Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by juck, Jun 8, 2009.
I didn't get too either. But somebody filled me in.
Luke swan got kicked off.
If it's Hawkins, he might never be worthy as a wide receiver, but if he can show something as a kick returner, he might have a chance.
Michael Lewis (the kick returner, not the safety) started out a notch below most of the guys on the show, but he became an All-Pro.
I'm a big fan of Holley, but I'll be happy with Hawkins as well. They're my top two, and both can ball.
I like Moten as well. Seems like he's always making a play.
Dont worry if you missed it, they will reshow it at least 5 more times this week.
Same here. From the first day they showed video from these guys' college days, Hawkins stuck out for me.
For a "bum" taking the 80 spot on the training camp roster, he's got some pretty unique fluidity in the way he runs. Not only is he blazing fast straight-line wise, but he's able to run routes without much wasted movement. Granted, he's small, but he has that route-running ability and speed that you have to have when you're undersized.
I was dead set against this TV show from the start, but I must admit, I kinda think this guy makes the team too. It doesn't matter who he's going up against in this show. If you look past the opponent, you see him doing some pretty interesting things in the way he runs, cuts, jukes and gets open that you wouldn't expect from someone so unheralded.
Punt returner? Competitor for some playing time as a slot receiver? Wouldn't surprise me. I like this kid.
Have you seen any of it? I recommend you try to catch this episode. Look past *who* Hawkins is beating, and look solely on how he does it. I know it sounds silly on the surface, but he's surprisingly good.
For those who wanted a recap, the offense had to score five times or the defense needed five stops to get the victory in the drill. Hawkins scored three of the offense's touchdowns.
But again, Hos, the TDs are immaterial. The way he was scoring them was eye catching. His fluidity is something to watch. His body is leaning one way while his legs are high-gearing it the other.
Let's put it this way. If he wins this show, the show will have given us a much, much better training camp body -- at worst -- than I ever imagined.
You can watch online at spike.com, or you can wait till Thursday when it re-airs. But if you can't wait, I'll post below what happens. If you want to wait DON'T READ ANY FURTHER!
Darren Woodson makes a guest appearance to sort of talk up the dbs. The first drill was the jump ball in the corner of the end zone. The dbs clearly had the advantage since they knew exactly where the wrs were going. Still Holley, Gonzalez, and Hawkins had some nice grabs. Motrel Jones looked like crap. Plenty of interceptions as well. Ahmaad Smith and Donte Gamble stood out to me as strong performers. WR Luke Swan spent the entire drill on the bike, trying to keep his legs warm. After the drill was over Michael Irvin basically told Steve Gonzalez he needs to tighten up.
The scrimmage later that night was the 2 minute drill in which the ball is placed on the offense's 30 yard line. All the wrs would run routes against all the dbs at the same time, with a practice quarterback trying to throw them the ball and move the line of scrimmage 70 yards for a touchdown. A few of the dbs performed well, particularly Moten who had a pick six. Outside of that it got pretty ugly for the dbs with the wrs running all over them. They all had some nice grabs. Even Montrell Jones. The two wrs who stood out to me the most were Holley and Hawkins with Hawkins being by far the best athlete on the field. Kid is just so fast, makes some disgusting cuts and is just all over the place. There was one play where Holley caught the ball, then lateralled to Hawkins who just burned everyone on the field.
In the end it came down to Washington and Swan, with Swan getting the cut. He tried at one point in the show to get on the field and make some cuts but he was no match to the dbs. Having lost a step, Michael Irvin and co. agreed there is no purpose in keeping him. It is unfortunate, but his injury cannot allow him to proceed on the show.
Hope that helps those who missed!!! Also, if I'm wrong on my recollection please let me know!
Nice recap, LSU. And I agree on Montrell Jones. He's one of those guys who looks good in pads (other than the fact he's considerably overweight still), but just doesn't impress me. Irvin called him a "beast" last week I believe, but I don't see it. He's sluggish on the field, doesn't exhibit much explosion or hops, and is generally just a tease for a man his size.
Yeah I totally agree. I think Montrell should be a tight end somewhere. He's got the body for it, if he could learn to block maybe he can get on with some team there. But he absolutely comes across to me as lazy.
No, he's still on 'Get me out of here I am a celebrity', lol.
If Hawkins has any chance it's because he may get a shot as the punt returner.
Without revealing another spoiler, one of the two guys you mentioned wasn't in the War Room at the end. Maybe you got them mixed up.
Bill Bates started off as a ham & egger. Glad that the coaches at the time didn't think he was unworthy.
What does it matter where a guy came from if he can play?
Just what is a "ham and egger"?
Most of these guys are a complete joke like many here are saying. Montrell Jones has all the physical ability in the world but he's dumb as a brick and just kinda goofy. Gamble has the right mentality but is too small and doesn't stand out in any one area. Washington is just down right laughable. The majority of the rest of them are just guys.
But Hawkins... can play. You could see that early on and it's becoming more and more evident that he is in a different league altogether when compared to the others. Lucky for Dallas, he happens to appear as the most intelligent, well-grounded guy out there AND plays a style/position that the Cowboys do not currently have filled on their roster. He also has NFL bloodlines. I'm absolutely cheering for him. The league has taken a shift towards the Wes Welkers/Darren Sproles' of the game now and little, shifty guys CAN succeed in today's game.
On a side note, I think Smith is best of the DBs.
I disagree with that.
I finally watched a little of this show last night and Hawkins was impressive given the competition.
He looked like he was a step above the DBs who were covering him in that drill. He was very quick and fast.
That still doesn't mean he can play in the NFL. It just means he's better than the group of DBs playing against him in these skeleton drills. He's very very small and while he looks like he's blazing, that doesn't mean much.
I guess he is this year's Amendola.
I think we've created a new adjective.
I agree that Hawkins will be the winner.
It has so many uses. Adjective, action verb, even a noun.
When a vertically challenged spunky fellow with no chance to make it impresses someone based off YouTube highlights:
"He's a little Amendolaish. I am rooting for him."
When they fumble a punt return in their first exhibition game:
"Ah, man, he Amendolaed! He's gotta wrap up when he's hit."
When he runs a bad route and it results in a game-losing interception:
"That was an Amendola, he cut it too short."
When they don't see significant time in the final preseason game:
"I don't get what it wrong with our coaches. He got Amendolaed and it wasn't fair. He didn't even get a chance to show what he can do."
When said player doesn't even get signed to a future's contract with Dallas and signs with another team:
"We will Amendola the day we let that guy get away."
I will rue the day I didn't realize the full capabilities of that word.