Another monkey heard from...

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Kittymama, Aug 8, 2006.

  1. Kittymama

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    Gallowaste is back.

    Leave Greg Ellis alone

    From Galloway ...

    Been on vacation, OK?

    And been lazy, too. Some things never change.

    But it's a new blogging season, and here we go:

    My new favorite Cowboy is one of my old favorite Cowboys.

    Greg Ellis.

    As you know, he's now a linebacker.

    I hope it works. Apparently, there has been some positive progress for Ellis at linebacker out in Oxnard.

    And I will see for myself when I show up in California next week.

    But how did one of the best guys ever to wear the uniform, and one of the hardest-working players, suddenly become a media rip-job target?

    Damn, that makes me mad.

    Ellis was hot, and rightfully so, that at age 31, he was being told by Bill Parcells to move from defensive end to linebacker.

    If Ellis wasn't a size-wise fit for Parcells at end in the 3-4, then Big Bill should have done with him what he did with La'Roi Glover. Let him walk. Let him go to another team.

    Instead, Parcells dropped the hammer on Ellis. He wouldn't be traded, and there was no guarantee he would play. Big Bill ordered him to move to linebacker, or else.

    Ellis protested all spring and summer. And the local media seemed to be mad at Ellis, not Parcells.

    I disagree. Parcells was wrong to do this to a classy veteran.

    And my opinion on that won't change even if Ellis handles the switch to linebacker. Which I hope he does.
  2. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    Those monkeys with keyboards are pretty active today.;)

    The media was very apologetic and has been for the past two years. It was only recently when Ellis complained when he landed in Oxnard that the negative media came out. But people like Jean-Jacques Taylor have been writing apology pieces for months, even years.

    I guess it would since apparently you haven't been paying attention very well.

    And now that Ellis has given it a try, well gosh durn it, that durn Parcells was right. Again.

    No, he shouldn't. That would mean any player could feel he could talk his way out of town. That is what a weak leader would do.

    Dropped the "hammer"? How? Ellis had no choice. Sometimes petulent children used to getting their own way must be spoken to in a stern matter, especially if it is for their own good.

    Who was mad? I missed those articles.

    Unbelieveable. The team might be better because Coach Parcells insisted, but this imbecile wants to complain about this because Ellis might have had a bruised ego at one point or another.

    I wish he would stay out of the loop more often.
  3. Kittymama

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    Yes we are!!! :p: :p: :p: :p:
  4. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    While I understand Ellis frustration with the move during the off-season I also feel BP thinks Ellis can do the job or they would not have paid the roster bonus and instead would have released him or traded him. According to reports Ellis is catching on and has been at least receptive to learning the position and has been doing a good job thus far.
  5. InmanRoshi

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    He put aside the 12 year old topic of Jerry vs. Jimmy to chime in on the 2 month old topic of Greg Ellis? Grandpa Urine is getting up to speed.
  6. superpunk

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  7. Chief

    Chief "Friggin Joke Monkey"

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    If Parcells would have run off or traded Ellis, Galloway and Company would have been ripping Parcells for that.

    Parcells is trying to get his best pass-rushers on the field.

    And win some games.

    He's not "wrong" to do that. It's his fricking job.
  8. Kittymama

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    :lmao2: :lmao2:

    I guess we should give him credit that he didn't recycle that newfangled TO discussion.

    Probably will do that tomorrow, when he again reminds us how bad that Herschel Walker trade was.
  9. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    I want my El Doradoes.:(
  10. Double Trouble

    Double Trouble Well-Known Member

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    Ellis is an asset that belongs to the organization. It would be the height of stupidity to just set him free, given his contract situation. That Galloway would insist such is just him being incendiary.
  11. Yakuza Rich

    Yakuza Rich Well-Known Member

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    Whoa, whoa, whoa. When did Ellis become one of the best ever to put on a Cowboys uniform?

  12. DLCassidy

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    Did Glover get released because Parcells was doing what was best for Glover? It may have worked out that way but that's not why it was done. BP isn't here to stroke egos or pander to player's money concerns. Here's here to do his level best to win games. Period. If that works out to GE's advantage, wonderful. If not...
  13. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    That's what's definitely disappointing coming from Galloway.

    He along with Frank Luksa is one of the few Dallas writers who should have a very good understanding of who great Dallas Cowboys were because he was around to see the teams of the 1960s and 1970s.

    This kind of statement just shows that he is either senile, or has sold his soul to the shock value gods or both.
  14. aikemirv

    aikemirv Well-Known Member

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    I don't fault Ellis at all for wanting out of Dallas and trying to use the media to make it known how much he wanted out and I don't fault BP and Jerry for forcing his hand and making him stay. That is the business side of it and BP and Jerry had the upper hand in this deal and they used it.

    Those are the facts - we needed his passrushing ability and we kept it!

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    I agree with everything said.
  16. InmanRoshi

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    Tony Tolbert was treated far worse by the Cowboys organization, and Greg Ellis couldn't hold his jock. Much less be mentioned as one of the "greatest players to ever wear the jersey".

    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    I don't know that I would agree Rosh. Tolbert played 9 season's and had only one with double digit sacks (12 in 96). Personally, I don't think he was better. To me, they are very simular players.

    I don't think the article said he was one of the greates players to ever wear the jersey. It said he was one of the best guys and one of the hardest working players. To me, that suggest something very different. Either way, I do agree with the article but I also understand that I am in a very small minority.
  18. InmanRoshi

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    Tolbert has five things Ellis has never smelled ... a double digit sack season, a Pro Bowl birth and 3 Superbowl Rings. Tolbert as a player was overshadowed by playing on a team of good players, while Greg Ellis had the opposite effect. Tolbert silently played through two crippled knees only to have the Cowboys sign his release papers in 99 to clear 3.5 millin and pave the way for a young defensive end they controversally reached for with a Top 10 pick to start immediately. Ellis didn't seem to mind the business of football so much then.
  19. skinsscalper

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    ABQCOWBOY Moderator Staff Member

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    Well, Ellis is not done yet. He may well have a double digit sack season before he's through. He will most certainly have more sacks. Ellis will play longer then 9 seasons and he already has 52 career sacks in comparison to 59 by Tolbert. I would also feel pretty safe in saying Ellis has been much better vs the run then was Tolbert. The Pro Bowl thing, well, I actually thought Ellis had made a pro bowl but maybe not. I could definatly be wrong. I guess if one Pro Bowl in 9 seasons makes one head and shoulders better, then OK, your original statement is correct. I, however, do not think that one Pro Bowl, especially when Ellis' days are not up, make Tony that much superior. 3 SuperBowls? It's a team sport. You said it yourself, Tony played with a lot of talent around him. Ellis has not been so lucky as yet. As far as the release papers, what did you expect the Cowboys to do? Tolbert played his last NFL game in 97. They released him in 99. Were they supposed to just keep waiting? I suppose you have a point. Perhaps the rookie Greg Ellis should have advised the team that because they drafted him in the top 10, he would not come in and start in 99. He should have held to a higher standard and refused to play until such time as Tony decided he was ready to retire. That certainly would have made a big differnence in how you view him I expect.

    That's a bit unrealistic wouldn't you say?

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