Anyone know if Thornton cleared waivers?

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  1. Cowboy from New York

    Cowboy from New York Well-Known Member

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    He had some good moments this preseason. Hope we luck out and can bring him back after week or two when Burnett is healthy :pray2: hopefully.
  2. ghst187

    ghst187 Well-Known Member

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    Wasn't it BRUCE thorton that was waived rather than KALEN thorton?
    I thought KALEN thorton went on IR.
    If I'm the one mistaken I will be upset because I really liked KALEN thorton's potential. He was really bringing the heat, even if it was against 2nd stringers.
    Bruce Thorton was a bust from the beginning and I knew that the second we drafted him. Hopefully we kept the RIGHT Thorton.
  3. Chocolate Lab

    Chocolate Lab Run-loving Dino

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    Yes, the cornerback Bruce was the one released...

    I checked KFFL, but I didn't see where he'd been claimed.

    But the fact that Parcells mentioned in the PC that "We don't know yet if Thornton has been claimed" makes me think that they definitely want to bring him back if possible.
  4. JackMagist

    JackMagist The Great Communicator

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    Yes Kalen (OLB) is on IR and Bruce (CB) was cut. I don't know it Bruce cleared waivers or not but I agree that he was a waste of a draft pick. Hopefully we just let him go.
  5. CowboyManDan

    CowboyManDan Well-Known Member

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    I think we should try tp bring Thornton back to the practice squad assuming he's eligible and doesn't get picked up. I think heneeds a little more time before we give up on him...he missed all of last year, so this was like a rookie year for him and I thought he played well the last couple preseason games.
  6. parchy

    parchy Active Member

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    Thornton is better than Reeves
  7. Quincy_Will_Return

    Quincy_Will_Return New Member

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    Yes, he did clear waivers.
  8. AbeBeta

    AbeBeta Benched

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    Funny, why then does Reeves play and Thornton get cut? Thornton couldn't beat out Jones. I was surprised BP drafted him because he's more of a Jerry type pick - looks like a player but doesn't play like one.
  9. morasp

    morasp Well-Known Member

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    He picked up quite a bit at the end of pre-season. I think that's why Parcells has the three year rule, a lot of these players go through quite a culture shock.
  10. AdamJT13

    AdamJT13 Salary Cap Analyst

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    Thornton is a better cornerback than either Reeves or Jones. But Reeves and Jones are both better on special teams and as nickel/slot defenders, and they both can play nickel safety. If Thornton was on our 53-man roster, he wouldn't be active on game days as long as Newman, Henry and Glenn all were healthy.
  11. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    So why isn't he on the team?
  12. Nors

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    He's a major bust.

    Total reach pick for the 4th.
    Let him be better on someone else's roster. If he even sticks in this league.
  13. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    So, is Coach Parcells in the habit of just releasing "better" players?

    So what makes either inferior to Thornton as cornerbacks? Care to qualify your statement?

    I love the mindset.

    People who do not watch the team on a day to day basis and are not football coaches feel fit to judge the decisions. If Thornton were indeed significantly better in any phase of his game, I don't think we would just expose him just because he cannot play special teams.

    What we should be asking ourselves is why can't he play special teams, not sitting here and glibly stating that he is better than what we have.

    I am very glad not a single poster in the cyberverse is in charge of this team.
  14. AdamJT13

    AdamJT13 Salary Cap Analyst

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    He releases less useful players. Quincy Morgan is a better receiver than Terrance Copper, but Copper is more useful. He's also younger and cheaper.

    At cornerback, Thornton is better in coverage than Reeves at cornerback or Jones at cornerback (which he rarely plays anyway). Reeves, though, does have the physical tools to be better than Thornton. It's not a huge difference, but Thornton is/was better at cornerback. But he never would have even dressed for a game unless Newman, Henry or Glenn -- or maybe even two of the three -- were hurt.

    Sure we would. NFL teams have to make sure they have the best combination of 45 players active on game days. A fourth cornerback who contributes little or nothing on special teams and doesn't have the ability to play other positions on defense IS NOT as valuable to a team as a fourth cornerback who plays special teams, plays in the slot and can play safety in a pinch. Even if we lose a little at the fourth cornerback spot by cutting Thornton, we came out ahead because of the contributions Reeves and Jones can make elsewhere.

    Thornton didn't play much special teams in college and wasn't good at it here. In case you haven't noticed, Parcells insists that backup players be able to contribute on special teams. If they can't, they're not as useful as one who can.

    I would have released Thornton, too, for the same reasons Parcells did.
  15. ghst187

    ghst187 Well-Known Member

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    what are you talking about? I'm in on all major decisions...although i stepped to the restroom while we made most of our draft picks the last 4 or 5 years. I just held it this year
  16. Nors

    Nors Benched

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    BP said Nate Jones was flat out ahead of Thornton in PC a few weeks back. Mentally got it, savy and he was gushing over him.

    He was lukewarm at best on Thornton, Thornton gone.

    He called out Reeves today in PC.

    I think Thornton was a TERRIBLE Reach and bust drfat pick. I said that the day we took him.
  17. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    Again, you have said nothing but opinion.

    Thornton could not beat out either Reeves or Jones in last year's training camp, when this team was crying out for options at right cornerback. And that had nothing to do with a numbers game and who had more prowess on special teams.

    Nobody was saying a thing about utility. Everyone should understand that. You made a statement. "Thornton is a better cornerback than Reeves".

    So, what are you basing that off of?

    College press clippings?

    It certainly cannot be anything he has shown as a professional.

    I have noticed that. I was not even going at the role on special teams. That is fairly obvious.

    I ask again, what makes Thornton a "better cornerback"?
  18. speedkilz88

    speedkilz88 Well-Known Member

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    On the pre-game show it was said that BP and the coaches were high on Thornton because he had the best tools out of the young cbs. He just needed to be more consistent. This is a guy that was originally a rb in college.
  19. AdamJT13

    AdamJT13 Salary Cap Analyst

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    What, did you ban opinions from being expressed in this forum? Sorry, but I must have missed that memo.

    Jones and Reeves were never in the competition at right cornerback during training camp. They were both on the left side, behind Newman. Thornton was competing with Hunter and Powell for the starting job on the right side. And when Powell was released, Thornton was No. 2 on Hunter's side. Reeves was No. 2 on Newman's side, and Jones was listed at No. 3 on Newman's side.

    I already gave you my opinion. From what I've seen this preseason, Thornton is better at cornerback than Reeves and Jones (slightly better than Reeves, moreso compared to Jones).
  20. Nors

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    Thornton cut - will be out of the league

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