Zeke still fast

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  1. Ranched

    Ranched "We Are Penn State"

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    :lmao2: Thought the title read: Zeke still fat
     
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  2. SteveTheCowboy

    SteveTheCowboy Well-Known Member

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    LOL...people's perception....is a funny and odd thing.

    I happen to think no one said that ever. Not in the same sentence. You put two different things together as if "people" (people? like how many?)...say it all the time.

    No...it isn't true at all. People disappointed with Tony's two yards are ALSO disappointed in Zeke's.

    If you want to be specific....getting two yards on 3rd and two....*could* be a completely different story. Those yards are a LOT harder to get and I bet Zeke does get more 3rd down conversions on a short run play. I bet people ARE more confident zeke gets it, for good reason. Either way people are happy when BOTH get those two yards.
     
  3. SteveTheCowboy

    SteveTheCowboy Well-Known Member

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    Someone already used the joke...sorry.

    Ah...the good ol' fat zeke thing...never gets old huh? :cool:
     
  4. CalPolyTechnique

    CalPolyTechnique Well-Known Member

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    “I happen to think…”

    Awesome.

    Here’s what we know:

    Zeke…1,650 career rushes and just five (5) runs of 40+ yards. Three (3) of those came his rookie season in 2016.

    Pollard…317 career rushes and four (4) runs of 40+ yards
     
  5. Typhus

    Typhus Captain Catfish

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    It was a comedy of errors, like running into a dirt wall.
    I want to see what Zeke and Pollard can both do on the left side just for starters.
    I want to be able to love picking up 3rd and shorts with confidence once again.
     
  6. jnday

    jnday Well-Known Member

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    Running 22mph is apparently not fast enough for Zeke to make successful runs to the outside. He hasn’t been able to make those runs to the outside since his 3rd year in the league.
     
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  7. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    He may have good straight away speed but he’s not quick and shifty. Tony Pollard can make defenders miss Zeke can’t. Zeke isn’t good on outside runs because he’s not able to bounce quickly to the outside and turn the corner.
     
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  8. G2

    G2 Taco Engineer

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    2016 & 2018 Zeke was dynamic. He's trailed off since.
    This is why you don't invest an early 1st on a position that has become the shortest in the NFL.

    The days of Emmitt Smith type RBs banging out 10+ seasons well over 1,000 yards and was a TD machine are over.
     
  9. JoeKing

    JoeKing Diehard

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    You think how Zeke started the season matters. Okay. That's where we have a difference of opinion. It's how you finish that matters.
     
  10. john van brocklin

    john van brocklin Captain Comeback

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    Running backs don't usually age gracefully
     
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  11. john van brocklin

    john van brocklin Captain Comeback

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    Exactly
     
  12. blueblood70

    blueblood70 Well-Known Member

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    cant control injuries having the correct non hater perspective is what matters..

    the team finished poorly that the only fact here

    Pinning it on a few unpopular players due to their contracts is a terrible narrative shared by clueless fans..

    Zeke played hard al year and sorry he couldn't finish with back injury and torn PCl the way you expected..lmao

    he showed his toughness, team play, and had respectable season given the facts.
     
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  13. MyFairLady

    MyFairLady Well-Known Member

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    Zeke used to be god tier. Now he is a blob.
     
  14. JoeKing

    JoeKing Diehard

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    I didn't say Zeke's failure last year was malicious... It's a violent sport, Injury happens. His body broke down, it's just the fact.
     
  15. blueblood70

    blueblood70 Well-Known Member

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    no he was inured Not broke down..high school players get the same injuries,,,gymnasts other sports etc etc no mater the age period end of story.,
     
  16. JoeKing

    JoeKing Diehard

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    Look man, whatever. All I'm saying is what happened to Zeke last season wasn't his fault. He tried hard but he wasn't at his best due to injury.
     
  17. blueblood70

    blueblood70 Well-Known Member

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    thats the issue DUDE

    its all you are saying, its jab on zeke because yet again over his contract,


    if MM says he looks fast and healthy like they did last year, and he proved it was true this threads true where everyone's questioning it. he literally was everything that was being reported, faster, quicker, and looked good up until mid season injuries..he was averaging 5.1 YPC can that not be any clearer the OP stated this many are questioning it but last season shows he the reports were true..no reason to think otherwise.
     
  18. SteveTheCowboy

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    Well of COURSE "I happen to think"...what the heck do you think this forum is all about? Heaving stats at each other?...and PRETENDING we don't hash 'em out like how we want?

    You have the nerve to mock me for "I happen to think" qualifier...and completely ignored backing up your claim "people say...". Humm...that's rich!

    Speaking of heaving stats....what you did here...you threw out some stats..and expect an assessment of them...without any regard for context. Stats are meaningless without context, let alone "I happen to think this..." about them. What do they mean? They mean "I happen to think". People make gobs of money doing that very thing on radio, tv and print. So ....your ridicule means ZERO...less than zero.

    Does your precious stat take into consideration the plays called?, the roles expected? the defenses played? Score? Time of game? Does it consider the amount of times zeke has saved Dak's but(t) by throwing his body on a big linebacker or even offensive lineman?

    No...you just throw out a stat and expect people to say...well by gosh that settles it then... s. can zeke and start Tony.

    #2's are EXPECTED to have big splash plays...often called "change of pace" for that very reason. Our #2's have ALWAYS had obscene stats..it's how it works. Until they assume a #1 role and flake out.

    I am not saying Zeke is the every best RB and will get 150 yards a game. Especially the way idiot Kellen Moore schemes it. I am also not saying Tony cannot assume a #1 role. He's never done it before, (NCAA or NFL)...so can we know either way? I just advise caution about it it instead of smug reckless assumptions because you hate Zeke.
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    You prepared to risk injury to a seemingly not so rugged tony pollard?
    You prepared to risk injury to Dak on a missed block...or many?

    I happen to think both Tony AND Zeke could make a formidable duo. Our silly musicall chairs o-line and idiot Kellen Moore have prevented their effective results. Along with some nagging injuries to both of course.
     
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  19. CalPolyTechnique

    CalPolyTechnique Well-Known Member

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    Y’all apologists can chew on the facts.

     
  20. TheCritic

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    I've been one of the harshest critics of Zeke, especially that hideous signing. But if I'm being honest, if you go back to 2016, just look at the size of the holes he had! I think there are a lot of backs that could have had the kind of productivity he had.

    So what I'm saying now is that if the rookie Smith can be the road grader and the center improves, there's a chance that Zeke gets that extra half second to get to the 2nd level and produces more big plays. And no I'm not arguing for extending Zeke beyond this season.

    Instead I'm making the case to run him into the ground like they did with Demarco Murray back in 2014, then cut his ***!!
     

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