Anybody Do A No Wheat, No Dairy Diet/Cleanse?

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  1. Stryker44

    Stryker44 ^^^Skins Fan

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    280 Likes Received thinking about doing one of those juice cleanses which seems very similar to Paleo. Has anybody done this, if so, how was it?
  2. Denim Chicken

    Denim Chicken Well-Known Member

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    I'm about 75% paleo with light dairy (no wheat)
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  3. Stryker44

    Stryker44 ^^^Skins Fan

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    When you first start it, does your body suffer for energy and you have to go to the bathroom frequently as it detoxes?
  4. Denim Chicken

    Denim Chicken Well-Known Member

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    I've read it had that effect on some people. For me , energy stayed the same and I actually pooped less in the beginning (probably from lack of fiber).
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    dexternjack World Traveler

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  6. roughneck266

    roughneck266 Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    When I went Paleo I was pretty lethargic for a while. Couple, maybe three weeks. It took about a week for it to really hit me. The other thing I noticed is when I DID eat wheat or corn thereafter I felt like crap. I lost a lot of weight very quickly though, and after a few weeks felt a lot better. Takes a while to get to the Ketosis part of it.
    I am not 100% paleo either, the food here on the rig doesnt really permit it, best I can do out here is try to keep away from the carbs.
  7. 65fastback2plus2

    65fastback2plus2 Well-Known Member

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    high protein, low carbs

    best diet you can eat. wheat/flour based products im also apparently allergic to...makes my heart run 120-130bpm and my BP skyrockets.
  8. FiveRings

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    I've heard palleo is reeeally tough to maintain, but I am interested. No wheat/dairy sounds easier to do. What are the benefits vs. palleo?
  9. Doc50

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    There's no reason to ever think of needing a "cleansing" procedure. Colon "cleansing" can be fatal.
    Detoxification is a normal body process.
    There is no magic diet.

    Dietary problems have simply arisen from the proliferation of too much processed food -- that which is pre-prepared, full of sodium-based preservatives, and may contain fillers and other ingredients which are superfluous and possibly problematic.

    The proper diet should include 9 servings of green vegetables per day , only 3 servings of starch (corn, beans, rice, potatoes, bread, & pasta),
    4 servings of fresh fruit, and 3 servings of nuts and/or whole grains.

    Only those patients diagnosed with Celiac Sprue have a definitive gluten intolerance.
    Lactose deficiency is common, and may prohibit many people from tolerating dairy products.
    Odd dietary intolerances may include such things as Red Dye #3, or other additives.

    Good luck.
    Eat healthy.
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  10. Doc50

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    BTW, there is no need for any dietary supplements -- vitamins, minerals, herbs, etc, unless there is a documented deficiency.
    A healthy diet contains more than we need of those items, and adding extra (especially in megadoses) just impairs the liver and kidneys
    from optimal performance.

    Anyone who says otherwise is trying to sell you something, and therefore has a conflict of interest.
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  11. jnday

    jnday Well-Known Member

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    Why do people do these things to themselves and who comes up with it?
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  12. jobberone

    jobberone Kane Ala Staff Member

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    I've done Atkins which is high protein low carb and lost weight and felt good. I now do mostly authentic Chinese primarily Shandong and Sichuan with some Hebei, Hunan, Beijing and southern China cuisine. I don't often eat wheat products but primarily bean and rice noodles, rice, fresh vegetables, and fruit. Meat is mostly shrimp and chicken with infrequent beef and pork. We do eat some potato, sweet potato, and shan yao for carbs, too. Eggs but not a lot of dairy. If I eat American food I generally don't feel well afterwards. Paleo is fine. I enjoy Chinese cuisine more and its just as good for you.
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  13. 65fastback2plus2

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    For everyone, wheat/flour based stuff causes digestive problems because the stuff makes small incisions through your intestines.
  14. Doc50

    Doc50 Original Fan

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    That's an absolute lie. It has no scientific basis whatsoever.
  15. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Backwoods Sexy Staff Member

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    You mean wheat and flour do not have the ability to use scalpels or other tools to create incisions vs causing possible tears???!!!
  16. Denim Chicken

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    While there may not be a need for supplementation for survival for one who has a balanced diet, that is not to say there is no benefits from some vitamins / herbs.
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  17. 65fastback2plus2

    65fastback2plus2 Well-Known Member

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    whatever you believe it is an inflammatory ingredient to almost all people.
  18. CashMan

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    High protein, low-carb diets can cause a number of health problems, including:

    • Kidney failure. Consuming too much protein puts a strain on the kidneys, which can make a person susceptible to kidney disease.
    • High cholesterol . It is well known that high-protein diets (consisting of red meat, whole dairy products, and other high fat foods) are linked to high cholesterol. Studies have linked high cholesterol levels to an increased risk of developing heart disease, stroke, and cancer.
    • Osteoporosis and kidney stones. High-protein diets have also been shown to cause people to excrete a large amount of calcium in their urine. Over a prolonged period of time, this can increase a person's risk of osteoporosis and kidney stones. A diet that increases protein at the expense of a very restrictive intake of plant carbohydrates may be bad for bones, but not necessarily a high-protein intake alone.
    • Cancer. One of the reasons high-protein diets increase the risks of certain health problems is because of the avoidance of carbohydrate-containing foods and the vitamins, minerals, fiber, and antioxidants they contain. It is therefore important to obtain your protein from a diet rich in whole grains, fruits, and vegetables. Not only are your needs for protein being met, but you are also helping to reduce your risk of developing cancer.
    • Unhealthy metabolic state (ketosis). Low-carb diets can cause your body to go into a dangerous metabolic state called ketosis since your body burns fat instead of glucose for energy. During ketosis, the body forms substances known as ketones, which can cause organs to fail and result in gout, kidney stones, or kidney failure. Ketones can also dull a person's appetite, cause nausea and bad breath. Ketosis can be prevented by eating at least 100 grams of carbohydrates a day.

    Sounds, like the best diet!

    IMO, stop eating processed foods. Make home made meals, it is time consuming but it is worth it. Plenty of veggies and fruit.
  19. 65fastback2plus2

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    i went from high blood pressure and rapid heart rates while always feeling sluggish and would tire out mowing the lawn and weighed 185 (6' 2").

    I switched, bp came down to normal, no more heart rate spikes. Feel full of energy and ate all I want and dropped to 168 pounds (eating 3000 calories per day).

    This is the same type of hunter/gatherer eating that indians and other cultures have done for a long time. its definitely a good way to eat.
  20. Jenky

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    There's always going to be contradicting studies with new scientific findings. This is the biggest reason I don't even engage in this mess lol.

    IMO, there is no perfect diet, perfect food, perfect anything. It's all a trade off and unless you own a farm, raise your own cattle, harvest your own crops and do everything you can to produce your own food, there is no way you can be absolutely sure that what you're eating is good for your health.

    That's life. Make good decisions.

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