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Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by TwoDeep3, Aug 2, 2020.

  1. CowboyFrog

    CowboyFrog Active Member

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    I don't see a scenario that we draft Lawrence either, and the cost would be so much he is now a rookie on a hollow shell of a team.....so your in rebuilding mode...if you go back to the start of the salary cap you will see that QB's on rookie contracts winning the superbowl is usually tied to a really good defense. All but one of those QB's didn't cost the team a lot of draft capitol (Wentz being the outlier if you count him as a SB wining QB). Your better, sooner odds say use a real bus driver (Dalton) and beef that D up through FA and roll with that. Beef the D way up through FA is the thing I can't see our GM doing.
     
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  2. aikemirv

    aikemirv Well-Known Member

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    Since we are playing make believe then I go back and use the non-exclusive franchsie tag and see what happens. Without that option there are really no good ways to replace Dak.

    That means someone has to be willing to give up 2 1st rounders for him which I highly doubt anyway but that would have been my step 1 to replacing Dak.
     
  3. JJHLH1

    JJHLH1 Well-Known Member

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    Dak is a perfect example of that.
     
  4. CowboyFrog

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    I would not have been opposed to this tag either as long as the FO had a plan because he would have received offers, the good side of that there would be no argument on what his contract should be....
     
  5. Typhus

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    Im done with trying to explain to the blind.
    What I find more interesting is the amount of recognizable posters that were Dak defenders, now realizing that success without Dak is the rational move.
    Tag Dak with the Non-Exclusive, and let the league set his value and take the picks when a fish bites.
     
  6. fivetwos

    fivetwos Well-Known Member

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    Certainly true, as well as there being "cant miss" dudes that have missed.

    But he is worth the risk and probably the cost. Andrew Luck took an awful Colts team to the playoffs basically by himself.

    Itll be real interesting to see who ends up with him. Someone who was so/so who loses their QB early on is probably the winner. Indy somehow is a strong candidate again. Washington, Detroit.
     
  7. Dallasfann

    Dallasfann Well-Known Member

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    The Tennessee Titans just went to the AFC Championship game with 32 year old Ryan Tannehill as QB in his first year on the team. I think we could find a way to replace 40 million a year Dak Prescott and be just fine. If you are going to reply to me with, yea well how? Ok..get the best available free agent QB on the market. There replaced.
     
  8. JJHLH1

    JJHLH1 Well-Known Member

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    The Cowboys will have to pay Dak nearly $38 million next year, even if they use the Non-Exclusive tag.

    I don’t see any team willing to give away draft picks knowing that Dak will be a free agent soon.
     
  9. Hennessy_King

    Hennessy_King Well-Known Member

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    You stated his 2019 stats was due to most of his "success" in garbage time. I just showed you that it wasn't. The fact you are too dense to even realize what you are looking at just shows you have ulterior motives.
     
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  10. glimmerman

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    They will sign him. JJ will drop the idea of the 5th year and he will sign. It’s just how much. If he helps them to the championship game or wins a SB then he will demand mahomes money and likely get it.
     
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  11. gjkoeppen

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    Lets take a look at what you say can't be answered. You're right nobody can right now say what spot the Cowboys will be picking from or any other team but here's what plan can be stated now. Even if the Cowboys only have to move up a few places to get one of the highly touted QB's in the draft, we all know that a trade like that will still take their 1st round pick and probably their 2nd or 3rd round pick too. That means any chance of getting starting help on defense is drastically less without those picks. Now you also implied maybe a 2nd round pick on a QB and is that really going to be better than where Prescott is now? Even though it doesn't happen all the time, there have been QB's drafted, one as high as the 1st pick in the draft, that turned out to be busts. Now if the Cowboys draft a QB and he turns out to be a bust, how many years does that set back the Super Bowl quest?

    Next those that say just go with Dalton for the 2021 season after drafting a QB but they forget that Dalton has already been fired in favor of a QB with zero NFL snaps. Now Burrows is on a rookie contract and keeping Dalton wouldn't have been a cap crusher but the bengals decided that a QB with zero NFL snaps was better. Now does it show a lack of confidence for a QB to sign a 1 year contract as a backup for a measly 3 mil or does it mean that he actually realizes that he's no longer a quality starting QB in this league? It really doesn't matter which it is because since Prescott hasn't missed a game due to injury so far, the chances that Dalton sees any action this season is very slim. So after no or maybe just a small handful in garbage time snaps this season, the Cowboys are going to say ya lets make him the starter until this drafted QB is ready to start. Now if that dream comes true do you think Dalton's agent is going to accept another 3 mil a year contract or will the contract demand be closer to at least the middle of the pack of starting QB's? That will be cheaper than Prescott on the tag again but Dalton isn't anywhere close to being as good either. So now without that cheap 3 mil contract but a contract worth at least 5 times more and a probable lower cap and at least 2 of the Cowboys top picks gone making that trade up for a QB, to get rookie contract starting help on defense and a reduced cap space to go out and sign some quality defensive help, the Cowboys have just taken steps backward on getting to the Super Bowl.
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  12. glimmerman

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    I never understood garbage time stats. There isn’t to many losses that we were being blown out. So does someone want a QB that doesn’t try to win. O well we are down by 7-10 points and still have 7-10 minutes left in the game, I guess we will just give up.
     
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  13. Hennessy_King

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    I am in this group. Unfortunately the $$ is going to be too crazy moving forward after 2021. Maybe he plays 2021 on the tag but that's it. The front office botched the entire thing now we have to go qb hunting to find a top 10 qb. Meanwhile we will be saving cap space for what? Our FO has constantly missed on free agent signings over the last few years. So back to the draft where we have whiffed player after player on defense. I just dont see the long term gameplan from this FO. You don't win super bowls by having more cap space.
     
  14. landryscorner

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    Why don't you ask yourself (OP) "what has Dak done for the cowboys?" SQUAT wait I take that back he has "created division among the fanbase" gotta thank him for that.
     
  15. Hennessy_King

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    They think 1 score games in the 4th quarter is garbage time lol. Does it really surprise you from that group tho? lol
     
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  16. Hennessy_King

    Hennessy_King Well-Known Member

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    I would say the same about you on this board, looking at your message to like ratio.
     
  17. CowboyFrog

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    Depends on what free agents are available and what the cost would be, if your going to get a journeyman cheap... I mean you already have Dalton....why not get what you can for Dak get the D up to top level and see how it goes... Again I think Dak can win and QB's are payed ridiculous in every market not just Dallas...Just remember the grass isn't always greener and we have seen QB's much worse come through town...
     
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  18. cern

    cern Well-Known Member

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    dak wants to remain a cowboy.
    the front office wants very much to sign dak.
    dak now understands stephen will not back down and there will be a line drawn in the sand (or another pie chart).
    stephen will get it done. it won't be cheap, but the new deal will allow the cowboys to manage the cap and give them some flexibility restructuring his deal should it be necessary. i am not worried.
     
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  19. Typhus

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    I know where you stand HK, and totally understand finding a franchise QB can take decades, all Dallas fans have been fortunate historically.
    This game has changed, the entire equation has been changed.
    Everyone is setting the standard on Mahomes, thats what you have to have at QB in order to win a SB.
    Having a Mahomes definitely helps tremendously,, who wouldnt want one of those ... lol
    Man is a game changer a winner...
    If you cant have a QB that can change a game, you can have others that equate the same success.
    Ive seen it happen too many times, people buy into a profile because it is most recent, everyone hung up on Dak vs non Dak BS, there is 10 ways to skin a cat.
    Throwing big franchise cap killing money in the wrong place, despite the position will cost this franchise, any franchise.
     
  20. Super_Kazuya

    Super_Kazuya Well-Known Member

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    You posted an obscure stat that you don’t even understand yourself pertaining to distances of 7 yards or more and you somehow think it has even the slightest amount of relevance to anything I said. It must be weird inhabiting whatever drug-powered fantasy world you are currently in, but unfortunately I am out here in the real world. You continue to embarrass yourself time after time and ban after ban.
     

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