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Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by SHAMSzy, Aug 23, 2013.

  1. SHAMSzy

    SHAMSzy Active Member

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    We have the third best talent in the NFL behind the 49ers and Seahawks..

    http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=dallascowboys&id=4713247

    Overrated? True? Can we finally make something of this talent? We even have guys who can easily qualify for this list after this year.. Smith and Murray on offense.. Hatcher, Carter, and possibly Church on defense.. When you look at it we are loaded with talent. Unfortunately our depth is not up to par.

    Really hope we can finally make this thing work.. Cowboys have to be the most frustrating team to be a fan of the past decade bar none.
  2. tupperware

    tupperware A Plastic Container

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    Raw talent has never been the issue with this team.
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  3. Mookie

    Mookie Active Member

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    Do you remember the early 2000s?
  4. EMMITTnROY

    EMMITTnROY Well-Known Member

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    That was actually a very well written, fair article.

    I've always thought we've had enough talent. Since 2007, really. The problem, to me, has been 1. injuries 2. coaching 3. lack of an offensive line and secondary. I truly think the second and third things will be much improved this year. If we avoid injuries, big things can happen with this team.
  5. FiveRings

    FiveRings Well-Known Member

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    I agree. If the NFL is 7-on-7....Championship!
  6. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    He did say "this team" as in recent years. The talent has been here since 07.
  7. Califan007

    Califan007 Well-Known Member

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    That's not actually what it's saying, though lol...

    53 guys on a roster...Theoretically, you can have 10 players in the top 100 and the other 43 players ranking no higher than 250.

    Meanwhile, another team could have 20 players all ranked in the top 250, but only 6 of them in the top 100.

    Which roster is more "talented"?
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  8. Aurican

    Aurican Active Member

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    Good skill position talent but like the article says, lacking talent on the offensive line also will add mentally weak and poorly coached.
  9. GoCowboysGo

    GoCowboysGo Active Member

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    It's where the talent is that is frustrating. No doubt, Romo, Dez, Ware, Lee, Carter, etc are great players, but the D line is mostly the same just a year older and the O line has one upgrade in Frederick that I think is going to be a stud for a while, but....Smith might be over rated, Free still needs help from the guard (who will it be?), and both guard positions are pretty poor performers.

    Last year the Cowboys had the poorest rushing total in team history, even when they played fewer games. We really only upgraded one spot on both lines? In the preseason games, so far the starting offense has produced three points? Is that right?

    No depth...and a GM that is .500 since 1997.

    Hard to keep getting your hopes up, then watching the team implode because we have no depth and yet year after year we are maxed out with regards to the salary cap.

    I'm hoping for 11-5....
  10. perrykemp

    perrykemp Well-Known Member

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    It seems to me this article isn't about overall team talent.... It doesn't take into account depth..... Depth plays a huge factor in playoff success.
  11. TheCount

    TheCount Pixel Pusher

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    Every year, it never fails.
  12. Idgit

    Idgit Ice up, son. Ice up! Staff Member

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    This is another of those examples where the OL is blamed (in part), despite the overall effectiveness of the passing game.

    Meanwhile, with all this talent on the roster, we're -13 in TO differential, and with last year's injury problems with some of these key players, it's not really all that much of a mystery why this talented roster underachieves.
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  13. tupperware

    tupperware A Plastic Container

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    Eh, I wasn't really looking back that far, but okay. I'm talking about the Romo era, mostly.
  14. Arkyvarminter

    Arkyvarminter Well-Known Member

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    I know this won't go over well with some but we are one of the most poorly coached teams in the league. This is our problem and has been for some time....
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  15. Aven8

    Aven8 Well-Known Member

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    Bingo. And has been the root of the problem for years now. One more year to see if we can get it right. He has been given all the tools to succeed. Some could say this is an all star coaching staff. Kiffin, Marinelli, Biacchi, and Cally are no slouches. Now can the main cog put it together finally? We will find out soon enough.
  16. bkight13

    bkight13 Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    I think this is the most talented team we've had in a long time. The LBs, DBs, DL, WRs, TEs, RBs and QBs are very solid. The OL has its warts, but is improving with TFred as the key. The Safeties need to show something and the coaching has to improve. The main problem has been execution and discipline, playing football for 60 minutes, not always trying to turn it on and come back. I still won't be sold until I see it multiple weeks on the field and not on paper.
  17. cowboys2233

    cowboys2233 Well-Known Member

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    Eh, maybe. Good ol' Wade Phillips and his Cuppycake Camps have built quite a reputation over the years. On the other hand, I really think it underscores just how important offensive and defensive lines can be. Yes, we've had great players at the skill positions for some time now, but since 2007 (when I thought we had a real legitimate shot to go to the SB), we've really struggled up front, particularly on the offensive line. I think those issues have negated so much of our skill positions, it's not even funny.

    I hope this year isn't just a continuation of that. But I'm starting to worry.
  18. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Staff Member

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    That should not be an excuse this year.
  19. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    Definitely overrated. That's lazy. That's just looking at skill positions. Evaluate the entire roster. This team is average at best at the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball and I'm being extremely generous to say average in terms of the offense.
  20. ScipioCowboy

    ScipioCowboy More than meets the eye. Zone Supporter

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    The Cowboys are a team of high highs and low lows. In terms of offensive skill position talent, you won't find a better team in the NFC; both edge rushers were in the Pro Bowl last season; and, the linebacking corps is one of the best in the league.

    However, there are positions--specifically offensive line and safety--where they are starting players who would be hard pressed to start on some of the better collegiate football teams. They trotted out Bill Nagy at guard in 2011, and he didn't even start at Wisconsin. And last season, they were relying on Danny McCray at safety.

    The talent acquisition at offensive line and safety must improve if this team wants any hope of a deep playoff run.

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