Zeke vs. Saquon Comparison

[mkindred]

Zeke can consistently produce about 100 yards on the ground, even when the offense isn't being centered around him.

Barkley is purely feast or famine - his reception gains are a direct result of a horrendous giants OLine which leaves the only viable receiving option as screen passes. For instance, Barkley did have 14 receptions against the Cowboys for a total of 80 yards.. how many receptions/yards did arguably the best WR in the game get in that game (OBJ)?

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

Both pretty good

 

[Irvin88_4life]

I'd like to compare our franchise RB with the Giants franchise RB.
We have a very small sample size so far with Saquon in the NFL, but what we can do is compare the two and what they did in college facing similar competition.

Zeke:
Att: 592, Yards: 3,961, Avg: 6.7, TD's: 43
Rec: 58, Yards: 449, Avg: 7.7, TD's: 1

Saquon
Att: 671, Yards: 3,843, Avg: 5.7, TD's: 43
Rec: 102, Yards: 1,195, Avg: 11.7, TD's: 8


Saquon has been called a generational talent, and Zeke wasn't considered in the same class of Saquon, but clearly you can see Zeke has better rushing stats and 1 yard more per carry for their entire careers.

Bottomline I think is what we know, Zeke is the better rusher, Saquon is the better receiver.

What do you guys think?

I don't think Barkley is a better receiver either. Eli targets him much more then we do with Zeke. When the ball is thrown to Zeke good things happen. Zeke is by far the better back

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Zeke can consistently produce about 100 yards on the ground, even when the offense isn't being centered around him.

Barkley is purely feast or famine - his reception gains are a direct result of a horrendous giants OLine which leaves the only viable receiving option as screen passes. For instance, Barkley did have 14 receptions against the Cowboys for a total of 80 yards.. how many receptions/yards did arguably the best WR in the game get in that game (OBJ)?

So one game sets the rule?

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I don't think Barkley is a better receiver either. Eli targets him much more then we do with Zeke. When the ball is thrown to Zeke good things happen. Zeke is by far the better back

Lol, of course you don’t.

Because every player on the Cowboys is the best player at their position in the NFL, right?

 

[bandfan]

I'd like to compare our franchise RB with the Giants franchise RB.
We have a very small sample size so far with Saquon in the NFL, but what we can do is compare the two and what they did in college facing similar competition.

Zeke:
Att: 592, Yards: 3,961, Avg: 6.7, TD's: 43
Rec: 58, Yards: 449, Avg: 7.7, TD's: 1

Saquon
Att: 671, Yards: 3,843, Avg: 5.7, TD's: 43
Rec: 102, Yards: 1,195, Avg: 11.7, TD's: 8


Saquon has been called a generational talent, and Zeke wasn't considered in the same class of Saquon, but clearly you can see Zeke has better rushing stats and 1 yard more per carry for their entire careers.

Bottomline I think is what we know, Zeke is the better rusher, Saquon is the better receiver.

What do you guys think?

This doesn't say Saquon is a better receiver. It says he got more targets....

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

This doesn't say Saquon is a better receiver. It says he got more targets....

Okay, those numbers don’t say Zeke is the better back. It says he was used less and was fresher.

That was fun.

 

[This is Our Year]

Living in NY it’s been pretty incredible the year Barkley is having. It’s boarderline comical on most plays he has to make 2 or 3 guys miss in the backfield just to gain positive yards on his rushing plays.

With that said, give me Zeke. That’s our boy. There’s no “wrong” pick though with these two.

 

[JayFord]

Barkley is on a team that doesn’t have a pot to pee in a window to throw it out of and neighbors to complain about the smell

He’s literally the giants offense

 

[DogFace]

Zeke started as a receiver at Ohio St. He can catch. He just needs the ball thrown to him.

 

[Silver N Blue]

Why is this relevant it's not like the boys were in position to choose one over the other and ughhh yeah Zeke plays for the boys...dugh..

 

[robjay04]

I honestly don’t remember it that way.

I remember people saying that Zeke wasn’t quite on Gurley’s level and that Fournette was a better talent.

I remember the report on Zeke as being an incredibly great football player with no holes in his game, but not a generational talent.

Look at draft profiles from 2016. I remember Zeke was considered one of the most balanced backs to come out on years. Leading up to the draft, I remember reading comparasions to Ladanian Tomlinson and him doing exactly what LaVeon Bell was doing at the time.

It just depends on who you ask I guess. I did a little google searching. Found an article saying Barkley wasn’t as good as Zeke/Fournette. Found an article from an Eagles site saying Zeke is better than Gurley(pre-draft of course).

I know there are plenty of Barkley generational articles as well. If anything, I think Gurley more like Sanders...flashy plays and Zeke is more like Emmitt, not as flashy but does more for his team to win.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I'd like to compare our franchise RB with the Giants franchise RB.
We have a very small sample size so far with Saquon in the NFL, but what we can do is compare the two and what they did in college facing similar competition.

Zeke:
Att: 592, Yards: 3,961, Avg: 6.7, TD's: 43
Rec: 58, Yards: 449, Avg: 7.7, TD's: 1

Saquon
Att: 671, Yards: 3,843, Avg: 5.7, TD's: 43
Rec: 102, Yards: 1,195, Avg: 11.7, TD's: 8


Saquon has been called a generational talent, and Zeke wasn't considered in the same class of Saquon, but clearly you can see Zeke has better rushing stats and 1 yard more per carry for their entire careers.

Bottomline I think is what we know, Zeke is the better rusher, Saquon is the better receiver.

What do you guys think?

No we dont know that. What we know is that Sequan, with probably the worst Oline on the planet is putting up numbers that Zeke put up with the best Oline in football. They are both incredible talents, but I lien towards Barkley. And thats even after the small sample size. He just seems like he is more of a big play, make something out of nothing, type back. Zeke is probably a little better for the tough yards and moving the pile. Thats about it for me.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Hard to stack the box though, when u are worried about OBJ, Engram and so on.

There is no Engram. Stop saying that. LOL

No one is worried about the Giants passing game. Giants have probably the worst Oline in football. If anyone has it worse, its barkely and thats not debatable.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Saquon is more elusive in the open field while Zeke looks for contact often and bulldozes. Both can be good in the passing game but Barkley will get more opportunities there.......Zeke is a better blocker. I think Zeke will be more durable in the long run, he is built like an Ewok after all

Barkley is actually bigger. And why would you take a guy long term that invites contact and seeks to run over people? It would be the opposite.

 

[HungryLion]

The comparison to me is kind of useless.

They are different style backs. But they are both awesome.

Zeke has strengths that are better than Barkley.

Barkley has strengths that are better than Zeke.

But again they are both all pro,MVP level running backs. So what’s the big deal with splitting hairs beyond that?

 

[jazzcat22]

I'd like to compare our franchise RB with the Giants franchise RB.
We have a very small sample size so far with Saquon in the NFL, but what we can do is compare the two and what they did in college facing similar competition.

Zeke:
Att: 592, Yards: 3,961, Avg: 6.7, TD's: 43
Rec: 58, Yards: 449, Avg: 7.7, TD's: 1

Saquon
Att: 671, Yards: 3,843, Avg: 5.7, TD's: 43
Rec: 102, Yards: 1,195, Avg: 11.7, TD's: 8


Saquon has been called a generational talent, and Zeke wasn't considered in the same class of Saquon, but clearly you can see Zeke has better rushing stats and 1 yard more per carry for their entire careers.

Bottomline I think is what we know, Zeke is the better rusher, Saquon is the better receiver.

What do you guys think?

So this is in the NCAA. Does not always translate to the NFL. But it is what people go by, and what the scouts must take into consideration.
To me the receiving depends on the QB and the style. And so far in the NFL, that is all Eli does is throw to Barkley, because it is all he can do. His WR's have not been getting open. So it seems.

I do appreciate the comparison though. Actually pretty close on the rushing. But at OSU, a different style than Penn state as far as the QB's were. They both used them wisely within their schemes.

Zeke is well established in the NFL, and Barkley is just getting going. But give me Zeke as he can move those chains on short yardage situations, as he has the power to do so, so it seem, more than Barkley.
I have no idea what kind of pass protection Barkley brings, as we do in Zeke.

I won't say Barkley is the better receiver as we don't really know Zeke's impact on that, but we are starting to find out from these past several games or so.

would be nice to compare their NFL numbers in a few years. But also depends on the teams.
People want to say it is an Emmitt vs. Barry all over.
Well to me it isn't. I take Emmitt and Zeke over those other 2 all day, every day. no debates, and it is not just because they are Cowboys players.

 

[Longboysfan]

Zeke has a vastly superior offensive line.

And will so for the near future.

 

[Kage]

The real question is;

What is bigger, Zeke's head or Barkleys thigh?

 

[Rayman70]

lol...I can't believe what Im seeing on here. Did anyone see what Zeke and that oline did to the leagues' number 1 D last week? You can't measure on paper what Zeke brings to a team. He is a hammer with speed.vision and now he catches passes. His best quality has been durability. That's the best trait any player can have at this level...especially a RB or QB. Barkley is reggie bush 2.0. The kid is very good, but lets hold off on the anointing oil and Gold Jacket. Lets see where he is stat wise and durability wise in 3 more years. My money is on Zeke.