Zimmer from the media's perspective

[HoleInTheRoof]

What puzzles me is when you read articles on Zimmer, they always refer to him as one of hte better DC's in the league.

Despite his continuous inability to pressure offenes, and his routine chokes late in games, I have never seen him get called out.

How many times have we seen teams march right down the field on us late in the 4th, after we've taken a go-ahead score?

In 2005, San Diego did it and had 1st and goal with a chance to win.
The next week, Washington did it.
The Giants did it in 2005, at Texas Stadium.
Seattle did it to us last year.
The Colts did it this year.
The Giants did it and tied us this year.

I mean, thats 6 times I can remember off the top of my head in just the past two years. And that isn't even including how many times it might have happened since Zimmer has been here, like during the 2002 game against San Francisco at Texas Stadium.

Granted, not all the teams converted (San Diego/Indy) but they marched down the field and were in position. They were able to get a chance. Sometimes teams would often convert on 4th and long to do it as well.

Did I forget any games?

When will Zimmer finally get called out for his passive, reactive play-calling and game plans?

Can we get someone in here with some killer instinct?

 

[Joe_Fan]

What puzzles me is when you read articles on Zimmer, they always refer to him as one of hte better DC's in the league.

Despite his continuous inability to pressure offenes, and his routine chokes late in games, I have never seen him get called out.

How many times have we seen teams march right down the field on us late in the 4th, after we've taken a go-ahead score?

In 2005, San Diego did it and had 1st and goal with a chance to win.
The next week, Washington did it.
The Giants did it in 2005, at Texas Stadium.
Seattle did it to us last year.
The Colts did it this year.
The Giants did it and tied us this year.

I mean, thats 6 times I can remember off the top of my head in just the past two years. And that isn't even including how many times it might have happened since Zimmer has been here, like during the 2002 game against San Francisco at Texas Stadium.

Granted, not all the teams converted (San Diego/Indy) but they marched down the field and were in position. They were able to get a chance. Sometimes teams would often convert on 4th and long to do it as well.

Did I forget any games?

When will Zimmer finally get called out for his passive, reactive play-calling and game plans?

Can we get someone in here with some killer instinct?

Don't you realize it.. it's always the players fault.. never Zimmers.

That being said.. you're spot on man.

 

[ravidubey]

Though you make sense, stats folks are lining up to say you're wrong. Disregard them; GROZ lives and is stronger than ever.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

What puzzles me is when you read articles on Zimmer, they always refer to him as one of hte better DC's in the league.

Despite his continuous inability to pressure offenes, and his routine chokes late in games, I have never seen him get called out.

How many times have we seen teams march right down the field on us late in the 4th, after we've taken a go-ahead score?

In 2005, San Diego did it and had 1st and goal with a chance to win.
The next week, Washington did it.
The Giants did it in 2005, at Texas Stadium.
Seattle did it to us last year.
The Colts did it this year.
The Giants did it and tied us this year.

I mean, thats 6 times I can remember off the top of my head in just the past two years. And that isn't even including how many times it might have happened since Zimmer has been here, like during the 2002 game against San Francisco at Texas Stadium.

Granted, not all the teams converted (San Diego/Indy) but they marched down the field and were in position. They were able to get a chance. Sometimes teams would often convert on 4th and long to do it as well.

Did I forget any games?

When will Zimmer finally get called out for his passive, reactive play-calling and game plans?

Can we get someone in here with some killer instinct?

We have a HOF head coach and an owner not afraid to fire any one.
Zimmer has been our problem since he has been here according to fans. I assume Parcells and Jones don't think along those lines.

 

[khiladi]

But... But... we are a solid run defense...

the states don't lie....

 

[Joe_Fan]

Though you make sense, stats folks are lining up to say you're wrong. Disregard them; GROZ lives and is stronger than ever.

We're paper champions in regards to our defense.

We always look great on paper but when we actually need our defense to stand up.. well, enough said.

 

[khiladi]

I'm beginning to wait anxiously for Parcells to leave now...

 

[SA_Gunslinger]

this is another great example of why i'm glad the board doesn't run the team.

zimmer ain't the problem.

 

[Joe_Fan]

We have a HOF head coach and an owner not afraid to fire any one.
Zimmer has been our problem since he has been here according to fans. I assume Parcells and Jones don't think along those lines.

Oh, so you mean the same HOF head coach who has been mediocre since he's been here and didn't have his team prepared for the Saints?



And who the frick cares about what Jerruh thinks? When was the last time he's had coaches here that have put together a great team or a serious playoff team? This year is the closest that we've been and that's still not saying much.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

I'm beginning to wait anxiously for Parcells to leave now...

Last weeks hero, this weeks dog. We beat Atlanta and the masses make him a hero again.

 

[Joe_Fan]

this is another great example of why i'm glad the board doesn't run the team.

zimmer ain't the problem.

Zimmer ain't the problem?

Sure could have fooled me.

Heck, let's go blame it on the players so more.. it's always there fault.

I mean why should coaches be expected to coach?

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Oh, so you mean the same HOF head coach who has been mediocre since he's been here and didn't have his team prepared for the Saints?



And who the frick cares about what Jerruh thinks? When was the last time he's had coaches here that have put together a great team or a serious playoff team? This year is the closest that we've been and that's still not saying much.

Please tell me what Parcells had to work with when he arrived? Then tell me where we are talent wise now. One bad game dude. Any one who thought it was a quick fix after ten years......... well responds like you do.

 

[Joe_Fan]

Last weeks hero, this weeks dog. We beat Atlanta and the masses make him a hero again.

Last weeks hero? Parcells?

After watching a defense nearly throw away yet another game?

Yeah, we won.. barely.. but do you honestly think the Giants or any other NFC team is afraid to play us come playoff time?

I'm sure in heck not afraid of our defense and I bet the Gints can't wait to humiliate us again.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Zimmer ain't the problem?

Sure could have fooled me.

Heck, let's go blame it on the players so more.. it's always there fault.

I mean why should coaches be expected to coach?

Yeah, it must be the players.

Sadly, that falls back on the coach as well.

Because we've spent draft after draft, as well as millions in free agency trying to build a defense.

Unfortunately, Zimmer doesn't have the ability to develop players.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Please tell me what Parcells had to work with when he arrived? Then tell me where we are talent wise now. One bad game dude. Any one who thought it was a quick fix after ten years......... well responds like you do.

No one mentioned last nights game, clown.

Re-read the first post in this thread, and it points to 6 games in the past two years.

 

[SA_Gunslinger]

Heck, let's go blame it on the players so more.. it's always there fault.

haha, that has to be the funniest statement i've read in days. and that's not including you improper use of "there."

thanks...i needed a good laugh.

 

[Joe_Fan]

Please tell me what Parcells had to work with when he arrived? Then tell me where we are talent wise now. One bad game dude. Any one who thought it was a quick fix after ten years......... well responds like you do.

Let's see here..

We constantly change our defensive personnel, draft constant 1st round defensive players, and yet still the same result on defense.

But no.. of course it's not the coaches fault who don't utilize their players properly.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Zimmer ain't the problem?

Sure could have fooled me.

Heck, let's go blame it on the players so more.. it's always there fault.

I mean why should coaches be expected to coach?

Never seen a coach play from the side lines. What would you have done different? This should be entertaining.

 

[Joe_Fan]

haha, that has to be the funniest statement i've read in days. and that's not including you inproper use of "there."

thanks...i needed a good laugh.

Oh, wow.. a grammar ****.

Hey, enjoy the mediocre defense. It's great.

 

[Joe_Fan]

Never seen a coach play from the side lines. What would you have done different? This should be entertaining.

First of all I wouldn't go cover 2 when we haven't been able to run it properly in years.

Adopting a defensive philosophy that tries to generate a pass rush might be nice too. But heck, why would we want to do that? Our think run first mentality seems to be so much better.