trouty]

Romo is never going to get the credit he deserves outside of Dallas Cowboys circles. The national audience will always remember the botched conversion and lack of playoff appearances, and conveniently forgot the incredible stats, the comebacks and clutch performances. As the QB of the media spectacle that is the Dallas Cowboys, he was never going to get a fair shake.

But that shouldn't be the case in Cowboys circles. We saw the incompetence that was (and is) Jerry Jones - and how it put so much pressure on our best players - Romo, Witten and Ware. (None of the 3 were drafted as one of Jerry's boys, BTW.) We should respect and appreciate these guys - especially Romo. The deck was always stacked against them as Jerry's ego continually handcuffed the team, but they won a lot of football games despite that.

All that to say this: You can want Dak to keep the job AND respect and appreciate the career of Tony Romo.

It's disgusting to see so much of the fanbase turn on Romo for the shiny new toy. I know most of the fanbase is appreciative, but there's a loud and growing minority that's adopting the national, ESPN, TMZ narative on Romo to justify their stance on the current QB situation. Can we stop with that?

Romo gets incredible respect outside of Dallas circles. Moreso than in Dallas circles.

Great post, Coop. I agree with the essence of your post but I think Romo should be given one last chance. <ducks>

 

[fifaguy]

It's not the end of the world if Romo is no longer the starter. If JJ decides to cut Romo he can still play elsewhere just not with the Cowboys. Im sorry Romo had his chance and JJ did everything he could to make it happen. I only recall 2 or 3 seasons where I thought this team had zero hope at a playoff run. If Romo was serious about this game early on he could of had his rings.

It would not be the end of the world if Romo got his ring at Dallas while sitting on the bench. I'm not saying that this is likely, but I do think that it's about the team and not about Romo specifically.

 

[Broges74]

Love Romo but the cap hit is crazy when we could use those resources on defense and compete next year for another title. I say give him his last shot and try to move him in the offseason.