Zeke, Zeke, Zeke. maybe Dak's not good enough?

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People are confusing concern with anti

People are confusing critical as bashing

There is not a bigger Dak Prescott fan than me(see the avi. Never had one until Dak came along btw. Not of a Cowboys player or Cowboys related) but I can't bury my head in the sand and pretend he hasn't been possibly the worst QB on the road.

Top 3 at home
Bottom 3 on the road

Just reality
 
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What was Dak supposed to do last Sunday? He spent 80% of the game running for his life. If they had played on real grass, Dak's jersey would have been green and brown by the end of the game. He spent nearly every pass play on his back.


The problem is that last week was not his first "bad statistical game". And it won't be his last. People kept insisting that " Dak has bad stats because we have zeke but he would have 300 yards 5 TD games if zeke wasn't here". Turns out the only reason Dak had 225 yards 2 RD games was Zeke. Without him? 150 yards 0 TD. I know stats aren't everything, but it shows that the running game made Dak.
 

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John Elway sucked too, couldnt win the big one without a great RB.


Win the "big one"??!!

We just hope Dak can win a game!
On a serious note, Elway was very consistent he posted good stats even before TD came into the league. So there' that...
 

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The problem is that last week was not his first "bad statistical game". And it won't be his last. People kept insisting that " Dak has bad stats because we have zeke but he would have 300 yards 5 TD games if zeke wasn't here". Turns out the only reason Dak had 225 yards 2 RD games was Zeke. Without him? 150 yards 0 TD. I know stats aren't everything, but it shows that the running game made Dak.
Totally not true
 

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People are confusing concern with anti

People are confusing critical as bashing

There is not a bigger Dak Prescott fan than me(see the avi. Never had one until Dak came along btw. Not of a Cowboys player or Cowboys related) but I can't bury my head in the sand and pretend he hasn't been possibly the worst QB on the road.

Top 3 at home
Bottom 3 on the road


Just reality

I don't see this. He had a passer rating of over 100 both on the road and at home last year. This season he is around 97 at home and about 94 on the road. I guess I just don't see this Jeckyll and Hyde difference that you do.
 

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Amazing how many football "experts and coaches" we have. Prescott has performed beyond any expectations. Is he the real deal? No one really knows until after two or three seasons. The facts are that he has done well and bad at home as well as on the road but the biggest key is he has learned and grown and become a great leader. This isn't a one man show. WR have to get open and catch those catch-able balls, line has to block even when they don't get assistance, defense has to do their job in stopping teams, and everyone on the field has to work together. Still the other team has a say in things, it's not like we play Cleveland ever week.

The season isn't over although if the TEAM plays like last week then for all practical purposes it will be over sooner than later. We are not a complete team yet in any way. We need a WR that actually demands a double team or at the very least a safety that rolls toward his side, we need a healthy LT so the RB and QB have more than one second to do anything, we need the LB corp to set up when Lee is sidelined (not like he has been healthy all year every year), and we need to function as complete units, if not well we all have seen what happens when we give up once a good player goes down.
 

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It is not so much about Zeke or DeMarco, etc. The problem is that our stale, outdated offensive scheme relies on a bellcow/stud RB. Guys like Morris or whoever would be fine backs, just not in this offense. It not only needs that special back but an Oline as well with a capable QB. Take any one of those away and you see the results.

Dak is good enough to run this offense as long as no one gets injured/suspended on the line or at RB. He is not ready to carry a team through the air. Romo tried his best(10 times the QB as Dak) and got nowhere.

Romo's best season had Murray(his personal best) and lost in playoffs. Dak had Zeke and had the same results as Romo with Murray. See a pattern here?

There is a fundamental flaw in Dallas and it is not with the QB's. If every cog in the wheel is there, the offense flows. But, break one cog, the wheel falls off.

That is because the scheme/system is terrible and outdated. Couple that with coaches who have no innovation or creativity and you see the same results.

Good coaches gameplan for their opponent and attack their weaknesses. Our braintrust does the same thing over and over hoping it is enough with a small wrinkle here and there nevermind who has an injury at that point in time.

Our offense is predicated on an elite run game, so yes, missing Zeke(and Smith) is huge. Again, it needs an elite run game, not just a good one.

Bashing Dak is getting old. Did he not lead us to 13-3 last season with that elite run game? He is more than capable of doing the job but he will never be a Rodgers, Brees or Montana.

There are many reasons why this team never meets expectations but Dak and Romo are not among them. There is one common denominator and that is the GM Jerry which leads to a second denominator in Garrett.

BTW, I only included Romo in this because you liked to rag on him as well. Bottom line...........coaching and a stale offensive scheme hold this team down more than anything.

I don't even want to address the defensive side tonight :D

What a post I love it when I can exit a thread in less than 5
 

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So much time and effort put into threads like this. I don't get it. The Questions are simple. The answers even more simple. What's that line, "Keep it simple.........."?

Yeah, this one was pretty obvious.
 

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It's hard to win when your LT played one of the worst games an OL could play and you have zero resemblance of a coaching staff to help with adjustments. They keep trotting out the same gameplan and scheme. He had zero time to find anyone and when he did, his WRs were not getting open. Especially one of the most overrated WRs in this league that whines when he doesn't get the ball.
 

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I don't see this. He had a passer rating of over 100 both on the road and at home last year. This season he is around 97 at home and about 94 on the road. I guess I just don't see this Jeckyll and Hyde difference that you do.
Shallow thinking

Yards per drive?

First downs?

Sustained drives?
 
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Layman only see's what's in front of them, the obvious. Zeke wasn't there, everyone says he's the best player on the team, simple reason why the offense was bad on Sunday

A deep thinker knows this offense would've struggled w Zeke, just like it did in Denver w him, Arizona w him, and even Washington where the Cowboys were extremely lucky on offense. Not to mention Minnesota and New York at the end of last season. 24 combined points with Zeke

Dak plays scared on the road

Talk about Zeke all you won't, but runners are a dime a dozen.

Zeke or not, we're not doing nothing vs this remaining schedule, unless the QB grows a pair.


1. Maybe the pass catchers aren't good enough
2. Maybe the offense design isn't good enough
3. Maybe losing Zeke hurt a little

Doesn't change the fact: Dak has been garbage on the road since the Pittsburgh game on Nov 13, 2016.(He had a decent showing vs a rag tag in San Fran, he made some plays vs Ari, but nothing close to a consistent high level)

Show me something!! Poise!! Any thing but the fear I've seen since Pittsburgh. To honest I seen it that day but he rebounded w a beautiful third and fourth quarters.


I'm tired of watching him look like He-Man at home but then looking like that scary tiger on the road

This is bigger than no Zeke

We have a large sample of him looking petrified on the road w Zeke

"This been brewing" - The great Dusty Rhodes

Thanks for allowing me to vent out loud
What a stupid post. Scared on the road? Just dumb.
http://www.nfl.com/player/dakprescott/2555260/situationalstats
 

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https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PresDa01/splits/
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PresDa01/splits/
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Overall, his stats are pretty much the same on the road vs. at home. The glaring difference is the number of sacks...but 8 of those 29 sacks just occurred on Sunday :facepalm:
 

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It is not so much about Zeke or DeMarco, etc. The problem is that our stale, outdated offensive scheme relies on a bellcow/stud RB. Guys like Morris or whoever would be fine backs, just not in this offense. It not only needs that special back but an Oline as well with a capable QB. Take any one of those away and you see the results.
So let me make sure about this, we change to an offense that doesn't require a running back, doesn't require an OLine, doesn't use a TE and we are Super Bowl bound... got it.
 

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Layman, shallow thinker

Do people watch the game?

Have any guy instincts?

He performs at a much higher level at home than he does on the road

See you in Oakland...
Lol. Instincts. Sure thing kido.
 

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Shallow thinking

Yards per drive?

First downs?

Sustained drives?

So what are those numbers then? There may be a slight difference in home vs away, but you may it sound like it is a night & day difference (you said he was top 3 @ home vs bottom 3 on the road). To me that just sounds like a terrible use of hyperbole to prove a very little, if any, point. Just my opinion...
 
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