You can't have your cake and eat it too: The reason our offense isn't explosive.

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Tony Romo was ridiculed the entire offseason, and early on this season for turning the ball over too much. Many believed Romo's turnovers were holding the team back from success.

Now after losing our past two games when Romo passes for nearly 650 yards, 5TD's and 0 INT's it begs the question. Was that really the problem?

There's no debating that turning the ball over is a recipe to get you beat. We all know that. However the Dallas Cowboys have turned the ball over once in the past three games, yet besides stat-padding against NY and SD while the defense was in prevent mode, Romo and the offense has recently had trouble getting in gear and putting points on the board, and have failed to land very many big plays.

Many point to Jason Garrett, and that's fine. You all know my view on that...in short, I dont agree.

But how about we look a little deeper. We wanted Romo to cut down on his turnovers. He has done that. But how many times in this past game did Phillip Rivers throw the ball up in single coverage trusting his receivers to come down with it? Quite a bit.

How many times has Romo done that this season? Not many.

We're getting exactly what we all wished for with Romo being careful with the ball. He's not taking very many risks down the field because in my opinion he's scared to throw INT's instead of having confidence in his receiver to come down with the ball.

Will he throw some INT's by throwing the ball up more? Sure he will. But we would also get more big plays down the field, and potential PI calls that could change the course of a game.

I was in the minority (as usual) in the first NY game when he threw the pick to Phillips. He simply did not see Phillips, and threw the ball up for grabs. I liked the decision though, he simply did not see Philips. However it was intercepted and that was one of the last times we saw a real deep bomb from Romo that I can remember. There was one in KC where Miles climbed a ladder to get it, and THOSE are the plays I'm talking about.

He said he would take better care of the football and make better decisions. Well he has, and many are getting exactly what they wish for. We're steady on offense, but our big plays (I'm not talking 20-yard passes) have steadily declined.

I'm not suggesting that he force balls into double coverage, but if there's one on one opportunities down the field, I'd like to see him throw it up there and give his receivers a chance a bit more often.

While we have moved the ball very well outside of the red-zone, there is just something about a deep ball that picks a team up. There is not a doubt in my mind that had we gotten a few big plays in the air in any of our losses that we would have come out victorious. Those plays can change games.

It does come with risk however, as you're bound to throw some interceptions, and while I am indeed pleased that Romo has cut down on his turnovers like he promised, perhaps we can't have our cake and eat it too.
 

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You want him to take more risks with Roy at the receiving end of the play? thanks, but no thanks.
Rivers can throw these balls because his receivers are tall, really tall. And our CBs just aren't. He can put the balls in a position where there are hard to catch but where really isn't much risk of an INT. We can't do that with a route runner like Roy or it rains picks. And Miles just doesn't seem like the guy who can win this fight for the ball on the sideline like Jackson does. No offense, his strength is his speed and we need to use this.
 

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SilberBlau;3143259 said:
You want him to take more risks with Roy at the receiving end of the play? thanks, but no thanks.
Rivers can throw these balls because his receivers are tall, really tall. And our CBs just aren't. He can put the balls in a position where there are hard to catch but where really isn't much risk of an INT. We can't do that with a route runner like Roy or it rains picks. And Miles just doesn't seem like the guy who can win this fight for the ball on the sideline like Jackson does. No offense, his strength is his speed and we need to use this.

I want him to trust his receivers in one-on-one scenarios and let his receivers make a play instead.

Simple as that.
 

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Our OL is the problem and as a results we're not throwing the ball more than 15 yards at time.
 

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There's a difference between Romo throwing aimlessly into double and triple coverage as he did too many times last year and Romo throwing an all-or-nothing deep shot down the field against single coverage, which is what Rivers did repeatedly against us yesterday.

It seems we've gone almost the entire season without even attempting to throw the ball beyond the last line of the defense. The last I can remember was the duck threw to Kenny Phillips in Week 2.

Now I'm sure someone will point to our offensive rankings and Romo's gaudy stats as proof that our offense is fine. On paper, it's fine. On the field, opposing defenses are really crowding the short/intermediate zones making it tougher on our running game and our passing game.

Just look at yesterday, the deep shots SD took early yesterday completely took away the aggresiveness of our DBs.
 

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the reason our O sucks is our O line that once again wore down as the season went on, that seems to be the common theme in all these collapses, they start out great get showered with praise but by the time December rolls around are back to playing awful again.

In a way it kinda is Romo's fault if he wasn't so good at avoiding pressure this area of our team would have had to be addressed years ago, he makes them look a lot better then they actually are. Imagine what he could do behind a group that didn't kill every other drive with penalties and could actually protect him
 

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NextGenBoys;3143261 said:
I want him to trust his receivers in one-on-one scenarios and let his receivers make a play instead.

Simple as that.

We dont have those type of recievers that will just go get a ball.

As for Romo, his December QB rating is 119 and the team is 0-2. The problem is not the QB being to careful, the problem is our defense and special teams freaking blow.

Upgrade the defense and upgrade the special teams and a QB rating of 119 will win you a hell of a lot of games.
 

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I agree with the OP that Romo being careful has cost the team a few points. However I also think that it has saved the team a lot of points from being put on them.

I honestly think that the "slinger" Romo would have lost the Washington game this year. He was damn near putrid for nearly the entire game and if it weren't for a Run heavy plan, he would have put the ball up more and more and would have turned it over.

He was lucky on a number of those and was off on even more.

Right now he is playing great. 4 picks in the last 11 weeks is an amazing improvement from where he was in previous years. And he is doing it without a lot of OL help. He's been sacked a career high so far.

Although, some of that is attributed to the constant pressure he faces. I could have sworn I hear somewhere he was the most blitzed QB in the league. If true, I really applaud what he has done this year. Also if true, it irks me even more that play action is not a bigger part of the game plans.

I think Dallas has overall benefitted from the change Romo has made. I don't see his numbers being a hinderance to the team.
 

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Its a shame. Romo has stepped his game up, and at the right time. The problem is that none of the other guys are being inspired by this to step their games up as well. Instead they are mailing it in. Romo cannot get out on defense and cover 3rd & 10+ for Newman's often burnt, sorry ***, likewise he can't get out there and kick the field goals for Folk who suddenly can't hit the ground with his hat. Romo also cannot block for himself on the goal line, or get a push of a few inches so that Barber breaks the plane.

If this team had 52 other Tony Romos we would be in great shape. This team needs rebuilding with Tony Romo as the foundation. Its not too late in his career to do this.
 

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This team doesn't need rebuilding...that's ridiculous. What it does need is exactly what Hoofbite said - a game plan built around our supposed "power" running game that includes play action. Remember the TD pass to Austin? BEAUTIFUL. Why don't we see anything like that anywhere other than the goal line? Ran a similar play last week that resulted in a TD to Williams.

You mean to tell me we couldn't run a play action bomb to Austin against the Giants' putrid secondary? Oh wait - we don't run the ball from under center, only stupid draw plays designed to give the offensive line more time to develop a hole for Marion Barber.
 

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casmith07;3143452 said:
This team doesn't need rebuilding...that's ridiculous. What it does need is exactly what Hoofbite said - a game plan built around our supposed "power" running game that includes play action. Remember the TD pass to Austin? BEAUTIFUL. Why don't we see anything like that anywhere other than the goal line? Ran a similar play last week that resulted in a TD to Williams.

You mean to tell me we couldn't run a play action bomb to Austin against the Giants' putrid secondary? Oh wait - we don't run the ball from under center, only stupid draw plays designed to give the offensive line more time to develop a hole for Marion Barber.

No, it most definitely needs rebuilding, and its ridiculous to state otherwise after all that we have seen from it the last couple of years. This collection isn't going to ever get it done. The team has to move in a new direction, rebuilt with players more like Tony Romo, and less like Flozell Adams. its not too late for that.
 

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The only thing that needs rebuilding is our O-Line. Lets face it. What we thought our strength was is a huge weakness on this team.
 

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RoadRunner;3143465 said:
No, it most definitely needs rebuilding, and its ridiculous to state otherwise after all that we have seen from it the last couple of years. This collection isn't going to ever get it done. The team has to move in a new direction, rebuilt with players more like Tony Romo, and less like Flozell Adams. its not too late for that.

3 of the 5 on the o line needs to go, Marion Barber, a few players on D and a new coaching staff. All in all maybe 7 players which isn't exactly rebuilding when a single offseason with a good draft and FA could go a long way to addressing it. I swear if we draft another LB in the first round this offseason my post loss hissyfits will be dwarfed by what i'll have
 

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Real1st;3143468 said:
The only thing that needs rebuilding is our O-Line. Lets face it. What we thought our strength was is a huge weakness on this team.

And the middle of the defense, excepting Rat of course.
 

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Jerry needs to find a way to put Eric Berry or Joe Haden in a cowboys uniform next year. then draft some linemen who didnt go to the Flozell Adams' School of False Starts and Personal Fouls.

somebody has to be telling Wade to change up his defensive scheme. on that last drive where san diego controlled 6 minutes of the clock, they lined up in that same base 3-4. with the 2 outside linebackers acting as ends, blitzed both inside linebackers, and Tomlinson or Sproles ran right past them every play. Smarten up Wade, 4 down lineman, 4 backers at the 2nd level for support.
 

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Hoofbite;3143424 said:
I agree with the OP that Romo being careful has cost the team a few points. However I also think that it has saved the team a lot of points from being put on them.

I honestly think that the "slinger" Romo would have lost the Washington game this year. He was damn near putrid for nearly the entire game and if it weren't for a Run heavy plan, he would have put the ball up more and more and would have turned it over.

He was lucky on a number of those and was off on even more.

Right now he is playing great. 4 picks in the last 11 weeks is an amazing improvement from where he was in previous years. And he is doing it without a lot of OL help. He's been sacked a career high so far.

Although, some of that is attributed to the constant pressure he faces. I could have sworn I hear somewhere he was the most blitzed QB in the league. If true, I really applaud what he has done this year. Also if true, it irks me even more that play action is not a bigger part of the game plans.

I think Dallas has overall benefitted from the change Romo has made. I don't see his numbers being a hinderance to the team.

What kills me is the fact that every single team seems to make us pay when they blitz. Not only pay but pay BIG. We hardly EVER do that, and it has nothing to do with Tony Romo. A crap o-line and horrible preparation for those situations is the problem.

I remember when Parcells was coaching Romo up he said "One of these days your going to love to see that blitz". The reason hewas going to love it was because Parcells preparation and Romo's maturation would make teams pay dearly. Well, Romo's maturation is doing it's part. Unfortunately Garrett has no idea how to make the rest of the league pay like the Cowboys do.
 

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The fact that we are the most blitzed team in the league that should say something about our offensive line. Teams are trying to attack our weakness.
 

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They are in one-on-one scenarios, because Norv Turner runs play-action effectively, and has an nice short passing attack which keeps defenders second-guessing... All team do against us is play cover-2 and double the recevers... You wan't one-on one situations, run play-action...Play action doesn't exist in Garrett's playbook...
 

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We don't have a playmaker at receiver. Austin would be a fine #2 or #3. He just isn't good enough to be a #1 and neither is Roy Williams. Roy is slow as molasses. We should have kept the draft pick and drafted some guy like Nicks. Another bone headed move by Jerry. The real question is how long Jerry's pride will make him continue to pay Roy and keep him on this team.
 
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